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1. 06:24 AM - Re: Brake reservoirs (mkejrj@comcast.net)
2. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Yet another priming question (Jerry Grimmonpre)
3. 03:48 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Adding an antenna to improve on the ground reception? (Richard Martin)
4. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Adding an antenna to improve on the ground reception? (Jerry Grimmonpre)
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| Subject: | Re: Brake reservoirs |
Hi Richard,
=C2- I installed the pedal reservoirs on my RV 8 and would recommend them
to you. The advantages are an easier installation & a reduction in compexi
ty by eliminating feeder tubes,etc.
=C2- The only problem I noted was that it is very difficult to service th
e reservoirs ( add fluid ) in the 8. I solved this problem by cutting the b
aggage compartment floor above the pedals to provide access. The cut runs f
ore and aft and bisects the floor. I constructed a lap joint over the cut w
ith .032' Al. and rivited same to the starboard section of the floor. The n
ew lap joint is attached to the existing floor with 3 screws / nutplates .
The starboard floor area is easily removable and provides quick access.
=C2- One could argue that you could remove the entire baggage floor to ac
cess the area in question. In my installation I have a my Blue Mountain CPU
,with all it's associated wiring , mounted on the port side=C2- and it's
a bear to remove. On reflection I would recommend the access as defined ab
ove, even if the floor was open, since it is easily removed to access the s
ystem.
Dick Jordan
N888BZ
" Sticky Stuff "
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From: donkeyvet @ aol .com
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 1:23:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Brake reservoirs
Richard,
I put those reservoirs on my 8 and they were easy to install and problem fr
ee. I suppose the only issues that could arise would relate to where the fi
nal placement of the the pedals are in relation to the firewall. They could
possibly contact the firewall if the pedals were in the forwardmost positi
on and you placed the pedals leaning forward. Not the case on my plane and
I'm 6 ft tall. Filling the break lines from the bottom up into the reservoi
rs was a little tedious using a mirror to check the levels as the fluid fil
led the reservoir and getting all of the bubbles out, but presumably if the
system is leak free it will be the last time I do that for a while. I gues
s you could also overfill the reservoir to where fluid would spill out when
tilted. I guess I'm just trying to think of possible problems you could en
counter but actually I had no problems. All in all it wasn't too bad and th
ey have been trouble free. I'm glad I did it. It seems a little more elegan
t than all of those plastic tubes and connections.=C2-I don't remember wh
at I used to seal the threads. It might have been pro-seal or maybe teflon
tape. Hope that helps!
Dennis Flosi
El Paso , Texas
80 hours on Hobbs
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pike < jrpike @ btinternet .com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 5:00 pm
Subject: RV8-List: Brake reservoirs
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Has anyone fitted the A600 individual pedal mounted brake reservoirs from A
ircraft Spruce in place of the firewall mounted reservoir? If so, I'd love
to hear from you with any service experience to support the modification ap
proval process we have to go through here in the UK. Do they do the job as
intended? Are there any issues with them? How resolved? etc.=C2-
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Many thanks,=C2-
=C2-
Richard Pike=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Yet another priming question |
Dear Listers ...
"For What It's Worth Dept",
Two years ago my son zero timed a straight tail Cessna 172 built in 1956.
Cessna blew NO paint, on the inside of that critter, when built. The
protection Cessna relied on was Alclad. There was NO corrosion on the
inside of the empanage, wings or tail feathers. There was a bit of surface
corrosion on the cockpit side of the root rib and that was it. The airplane
had been owned by a group of United pilots who never hangared the airplane
for years.
Regards ... Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Speedy11@aol.com
To: rv8-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:13 PM
Subject: RV8-List: Re: Yet another priming question
OH - good fun - another primer war!
Chet, I used several primers. I sprayed primer on the entire inside of
the fuselage using several brands of self-etching primers. I sprayed the
fuselage using a spray gun and a gallon of self-etching primer. I used a
fresh air ventilator while doing it. Then I primed other parts using rattle
can self-etching primers. The SEM worked fine and is readily available. I
scuffed first with scotchbrite then cleaned the metal with Dupont 210
cleaner or with MEK. In one case I did not get good adhesion so I stripped
the parts and scotchbrited them again and reprimed. The second time held.
There is a lot of opinion about whether to prime and how much and what
type primer. So, I'm just telling you what I did. We'll know in 35 or 40
years whether or not my efforts were worthwhile. By that time, the internet
will have been replaced by mental telepathy - so send me your thoughts at
that time.
I recommend priming any unprimed parts with self etching primer after
cleaning with some type of metal cleaner to remove body oils and other
contaminants.
You may want to check with the paint shop you plan to use (or a
professional painter) to make sure the primer you use is compatible with the
planned top coat paint.
Good luck and thanks for starting the primer wars again. They're
entertaining.
Stan Sutterfield
www.rv-8a.net
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Adding an antenna to improve on the |
ground reception?
Don et all,
Ten years ago when I finished my RV8,,I experienced similar problems. After
tryiing various different fixes, I finally gave up and got out my wallet
and bought a Dorne & Margolin high quality antenna and mounted it on the
bottom of my RV8. Well I could not believe the difference in performance
both on the ground and in the air. In the air I can transmit and receive
more than 100 miles clearly. Also the drag co-efficient is less than 1
knot.
Good luck.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
----- Original Message -----
From: <jim-bean@att.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:55 PM
Subject: RV8-List: Re: AeroElectric-List: Adding an antenna to improve on
the ground reception?
>
>
> Problem: On the ground at KAWO (non-towered airport) I can't get Seattle
> Center (and my IFR clearance) because of my RV-8 belly-mounted comm
> antenna. (In a high wing trainer, this is not a problem.) I have a
> bubble canopy--can I add an antenna within my canopy to the existing
> belly
> antenna with
> a
> combiner/splitter to my comm receiver and achieve better reception
> on the
> ground without degrading my in the air reception/transmission?
> Ground plane problem with this setup? I can't easily place another
> antenna on
> the top
>
> fuselage. Suggestions?
>
> Don Schmiesing
> I have an antenna on my RV-8 slider which works pretty well. It is on the
> number
> 2 comm.I riveted an aluminum sheet to the aft end of the slider for a
> ground plane. The
> cablegoes to the front of the slider. The front of the slider is about as
> far in
> front of theshoulder harness bracket when closed as it is in back of it
> when open, so a loop
> from the
> slider to the bracket works well. The whip goes through the canopy with a
> rubber
> grommet.
> I have some pictures but they won't get through the list.
> Jim Bean
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: Adding an antenna to improve on the |
ground reception?
Dick,
Are you referring to the Dorne & Margolin vhf com antenna P/N DM C70-1 a
straight stick antenna?
Thanks ... Jerry
>
> Don et all,
> Ten years ago when I finished my RV8,,I experienced similar problems.
> After tryiing various different fixes, I finally gave up and got out my
> wallet and bought a Dorne & Margolin high quality antenna and mounted it
> on the bottom of my RV8. Well I could not believe the difference in
> performance both on the ground and in the air. In the air I can transmit
> and receive more than 100 miles clearly. Also the drag co-efficient is
> less than 1 knot.
> Good luck.
> Dick Martin
> RV8 N233M
> the fast one
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