---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/31/10: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:34 AM - Re: Windscreen Fairing First Look! (Kopp, Kenneth G CDR HSM-70, N0 Exec Staff) 2. 09:46 AM - Re: Windscreen Fairing First Look! (Matt Dralle) 3. 10:20 AM - Re: Rainy Flying (Matt Dralle) 4. 10:50 AM - Re: Rainy Flying (scott bilinski) 5. 05:00 PM - Re: Windscreen Fairing First Look! (Al Grajek) 6. 05:16 PM - Re: Windscreen Fairing First Look! (Matt Dralle) 7. 05:34 PM - Re: Canopy Install (Part 1) (Matt Dralle) 8. 05:35 PM - Re: Canopy Install (Part 2) (Matt Dralle) 9. 05:42 PM - Canopy Lock (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:40 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look! From: "Kopp, Kenneth G CDR HSM-70, N0 Exec Staff" Hey Matt - the fairing looks great. I'm assuming you lay it up with tape under so you can remove it and clean up both the top and bottom edges then glue in place on the fuse and windscreen? Am I correct? Thanks, Ken -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 22:52 Subject: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look! Dear Listers, I've been working hard on the front, fixed fairing around the windscreen this week. Literally, I've been dreading this job more than ANY other on this project. Tonight I sanded though the first layer of electrical tape and in one little spot the second layer started to come up, so I had to pull all of the electrical tape off and so I was able to check out the actual fiberglass fairing after two days of sanding! Yahoo! It came out nearly perfect!! Not bad for creating a fairing out of nothing! The process described in the manual really does work amazingly well. I followed it to the tee up to this point. Now I have to retape everything, add a layer of resin mixed with filler, then final sand the whole thing. Should be pretty straight forward, but a couple of days worth of work. Almost done... Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:56 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RE: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look! Hi Ken, No, per the instructions, the fairing is bonded right to the plexi and the top of the fuselage. The multi-layer electrical tape trick gives you a really nice edge on the plexi, and you sand the fuselage edge down to nothing for a feathered edge. Using this technique, it would seem that you can come up with a much thinner and lighter fairing. If it had to be removable, it would have to be 4 or 5 times thicker particularly at the edges. I think. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog At 07:33 AM 1/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote: >Hey Matt - the fairing looks great. > >I'm assuming you lay it up with tape under so you can remove it and clean up both the top and bottom edges then glue in place on the fuse and windscreen? Am I correct? > >Thanks, > >Ken > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle >Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 22:52 >Subject: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look! > > >Dear Listers, > >I've been working hard on the front, fixed fairing around the windscreen this week. Literally, I've been dreading this job more than ANY other on this project. Tonight I sanded though the first layer of electrical tape and in one little spot the second layer started to come up, so I had to pull all of the electrical tape off and so I was able to check out the actual fiberglass fairing after two days of sanding! Yahoo! It came out nearly perfect!! Not bad for creating a fairing out of nothing! The process described in the manual really does work amazingly well. I followed it to the tee up to this point. > >Now I have to retape everything, add a layer of resin mixed with filler, then final sand the whole thing. Should be pretty straight forward, but a couple of days worth of work. > >Almost done... > >Matt Dralle >RV-8 #82880 N998RV >http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:16 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: RV8-List: Rainy Flying Where exactly under the floor? Matt RV-8 At 06:28 PM 1/30/2010 Saturday, you wrote: >Only problem I have had with rain is the pooling inside on the floor. I hear this is common just add a drain hole or two. > >Scott >RV-8a > > >From: "Speedy11@aol.com" >To: rv8-list@matronics.com >Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 5:01:27 PM >Subject: RV8-List: Rainy Flying > >Hey RV8ers, >Today I flew for the first time in rain. A number of issues arose. > I had some pitting of the fiberglass parts > I had some erosion of paint on the prop > I had water blowing in along the canopy skirt > After the flight I found water pooled in the bottom of the fuselage under the floor >Question: Has anyone had water accumulate inside the fuselage under the floors? >If so, what was the source of the water? Did it invade at the main gear upper leg fairings? >Thanks, >Stan Sutterfield ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:03 AM PST US From: scott bilinski Subject: Re: RV8-List: Rainy Flying Not sure where it comes in, some say at the rear spar attach. I just put two 1/8 drain holes on the floor aft of the rear stick just in front of the bulk head there. Scott RV-8a ________________________________ From: Matt Dralle Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 10:19:43 AM Subject: Re: RV8-List: Rainy Flying Where exactly under the floor? Matt RV-8 At 06:28 PM 1/30/2010 Saturday, you wrote: >Only problem I have had with rain is the pooling inside on the floor. I hear this is common just add a drain hole or two. > >Scott >RV-8a > > >From: "Speedy11@aol.com" >To: rv8-list@matronics.com >Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 5:01:27 PM >Subject: RV8-List: Rainy Flying > >Hey RV8ers, >Today I flew for the first time in rain. A number of issues arose. > I had some pitting of the fiberglass parts > I had some erosion of paint on the prop > I had water blowing in along the canopy skirt > After the flight I found water pooled in the bottom of the fuselage under the floor >Question: Has anyone had water accumulate inside the fuselage under the floors? >If so, what was the source of the water? Did it invade at the main gear upper leg fairings? >Thanks, >Stan Sutterfield ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:17 PM PST US From: Al Grajek Subject: RE: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look! Looks really nice Matt: Isint the fairing supposed to go OVER the canopy skirt though? They may hav e changed it since my first 8. I am getting close to doing this as well. Go t any good pics of the canopy fit up and cut? Did you bond your canopy or screws? Thanks AL Grajek > Date: Fri=2C 29 Jan 2010 19:51:40 -0800 > To: rv-list@matronics.com=3B rv8-list@matronics.com=3B rv7-list@matronics .com > From: dralle@matronics.com > Subject: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look! > > > Dear Listers=2C > > I've been working hard on the front=2C fixed fairing around the windscree n this week. Literally=2C I've been dreading this job more than ANY other o n this project. Tonight I sanded though the first layer of electrical tape and in one little spot the second layer started to come up=2C so I had to p ull all of the electrical tape off and so I was able to check out the actua l fiberglass fairing after two days of sanding! Yahoo! It came out nearly p erfect!! Not bad for creating a fairing out of nothing! The process describ ed in the manual really does work amazingly well. I followed it to the tee up to this point. > > Now I have to retape everything=2C add a layer of resin mixed with filler =2C then final sand the whole thing. Should be pretty straight forward=2C b ut a couple of days worth of work. > > Almost done... > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:21 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RE: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look! Thanks, Al! I went a little different way on the windscreen. I fashioned a .032 metal bezel up and over the top of the roll bar. Its about 2.5" wide. It worked out really nice because I was able to powder coat the underside of it before I assembled everything. Plus, I didn't have to get all of the sanding dust inside the plane! So, the fiberglass fairing only has to go around the front of the windscreen and then butt up against the metal fairing. Much easier. I'm not even sure how I would have done a fiberglass lay up over the top of the roll bar. The canopy skirts fit underneath the metal bezel that goes over the roll bar. So does the first 3/4" of the canopy too. As far as the sliding canopy, I opted to use AN rivnuts and #6 screws all the way around. Worked good. Canopy replacement in the future should be pretty easy - not that I want to, mind you. But, since I cracked the first one - just as it was finished - I'm for anything that will ease the future removal/installation since the screws made installing the second on much easier. I've attached a few pictures for your viewing pleasure... Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog At 04:57 PM 1/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote: >Looks really nice Matt: >Isint the fairing supposed to go OVER the canopy skirt though? They may have changed it since my first 8. I am getting close to doing this as well. Got any good pics of the canopy fit up and cut? >Did you bond your canopy or screws? >Thanks >AL Grajek > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:51:40 -0800 >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com; rv7-list@matronics.com >> From: dralle@matronics.com >> Subject: RV8-List: Windscreen Fairing First Look! >> >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> I've been working hard on the front, fixed fairing around the windscreen this week. Literally, I've been dreading this job more than ANY other on this project. Tonight I sanded though the first layer of electrical tape and in one little spot the second layer started to come up, so I had to pull all of the electrical tape off and so I was able to check out the actual fiberglass fairing after two days of sanding! Yahoo! It came out nearly perfect!! Not bad for creating a fairing out of nothing! The process described in the manual really does work amazingly well. I followed it to the tee up to this point. >> >> Now I have to retape everything, add a layer of resin mixed with filler, then final sand the whole thing. Should be pretty straight forward, but a couple of days worth of work. >> >> Almost done... >> >> Matt Dralle >> RV-8 #82880 N998RV >> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:51 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RE: RV8-List: Canopy Install (Part 1) At 04:57 PM 1/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote: >Looks really nice Matt: >Isint the fairing supposed to go OVER the canopy skirt though? They may have changed it since my first 8. I am getting close to doing this as well. Got any good pics of the canopy fit up and cut? >Did you bond your canopy or screws? >Thanks >AL Grajek Here are a few (!) pictures of the canopy installation (second time around). Matt ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:50 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RE: RV8-List: Canopy Install (Part 2) At 04:57 PM 1/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote: >Looks really nice Matt: >Isint the fairing supposed to go OVER the canopy skirt though? They may have changed it since my first 8. I am getting close to doing this as well. Got any good pics of the canopy fit up and cut? >Did you bond your canopy or screws? >Thanks >AL Grajek Here are a few (!) pictures of the canopy installation (second time around). Matt ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:56 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV8-List: Canopy Lock I might have posted these before, but here are a few pictures of the canopy lock installation I came up with for the RV-8. Works really well. The extended barrel also makes a really nice handle for opening the canopy. 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