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1. 06:43 AM - Re: RV8-Oil Door of Metal (japhillipsga@aol.com)
2. 11:26 AM - Re: Re: RV8-Oil Door of Metal (Tailgummer@aol.com)
3. 03:24 PM - Re: Flap Skins Too Short? (Speedy11@aol.com)
4. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: Flap Skins Too Short? (Matt Dralle)
5. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Flap Skins Too Short? (Richard Lundin)
6. 05:09 PM - Re: Flap Skins Too Short? (Matt Dralle)
7. 06:07 PM - Re: Flap Skins Too Short? (N38CW)
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-Oil Door of Metal |
Dear Builder Buddys, I have the cowls mounted around my beautiful 0-360 Lycoming
engine of which I'm very proud and I'm cutting in the oil door. I am using Eric's
hidden hinge product which is a fine piece of workmanship and Hartwell latches.
I need to know what thickness of metal has been successfully substituted
for the fiber glass door that came with the kit. The glass door is about? 60
thousands so I made a door out of 63. Too thick and hard to curve and warp.
Not pretty.? What thickness has been used before?? Thanks, Bill of Georgia
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1. 04:58 PM - Flap Skins Too Short? (Matt Dralle)
2. 05:25 PM - Re: Flap Skins Too Short? (scott bilinski)
3. 06:51 PM - Washington State Use Tax question (Vincent Himsl)
4. 07:12 PM - Re: Washington State Use Tax question (scott bilinski)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:58:52 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Flap Skins Too Short?
Dear Listers,
Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8. I was going
to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage skin per the
"View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80. But, it appears that the aft portion of
the flap skin was cut too short by
the QB builders. Note that the front part
seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just
perfectly.
But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to
continue the diagonal line. Since the fuselage side skin is curving up right
there, this will act like a giant air scoop. The flaps appear to be mounted in
the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the
ailerons.
The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
FWF Is Right Around The Corner!!
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 05:25:39 PM PST US
From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Flap Skins Too Short?
I got an Antivirus "error", what ever that means, when trying to open this
file......
Scott
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--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Flap Skins Too Short?
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Dear Listers,
Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8.- I was
going to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage sk
in per the "View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80.- But, it appears that the
aft portion of the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders.- Note
that the front part seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal
cut will clip just perfectly.- But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut
off about 2" too short to continue the diagonal line.- Since the fuselag
e side skin is curving up right there, this will act like a giant air scoop
.- The flaps appear to be mounted in the correct position, left/right as
they are the required 3/16" from the ailerons.
The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture
..
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
FWF Is Right Around The Corner!!=0A=0A=0A
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________
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Time: 06:51:51 PM PST US
From: Vincent Himsl <vshimsl@live.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Washington State Use Tax question
Hello=2C
I received this letter regarding use tax on my RV-8 requesting further docu
mentation.
In short=2C what is 'an insurance jacket indicating the value placed on the
aircraft'?
Thanks=2C
Vince H.
RV8 N8432 Flying (12 hrs.)
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________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 07:12:21 PM PST US
From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Washington State Use Tax question
Technically you need to pay tax on EVERYTHING. So if you bought product X o
n the internet your supposed to send the tax to the state.
http://dor.wa.gov/content/FindTaxesAndRates/UseTax/
Sounds to me they want proof that you paid tax for the plane and or parts.
If the plane is done, it may be too late to do the following.
Here in Kalifornia the best way to do it is to send tax in on the wing, fus
e, and tail kit because we all know a plane consists of a fuse, wing and ta
il right ;-).
Scott
--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Vincent Himsl <vshimsl@live.com> wrote:
From: Vincent Himsl <vshimsl@live.com>
Subject: RV8-List: Washington State Use Tax question
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568581660 {=0Afont-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}=0A=0AHello,
I received this letter regarding use tax on my RV-8 requesting further docu
mentation.
In short, what is 'an insurance jacket indicating the value placed on the a
ircraft'?
Thanks,
Vince H.
RV8 N8432 Flying (12 hrs.)
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-Oil Door of Metal |
The 0.063 is way to thick... Like you I tried it. Settled on 0.040.
After forming, I stiffened the inside with 1/4 in foam and vacuum bagged
a layer of carbon fiber. Then I riveted the hidden hinge. Came out quite
nice and stiff. Love the hidden hinge!
John D
RV8 N585JD
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Skins Too Short? |
Matt,
I'd like to respond, but I have no idea where your photos are.
Stan Sutterfield
Do not archive
Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8. I was
going
to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage skin per
the
"View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80. But, it appears that the aft portion
of
the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders. Note that the front
part
seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just
perfectly.
But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to
continue the diagonal line. Since the fuselage side skin is curving up
right
there, this will act like a giant air scoop. The flaps appear to be
mounted in
the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the
ailerons.
The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the
picture.
**************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas
for any occasion.
(http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000008)
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Skins Too Short? |
Hi Stan,
You can see the photo here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=60433
Matt
At 02:21 PM 7/20/2009 Monday, you wrote:
>Matt,
>I'd like to respond, but I have no idea where your photos are.
>Stan Sutterfield
>Do not archive
>Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8. I was going
>to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage skin per the
>"View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80. But, it appears that the aft portion of
>the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders. Note that the front part
>seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just perfectly.
>But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to
>continue the diagonal line. Since the fuselage side skin is curving up right
>there, this will act like a giant air scoop. The flaps appear to be mounted in
>the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the ailerons.
>
>The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture.
>
>
>
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>What's for dinner tonight? Find <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000008>quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Skins Too Short? |
I don't have an answer for you but had no trouble finding, or opening the photo.
Rick
--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: Flap Skins Too Short?
> To: rv8-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 6:28 PM
> Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
> Hi Stan,
>
> You can see the photo here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=60433
>
> Matt
>
>
> At 02:21 PM 7/20/2009 Monday, you wrote:
> >Matt,
> >I'd like to respond, but I have no idea where your
> photos are.
> >Stan Sutterfield
> >Do not archive
> >Please see the attached photo taken from the underside
> of my RV-8. I was going
> >to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of
> the fuselage skin per the
> >"View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80. But, it
> appears that the aft portion of
> >the flap skin was cut too short by the QB
> builders. Note that the front part
> >seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal
> cut will clip just perfectly.
> >But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2"
> too short to
> >continue the diagonal line. Since the fuselage
> side skin is curving up right
> >there, this will act like a giant air scoop. The
> flaps appear to be mounted in
> >the correct position, left/right as they are the
> required 3/16" from the ailerons.
> >
> >The left side is exactly the same as the right side as
> shown in the picture.
> >
> >
> >
> >----------
> >What's for dinner tonight? Find <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000008>quick
> and easy dinner ideas for any occasion.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Skins Too Short? |
Here's what I heard back from Van's today regarding the issue including the updated
picture:
> Simply rivet on a .040" extension (like the -4 & -6 builders had to) as shown
in the attached picture. You can bend it to fit any contour or overlap the flap
intersection fairing as you see fit. Use pop or solid flush rivets to attach.
Um, good thing its underneath... ;-)
Matt
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Skins Too Short? |
Matt,
That's not the solution I would have expected to hear. You are way ahead of me
right now. I am about to rivet my flaps together and I'm doing a standard kit.
When I saw your 1st pics, I thought the skins looked to be cut about the same
as mine. After seeing what Van's suggested you do, I went out to measure
my skins. From the first rivet out to the inboard edge of the skin, I measure
3-7/8". The last rivet toward the aft end of the flap measures about 2-7/8"
to the edge. Is this what yours measures? Just thinking out loud here, if you
splice an additional skin extension to the existing flap skin as you have it
drawn, wouldn't the shop head of the rivets contact the bottom of the fuselage
thereby keeping the flap skin from resting flat against the fuselage?
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Bill Settle
RV-8 Wings (Still)
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