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Tue 06/09/09


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     1. 12:14 AM - N8432 First Flight (Vincent Himsl)
     2. 04:34 AM - Re: N8432 First Flight (Larry Bowen)
     3. 07:22 AM - Re: N8432 First Flight (Chris Stone)
     4. 07:25 AM - Re: Filler for unwanted Rivet Holes (japhillipsga@aol.com)
     5. 09:06 AM - Re: N8432 First Flight (MLWynn@aol.com)
     6. 09:36 AM - Re: N8432 First Flight (Terry Watson)
     7. 02:31 PM - Re: N8432 First Flight (Weride)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:14:02 AM PST US
    From: Vincent Himsl <vshimsl@live.com>
    Subject: N8432 First Flight
    Van's RV8 Standard Kit SN: 80296 Started: March 1997 Finished: June 2009 Sunday afternoon=2C my RV8 became an airplane. While I prepare for ascenden cy into the 25% club. I will give you some details. Inspection: Was Saturday. The D.A.R from Spokane was very thorough=2C but after having close to 8 people look over my RV beforehand=2C he found little amiss. This is as it should be. First Flight: Was Sunday afternoon. Pilot was my good friend Mike Ensley who has decades of tail dragger experience=2C and over 100 hours in his rv7. The builder in me wanted to watch it fly more than the pilot in me wanted to be the first to fly it. I am also the classic one who builds too much and flies too lit tle. Mike began with some fast taxi tests then stopped at the end of the taxiway =2C did a runup and announced=2C "Experimental 8432 departing runway 23". Never thought I would hear that. Before I could worry about the wings falling off=2C he was 100 feet off the runway and climbing very fast. Everyone congratulated me but my focus was on that small airplane circling ever higher around the airport. I had a ha nd held=2C but didn't use it. I didn't want to interrupt the moment for eit her him nor I. Finally I mustered a "How's it going?". "Fine=2C I am havin g a ball". Mike landed=2C taxied over to applause from our small gathering of friends and family. He slid back the canopy=2C turned to me with the RV Grin and sa id=2C "You now have an airplane". Funny thing about that grin as I had it t oo. We returned home to pizza and beer=2C and to watch the jerky video my broth er made. He said if I wanted a pro I should have paid real money. Brothers are like that. Post First Flight: Mike said flight was smooth with no major issues. No perceived 'heavy wing' =2C and no indication I royally botched the wing mounting. Mike said my Tac h was off by a factor of two on my LightSpeed=2C and my elevator trim tab s witch was wired backwards. I said what do you mean? Push the up switch=2C t rim tab moves up=2C Press down=2C and the trim tab moves down...think about it. Mike said he didn't recall using the aileron trim=2C no need. He also menti oned that he had trouble getting the tail to stay down on landing. I told h im a single pilot and full fuel puts the CG pretty far forward on an RV8. Now on to pilot/builder rust removal=2C tail dragger and RV transition trai ning. I am also going to start learning how to actually use the instruments I installed. Thanks: I have a long list of people who were pivotal in my RV8 not winding up unde r a blue tarp in the back yard=2C and I have thanked them all. But this tha nk you goes to you=2C my builder's group. I lost count of the times I would get an answer from you often as fast as I wrote it. The countless encourag ements=2C news both good and bad=2C the wackiness=2C the sadness when we lo st someone=2C the primer wars=2C the untold 'not on my bird' declarations =2C and of course the traditional announcement we all hope to make=2C first flight. I am still a builder as I have the wheel pants remaining=2C but my moment o f ascendency is fast approaching and frankly=2C twelve years in the land of 'building experience' is a very long time. Good luck to all of you and (again a list tradition) 'Just Keep pounding th ose rivets! Vince_Himsl Idaho / Washington USA RV8 N8432 - Done! _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut orial_QuickAdd_062009


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    Time: 04:34:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: N8432 First Flight
    From: Larry Bowen <larry@bowenaero.com>
    Good job, Vince. Congrats! -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Vincent Himsl <vshimsl@live.com> wrote: > Van's RV8 Standard Kit > SN: 80296 > Started: March 1997 > Finished: June 2009 > > Sunday afternoon, my RV8 became an airplane. While I prepare for ascenden cy > into the 25% club. I will give you some details. > > *Inspection:* > Was Saturday. The D.A.R from Spokane was very thorough, but after having > close to 8 people look over my RV beforehand, he found little amiss. This is > as it should be. > > *First Flight:* > Was Sunday afternoon. Pilot was my good friend Mike Ensley who has decade s > of tail dragger experience, and over 100 hours in his rv7. The builder in me > wanted to watch it fly more than the pilot in me wanted to be the first t o > fly it. I am also the classic one who builds too much and flies too littl e. > > Mike began with some fast taxi tests then stopped at the end of the > taxiway, did a runup and announced, "Experimental 8432 departing runway 2 3". > > > Never thought I would hear that. > > Before I could worry about the wings falling off, he was 100 feet off the > runway and climbing very fast. Everyone congratulated me but my focus wa s > on that small airplane circling ever higher around the airport. I had a h and > held, but didn't use it. I didn't want to interrupt the moment for either > him nor I. Finally I mustered a "How's it going?". "Fine, I am having a > ball". > > Mike landed, taxied over to applause from our small gathering of friends > and family. He slid back the canopy, turned to me with the RV Grin and sa id, > "You now have an airplane". Funny thing about that grin as I had it too. > > We returned home to pizza and beer, and to watch the jerky video my broth er > made. He said if I wanted a pro I should have paid real money. Brothers a re > like that. > > *Post First Flight:* > Mike said flight was smooth with no major issues. No perceived 'heavy > wing', and no indication I royally botched the wing mounting. Mike said m y > Tach was off by a factor of two on my LightSpeed, and my elevator trim ta b > switch was wired backwards. I said what do you mean? Push the up switch, > trim tab moves up, Press down, and the trim tab moves down...think about it. > > > Mike said he didn't recall using the aileron trim, no need. He also > mentioned that he had trouble getting the tail to stay down on landing. I > told him a single pilot and full fuel puts the CG pretty far forward on a n > RV8. > > Now on to pilot/builder rust removal, tail dragger and RV transition > training. I am also going to start learning how to actually use the > instruments I installed. > > *Thanks:* > I have a long list of people who were pivotal in my RV8 not winding up > under a blue tarp in the back yard, and I have thanked them all. But this > thank you goes to you, my builder's group. I lost count of the times I wo uld > get an answer from you often as fast as I wrote it. The countless > encouragements, news both good and bad, the wackiness, the sadness when w e > lost someone, the primer wars, the untold 'not on my bird' declarations, and > of course the traditional announcement we all hope to make, first flight. > > I am still a builder as I have the wheel pants remaining, but my moment o f > ascendency is fast approaching and frankly, twelve years in the land of > 'building experience' is a very long time. > > Good luck to all of you and (again a list tradition) 'Just Keep pounding > those rivets! > > Vince_Himsl > Idaho / Washington USA > *RV8 N8432 - Done!* > > ------------------------------ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how.<http://w indowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Qu ickAdd_062009> > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 07:22:01 AM PST US
    From: Chris Stone <rv8iator@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: N8432 First Flight
    Vince, Well done! C. Stone Newberg, OR Van's RV8 Standard Kit SN: 80296 Started: March 1997 Finished: June 2009 Sunday afternoon, my RV8 became an airplane. While I prepare for ascendency into the 25% club. I will give you some details. Inspection: Was Saturday. The D.A.R from Spokane was very thorough, but after having close to 8 people look over my RV beforehand, he found little amiss. This is as it should be. First Flight: Was Sunday afternoon. Pilot was my good friend Mike Ensley who has decades of tail dragger experience, and over 100 hours in his rv7. The builder in me wanted to watch it fly more than the pilot in me wanted to be the first to fly it. I am also the classic one who builds too much and flies too little. Mike began with some fast taxi tests then stopped at the end of the taxiway, did a runup and announced, "Experimental 8432 departing runway 23". Never thought I would hear that. Before I could worry about the wings falling off, he was 100 feet off the runway and climbing very fast. Everyone congratulated me but my focus was on that small airplane circling ever higher around the airport. I had a hand held, but didn't use it. I didn't want to interrupt the moment for either him nor I. Finally I mustered a "How's it going?". "Fine, I am having a ball". Mike landed, taxied over to applause from our small gathering of friends and family. He slid back the canopy, turned to me with the RV Grin and said, "You now have an airplane". Funny thing about that grin as I had it too. We returned home to pizza and beer, and to watch the jerky video my brother made. He said if I wanted a pro I should have paid real money. Brothers are like that. Post First Flight: Mike said flight was smooth with no major issues. No perceived 'heavy wing', and no indication I royally botched the wing mounting. Mike said my Tach was off by a factor of two on my LightSpeed, and my elevator trim tab switch was wired backwards. I said what do you mean? Push the up switch, trim tab moves up, Press down, and the trim tab moves down...think about it. Mike said he didn't recall using the aileron trim, no need. He also mentioned that he had trouble getting the tail to stay down on landing. I told him a single pilot and full fuel puts the CG pretty far forward on an RV8. Now on to pilot/builder rust removal, tail dragger and RV transition training. I am also going to start learning how to actually use the instruments I installed. Thanks: I have a long list of people who were pivotal in my RV8 not winding up under a blue tarp in the back yard, and I have thanked them all. But this thank you goes to you, my builder's group. I lost count of the times I would get an answer from you often as fast as I wrote it. The countless encouragements, news both good and bad, the wackiness, the sadness when we lost someone, the primer wars, the untold 'not on my bird' declarations, and of course the traditional announcement we all hope to make, first flight. I am still a builder as I have the wheel pants remaining, but my moment of ascendency is fast approaching and frankly, twelve years in the land of 'building experience' is a very long time. Good luck to all of you and (again a list tradition) 'Just Keep pounding those rivets! Vince_Himsl Idaho / Washington USA RV8 N8432 - Done! Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail. See how.


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    Time: 07:25:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Filler for unwanted Rivet Holes
    From: japhillipsga@aol.com
    Garey, I used J B Weld on the?incorrect No.40 holes. Anything much bigger probably needs something else ?? I used JB on all my pull rivets center holes on all my RV-8a?tail fiberglass tips. Sands off smooth and won't fall out. I used JB Weld on my Zenith 601 XL I built 5 years ago on various oops holes and nary any have shown out. Best of luck, Bill of Georgia -----Original Message----- From: gareywittich2000@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 3:16 pm Subject: RV8-List: Filler for unwanted Rivet Holes Greetings: What material have you Builders used to fill in a couple of unwanted holes in the Skin, where a rivet can NOT be placed to plug the hole ???? Is Super-Fil a possible solution ???? Thanks,???Garey Wittich? Santa Monica, CA


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    Time: 09:06:56 AM PST US
    From: MLWynn@aol.com
    Subject: Re: N8432 First Flight
    Congratulations, Vince I am almost six years into the build. Your success helps us all stay focused and realize this is possible. Michael Wynn RV 8 Fiberglass San Ramon, CA In a message dated 6/9/2009 12:14:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, vshimsl@live.com writes: Van's RV8 Standard Kit SN: 80296 Started: March 1997 Finished: June 2009 Sunday afternoon, my RV8 became an airplane. While I prepare for ascendency into the 25% club. I will give you some details. Inspection: Was Saturday. The D.A.R from Spokane was very thorough, but after having close to 8 people look over my RV beforehand, he found little amiss. This is as it should be. First Flight: Was Sunday afternoon. Pilot was my good friend Mike Ensley who has decade s of tail dragger experience, and over 100 hours in his rv7. The builder in me wanted to watch it fly more than the pilot in me wanted to be the firs t to fly it. I am also the classic one who builds too much and flies too little. Mike began with some fast taxi tests then stopped at the end of the taxiway, did a runup and announced, "Experimental 8432 departing runway 23". Never thought I would hear that. Before I could worry about the wings falling off, he was 100 feet off the runway and climbing very fast. Everyone congratulated me but my focus wa s on that small airplane circling ever higher around the airport. I had a hand held, but didn't use it. I didn't want to interrupt the moment for either him nor I. Finally I mustered a "How's it going?". "Fine, I am having a ball". Mike landed, taxied over to applause from our small gathering of friends and family. He slid back the canopy, turned to me with the RV Grin and sa id, "You now have an airplane". Funny thing about that grin as I had it too. We returned home to pizza and beer, and to watch the jerky video my brother made. He said if I wanted a pro I should have paid real money. Br others are like that. Post First Flight: Mike said flight was smooth with no major issues. No perceived 'heavy wing', and no indication I royally botched the wing mounting. Mike said my Tach was off by a factor of two on my LightSpeed, and my elevator trim tab switch was wired backwards. I said what do you mean? Push the up switch, trim tab moves up, Press down, and the trim tab moves down...think about it. Mike said he didn't recall using the aileron trim, no need. He also mentioned that he had trouble getting the tail to stay down on landing. I told him a single pilot and full fuel puts the CG pretty far forward on an RV8 . Now on to pilot/builder rust removal, tail dragger and RV transition training. I am also going to start learning how to actually use the instr uments I installed. Thanks: I have a long list of people who were pivotal in my RV8 not winding up under a blue tarp in the back yard, and I have thanked them all. But this thank you goes to you, my builder's group. I lost count of the times I wo uld get an answer from you often as fast as I wrote it. The countless encouragements, news both good and bad, the wackiness, the sadness when we lost someone, the primer wars, the untold 'not on my bird' declarations, and of course the traditional announcement we all hope to make, first flight. I am still a builder as I have the wheel pants remaining, but my moment of ascendency is fast approaching and frankly, twelve years in the land of 'building experience' is a very long time. Good luck to all of you and (again a list tradition) 'Just Keep pounding those rivets! Vince_Himsl Idaho / Washington USA RV8 N8432 - Done! ____________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. _See how._ (http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_T utorial_QuickAd d_062009) ======================== ============ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List) ======================== ============ ======================== ============ (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ======================== ============ **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00 000004)


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    Time: 09:36:58 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: N8432 First Flight
    Vince, Congratulations on getting it airborne, and thanks for the great write-up. There is a bunch of motivation in there. Terry RV-8A Seattle 90% and holding From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Himsl Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:09 AM Subject: RV8-List: N8432 First Flight Van's RV8 Standard Kit SN: 80296 Started: March 1997 Finished: June 2009 Sunday afternoon, my RV8 became an airplane. While I prepare for ascendency into the 25% club. I will give you some details. Inspection: Was Saturday. The D.A.R from Spokane was very thorough, but after having close to 8 people look over my RV beforehand, he found little amiss. This is as it should be. First Flight: Was Sunday afternoon. Pilot was my good friend Mike Ensley who has decades of tail dragger experience, and over 100 hours in his rv7. The builder in me wanted to watch it fly more than the pilot in me wanted to be the first to fly it. I am also the classic one who builds too much and flies too little. Mike began with some fast taxi tests then stopped at the end of the taxiway, did a runup and announced, "Experimental 8432 departing runway 23". Never thought I would hear that. Before I could worry about the wings falling off, he was 100 feet off the runway and climbing very fast. Everyone congratulated me but my focus was on that small airplane circling ever higher around the airport. I had a hand held, but didn't use it. I didn't want to interrupt the moment for either him nor I. Finally I mustered a "How's it going?". "Fine, I am having a ball". Mike landed, taxied over to applause from our small gathering of friends and family. He slid back the canopy, turned to me with the RV Grin and said, "You now have an airplane". Funny thing about that grin as I had it too. We returned home to pizza and beer, and to watch the jerky video my brother made. He said if I wanted a pro I should have paid real money. Brothers are like that. Post First Flight: Mike said flight was smooth with no major issues. No perceived 'heavy wing', and no indication I royally botched the wing mounting. Mike said my Tach was off by a factor of two on my LightSpeed, and my elevator trim tab switch was wired backwards. I said what do you mean? Push the up switch, trim tab moves up, Press down, and the trim tab moves down...think about it. Mike said he didn't recall using the aileron trim, no need. He also mentioned that he had trouble getting the tail to stay down on landing. I told him a single pilot and full fuel puts the CG pretty far forward on an RV8. Now on to pilot/builder rust removal, tail dragger and RV transition training. I am also going to start learning how to actually use the instruments I installed. Thanks: I have a long list of people who were pivotal in my RV8 not winding up under a blue tarp in the back yard, and I have thanked them all. But this thank you goes to you, my builder's group. I lost count of the times I would get an answer from you often as fast as I wrote it. The countless encouragements, news both good and bad, the wackiness, the sadness when we lost someone, the primer wars, the untold 'not on my bird' declarations, and of course the traditional announcement we all hope to make, first flight. I am still a builder as I have the wheel pants remaining, but my moment of ascendency is fast approaching and frankly, twelve years in the land of 'building experience' is a very long time. Good luck to all of you and (again a list tradition) 'Just Keep pounding those rivets! Vince_Himsl Idaho / Washington USA RV8 N8432 - Done! _____ Insert movie times and more without leaving HotmailR. See how. <http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutor ial_QuickAdd_062009>


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    Time: 02:31:18 PM PST US
    From: "Weride" <weride@surewest.net>
    Subject: Re: N8432 First Flight
    Way to go Vince. Seems like every time I'm ready to throw in the towel someone finishes there project and I can read there excitement in reaching there goal and the satisfaction of there accomplishment.Your an inspiration to all of us still pounding away. Tom Davies N60TD (Reserved) 2 years 6 months....firewall forward ----- Original Message ----- From: Vincent Himsl To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:09 AM Subject: RV8-List: N8432 First Flight Van's RV8 Standard Kit SN: 80296 Started: March 1997 Finished: June 2009 Sunday afternoon, my RV8 became an airplane. While I prepare for ascendency into the 25% club. I will give you some details. Inspection: Was Saturday. The D.A.R from Spokane was very thorough, but after having close to 8 people look over my RV beforehand, he found little amiss. This is as it should be. First Flight: Was Sunday afternoon. Pilot was my good friend Mike Ensley who has decades of tail dragger experience, and over 100 hours in his rv7. The builder in me wanted to watch it fly more than the pilot in me wanted to be the first to fly it. I am also the classic one who builds too much and flies too little. Mike began with some fast taxi tests then stopped at the end of the taxiway, did a runup and announced, "Experimental 8432 departing runway 23". Never thought I would hear that. Before I could worry about the wings falling off, he was 100 feet off the runway and climbing very fast. Everyone congratulated me but my focus was on that small airplane circling ever higher around the airport. I had a hand held, but didn't use it. I didn't want to interrupt the moment for either him nor I. Finally I mustered a "How's it going?". "Fine, I am having a ball". Mike landed, taxied over to applause from our small gathering of friends and family. He slid back the canopy, turned to me with the RV Grin and said, "You now have an airplane". Funny thing about that grin as I had it too. We returned home to pizza and beer, and to watch the jerky video my brother made. He said if I wanted a pro I should have paid real money. Brothers are like that. Post First Flight: Mike said flight was smooth with no major issues. No perceived 'heavy wing', and no indication I royally botched the wing mounting. Mike said my Tach was off by a factor of two on my LightSpeed, and my elevator trim tab switch was wired backwards. I said what do you mean? Push the up switch, trim tab moves up, Press down, and the trim tab moves down...think about it. Mike said he didn't recall using the aileron trim, no need. He also mentioned that he had trouble getting the tail to stay down on landing. I told him a single pilot and full fuel puts the CG pretty far forward on an RV8. Now on to pilot/builder rust removal, tail dragger and RV transition training. I am also going to start learning how to actually use the instruments I installed. Thanks: I have a long list of people who were pivotal in my RV8 not winding up under a blue tarp in the back yard, and I have thanked them all. But this thank you goes to you, my builder's group. I lost count of the times I would get an answer from you often as fast as I wrote it. The countless encouragements, news both good and bad, the wackiness, the sadness when we lost someone, the primer wars, the untold 'not on my bird' declarations, and of course the traditional announcement we all hope to make, first flight. I am still a builder as I have the wheel pants remaining, but my moment of ascendency is fast approaching and frankly, twelve years in the land of 'building experience' is a very long time. Good luck to all of you and (again a list tradition) 'Just Keep pounding those rivets! Vince_Himsl Idaho / Washington USA RV8 N8432 - Done! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how.




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