---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/11/10: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:21 AM - Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel (With Corrected URLs) (Matt Dralle) 2. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel (Kopp, Kenneth G CDR HSM-70, N0 Exec Staff) 3. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel (With Corrected URLs) (japhillipsga@aol.com) 4. 12:29 PM - Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel (Matt Dralle) 5. 02:06 PM - Re: Winglets (glen matejcek) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:42 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel (With Corrected URLs) At 08:54 AM 2/10/2010 Wednesday, you wrote: >Dear Fellow RV-8 Builders & Owners, I just saw some photos of Matt Dralle's RV-8 windscreen and the metal bezel around the roll bar and top of windscreen is beautiful! Mounting the wind screen is two steps away for my construction and I want to that application for my bird. Looked like the presentation on a F104. Who knows how it's make? Do I need metal stretcher or what? What type and thickness of metal is used, Screw size and type ? Is there a template somewhere? I called Van's, talked to Ken, they got nothing. Hope to hear from you all soon as this is a much better looking way, Bill of Georgia RV-8a Wiring Hi Bill, Below are 17 entries from my RV-8 Builder's Log where I document the process of fabricating that metal bezel over the windscreen/rollbar on the RV-8. I can't imagine doing a fiberglass lay up over the top like that. What a mess it would make inside the cabin. The metal bezel is very strong. I used .032" for the main bezel plus another .032" stiffener at the top. I originally went with #6 screws, but the broke a tap off in the hole and had to go with #8. I'd probably do #8 again from the start just for the increased surface area. No shrinker/stretcher needed. Just a very accurate pattern as shown in the photos. Let me know if you have any questions. Metal Bezel For Windscreen/Rollbar: (12 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 12): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=93178&row=158 (2 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 2): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=94693&row=139 (3 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 3): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log'370&row=48 Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com Matt's RV-8 Construction Log Finishing Up... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:26 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV8-List: Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel From: "Kopp, Kenneth G CDR HSM-70, N0 Exec Staff" Matt - do you still have the final patterns you used? I'd be happy to buy them off you and pay for shipping. I love what you've done and believe this is the way to go. Nice work! Ken -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:14 Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel At 08:54 AM 2/10/2010 Wednesday, you wrote: >Dear Fellow RV-8 Builders & Owners, I just saw some photos of Matt Dralle's RV-8 windscreen and the metal bezel around the roll bar and top of windscreen is beautiful! Mounting the wind screen is two steps away for my construction and I want to that application for my bird. Looked like the presentation on a F104. Who knows how it's make? Do I need metal stretcher or what? What type and thickness of metal is used, Screw size and type ? Is there a template somewhere? I called Van's, talked to Ken, they got nothing. Hope to hear from you all soon as this is a much better looking way, Bill of Georgia RV-8a Wiring Hi Bill, Below are 17 entries from my RV-8 Builder's Log where I document the process of fabricating that metal bezel over the windscreen/rollbar on the RV-8. I can't imagine doing a fiberglass lay up over the top like that. What a mess it would make inside the cabin. The metal bezel is very strong. I used .032" for the main bezel plus another .032" stiffener at the top. I originally went with #6 screws, but the broke a tap off in the hole and had to go with #8. I'd probably do #8 again from the start just for the increased surface area. No shrinker/stretcher needed. Just a very accurate pattern as shown in the photos. Let me know if you have any questions. Metal Bezel For Windscreen/Rollbar: (12 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 12): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log=93178&row=158 (2 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 2): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log=94693&row=139 (3 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 3): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log'370&row=48 Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com Matt's RV-8 Construction Log Finishing Up... ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel (With Corrected URLs) From: japhillipsga@aol.com Matt, thanks for the great info. Why did you make it into two parts? Could you not cut it from one single piece of metal? Also, the reinforcement doubler you riveted at the top, how can the working ends of the rivets st ick out the bottom and they not interfere with the sliding canopy? Seems like they would push it down and scratch the plexiglass. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Matt Dralle Sent: Thu, Feb 11, 2010 12:19 pm Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel (With Corrected URLs) At 08:54 AM 2/10/2010 Wednesday, you wrote: Dear Fellow RV-8 Builders & Owners, I just saw some photos of Matt Dralle' s V-8 windscreen and the metal bezel around the roll bar and top of windscre en is eautiful! Mounting the wind screen is two steps away for my construction and I ant to that application for my bird. Looked like the presentation on a F10 4. ho knows how it's make? Do I need metal stretcher or what? What type and hickness of metal is used, Screw size and type ? Is there a template somew here? called Van's, talked to Ken, they got nothing. Hope to hear from you all soon s this is a much better looking way, Bill of Georgia RV-8a Wiring i Bill, Below are 17 entries from my RV-8 Builder's Log where I document the proce ss of abricating that metal bezel over the windscreen/rollbar on the RV-8. I ca n't magine doing a fiberglass lay up over the top like that. What a mess it would ake inside the cabin. The metal bezel is very strong. I used .032" for the ain bezel plus another .032" stiffener at the top. I originally went with #6 crews, but the broke a tap off in the hole and had to go with #8. I'd pro bably o #8 again from the start just for the increased surface area. No hrinker/stretcher needed. Just a very accurate pattern as shown in the ph otos. et me know if you have any questions. Metal Bezel For Windscreen/Rollbar: (12 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 12): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=63 8&category=2973&log=93178&row=158 2 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 2): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=63 8&category=2973&log=94693&row=139 3 Log Entries - Parts 1 - 3): http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=63 8&category=2973&log=96370&row=48 att Dralle V-8 #82880 N998RV ttp://www.mattsrv8.com Matt's RV-8 Construction Log inishing Up... -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The RV8-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:25 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8 Windscreen Metal Bezel At 11:15 AM 2/11/2010 Thursday, you wrote: >Matt, thanks for the great info. Why did you make it into two parts? Could you not cut it from one single piece of metal? Also, the reinforcement doubler you riveted at the top, how can the working ends of the rivets stick out the bottom and they not interfere with the sliding canopy? Seems like they would push it down and scratch the plexiglass. Bill Hi Bill, I only made it in two parts because the extra .032 I had laying around was only 48" wide which wasn't wide enough to go all the way around. I really wanted a single piece. Regarding the shop heads, you'll note from the pictures that I really squashed them down to minimize the amount that stuck down. They just clear the metal bezel I have on the canopy. That being said, there is a slight upward deflection of the windscreen bezel so there is more clearance there than you'd think. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com Matt's RV-8 Construction Log Finishing Up... ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:03 PM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV8-List: RE: Winglets HI Stan- I have a dusty recollection of some mod company tinkering with experimental winglets. I think they might be somewhere in Canada- sorry I don't recall more about them. glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.ne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv8-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV8-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv8-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv8-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.