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1. 07:34 AM - Re: Windscreen Fairing First Look! (Kopp, Kenneth G CDR HSM-70, N0 Exec Staff)
2. 09:46 AM - Re: Windscreen Fairing First Look! (Matt Dralle)
3. 10:20 AM - Re: Rainy Flying (Matt Dralle)
4. 10:50 AM - Re: Rainy Flying (scott bilinski)
5. 05:00 PM - Re: Windscreen Fairing First Look! (Al Grajek)
6. 05:16 PM - Re: Windscreen Fairing First Look! (Matt Dralle)
7. 05:34 PM - Re: Canopy Install (Part 1) (Matt Dralle)
8. 05:35 PM - Re: Canopy Install (Part 2) (Matt Dralle)
9. 05:42 PM - Canopy Lock (Matt Dralle)
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Subject: | Windscreen Fairing First Look! |
Hey Matt - the fairing looks great.
I'm assuming you lay it up with tape under so you can remove it and clean up both
the top and bottom edges then glue in place on the fuse and windscreen? Am
I correct?
Thanks,
Ken
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From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 22:52
Subject: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look!
Dear Listers,
I've been working hard on the front, fixed fairing around the windscreen this week.
Literally, I've been dreading this job more than ANY other on this project.
Tonight I sanded though the first layer of electrical tape and in one little
spot the second layer started to come up, so I had to pull all of the electrical
tape off and so I was able to check out the actual fiberglass fairing after
two days of sanding! Yahoo! It came out nearly perfect!! Not bad for creating
a fairing out of nothing! The process described in the manual really
does work amazingly well. I followed it to the tee up to this point.
Now I have to retape everything, add a layer of resin mixed with filler, then final
sand the whole thing. Should be pretty straight forward, but a couple of
days worth of work.
Almost done...
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
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Subject: | Windscreen Fairing First Look! |
Hi Ken,
No, per the instructions, the fairing is bonded right to the plexi and the top
of the fuselage. The multi-layer electrical tape trick gives you a really nice
edge on the plexi, and you sand the fuselage edge down to nothing for a feathered
edge. Using this technique, it would seem that you can come up with a much
thinner and lighter fairing. If it had to be removable, it would have to
be 4 or 5 times thicker particularly at the edges. I think.
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
At 07:33 AM 1/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote:
>Hey Matt - the fairing looks great.
>
>I'm assuming you lay it up with tape under so you can remove it and clean up both
the top and bottom edges then glue in place on the fuse and windscreen? Am
I correct?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ken
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
>Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 22:52
>Subject: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look!
>
>
>Dear Listers,
>
>I've been working hard on the front, fixed fairing around the windscreen this
week. Literally, I've been dreading this job more than ANY other on this project.
Tonight I sanded though the first layer of electrical tape and in one little
spot the second layer started to come up, so I had to pull all of the electrical
tape off and so I was able to check out the actual fiberglass fairing
after two days of sanding! Yahoo! It came out nearly perfect!! Not bad for
creating a fairing out of nothing! The process described in the manual really
does work amazingly well. I followed it to the tee up to this point.
>
>Now I have to retape everything, add a layer of resin mixed with filler, then
final sand the whole thing. Should be pretty straight forward, but a couple of
days worth of work.
>
>Almost done...
>
>Matt Dralle
>RV-8 #82880 N998RV
>http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
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Subject: | Re: Rainy Flying |
Where exactly under the floor?
Matt
RV-8
At 06:28 PM 1/30/2010 Saturday, you wrote:
>Only problem I have had with rain is the pooling inside on the floor. I hear this
is common just add a drain hole or two.
>
>Scott
>RV-8a
>
>
>From: "Speedy11@aol.com" <Speedy11@aol.com>
>To: rv8-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 5:01:27 PM
>Subject: RV8-List: Rainy Flying
>
>Hey RV8ers,
>Today I flew for the first time in rain. A number of issues arose.
> I had some pitting of the fiberglass parts
> I had some erosion of paint on the prop
> I had water blowing in along the canopy skirt
> After the flight I found water pooled in the bottom of the fuselage under
the floor
>Question: Has anyone had water accumulate inside the fuselage under the floors?
>If so, what was the source of the water? Did it invade at the main gear upper
leg fairings?
>Thanks,
>Stan Sutterfield
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Subject: | Re: Rainy Flying |
Not sure where it comes in, some say at the rear spar attach. I just put two 1/8
drain holes on the floor aft of the rear stick just in front of the bulk head
there.
Scott
RV-8a
________________________________
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 10:19:43 AM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Rainy Flying
Where exactly under the floor?
Matt
RV-8
At 06:28 PM 1/30/2010 Saturday, you wrote:
>Only problem I have had with rain is the pooling inside on the floor. I hear this
is common just add a drain hole or two.
>
>Scott
>RV-8a
>
>
>From: "Speedy11@aol.com" <Speedy11@aol.com>
>To: rv8-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 5:01:27 PM
>Subject: RV8-List: Rainy Flying
>
>Hey RV8ers,
>Today I flew for the first time in rain. A number of issues arose.
> I had some pitting of the fiberglass parts
> I had some erosion of paint on the prop
> I had water blowing in along the canopy skirt
> After the flight I found water pooled in the bottom of the fuselage under
the floor
>Question: Has anyone had water accumulate inside the fuselage under the floors?
>If so, what was the source of the water? Did it invade at the main gear upper
leg fairings?
>Thanks,
>Stan Sutterfield
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Subject: | Windscreen Fairing First Look! |
Looks really nice Matt:
Isint the fairing supposed to go OVER the canopy skirt though? They may hav
e changed it since my first 8. I am getting close to doing this as well. Go
t any good pics of the canopy fit up and cut?
Did you bond your canopy or screws?
Thanks
AL Grajek
> Date: Fri=2C 29 Jan 2010 19:51:40 -0800
> To: rv-list@matronics.com=3B rv8-list@matronics.com=3B rv7-list@matronics
.com
> From: dralle@matronics.com
> Subject: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look!
>
>
> Dear Listers=2C
>
> I've been working hard on the front=2C fixed fairing around the windscree
n this week. Literally=2C I've been dreading this job more than ANY other o
n this project. Tonight I sanded though the first layer of electrical tape
and in one little spot the second layer started to come up=2C so I had to p
ull all of the electrical tape off and so I was able to check out the actua
l fiberglass fairing after two days of sanding! Yahoo! It came out nearly p
erfect!! Not bad for creating a fairing out of nothing! The process describ
ed in the manual really does work amazingly well. I followed it to the tee
up to this point.
>
> Now I have to retape everything=2C add a layer of resin mixed with filler
=2C then final sand the whole thing. Should be pretty straight forward=2C b
ut a couple of days worth of work.
>
> Almost done...
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
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Subject: | Windscreen Fairing First Look! |
Thanks, Al!
I went a little different way on the windscreen. I fashioned a .032 metal bezel
up and over the top of the roll bar. Its about 2.5" wide. It worked out really
nice because I was able to powder coat the underside of it before I assembled
everything. Plus, I didn't have to get all of the sanding dust inside the
plane! So, the fiberglass fairing only has to go around the front of the windscreen
and then butt up against the metal fairing. Much easier. I'm not even
sure how I would have done a fiberglass lay up over the top of the roll bar.
The canopy skirts fit underneath the metal bezel that goes over the roll bar.
So does the first 3/4" of the canopy too.
As far as the sliding canopy, I opted to use AN rivnuts and #6 screws all the way
around. Worked good. Canopy replacement in the future should be pretty easy
- not that I want to, mind you. But, since I cracked the first one - just
as it was finished - I'm for anything that will ease the future removal/installation
since the screws made installing the second on much easier.
I've attached a few pictures for your viewing pleasure...
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
At 04:57 PM 1/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote:
>Looks really nice Matt:
>Isint the fairing supposed to go OVER the canopy skirt though? They may have changed
it since my first 8. I am getting close to doing this as well. Got any
good pics of the canopy fit up and cut?
>Did you bond your canopy or screws?
>Thanks
>AL Grajek
>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:51:40 -0800
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com; rv7-list@matronics.com
>> From: dralle@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look!
>>
>>
>> Dear Listers,
>>
>> I've been working hard on the front, fixed fairing around the windscreen this
week. Literally, I've been dreading this job more than ANY other on this project.
Tonight I sanded though the first layer of electrical tape and in one little
spot the second layer started to come up, so I had to pull all of the electrical
tape off and so I was able to check out the actual fiberglass fairing
after two days of sanding! Yahoo! It came out nearly perfect!! Not bad for creating
a fairing out of nothing! The process described in the manual really does
work amazingly well. I followed it to the tee up to this point.
>>
>> Now I have to retape everything, add a layer of resin mixed with filler, then
final sand the whole thing. Should be pretty straight forward, but a couple
of days worth of work.
>>
>> Almost done...
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
>> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
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Subject: | Canopy Install (Part 1) |
At 04:57 PM 1/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote:
>Looks really nice Matt:
>Isint the fairing supposed to go OVER the canopy skirt though? They may have changed
it since my first 8. I am getting close to doing this as well. Got any
good pics of the canopy fit up and cut?
>Did you bond your canopy or screws?
>Thanks
>AL Grajek
Here are a few (!) pictures of the canopy installation (second time around).
Matt
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Subject: | Canopy Install (Part 2) |
At 04:57 PM 1/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote:
>Looks really nice Matt:
>Isint the fairing supposed to go OVER the canopy skirt though? They may have changed
it since my first 8. I am getting close to doing this as well. Got any
good pics of the canopy fit up and cut?
>Did you bond your canopy or screws?
>Thanks
>AL Grajek
Here are a few (!) pictures of the canopy installation (second time around).
Matt
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I might have posted these before, but here are a few pictures of the canopy lock
installation I came up with for the RV-8. Works really well. The extended
barrel also makes a really nice handle for opening the canopy.
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
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