---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/08/10: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:39 PM - Re: RV8-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/07/10 (japhillipsga@aol.com) 2. 05:48 PM - Re: RV8-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/07/10 (japhillipsga@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:06 PM PST US Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/07/10 From: japhillipsga@aol.com Thanks fellows for all the great vent input. I've mounted it under the pan el to the left, low enough to get some air on my face and left enough to keep it away from my knee. Good show!, Bill -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 2:58 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/07/10 * ======================== ======================== = Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== ======================== = Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the wo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted n HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes nd Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version f the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor uch as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=ht ml&Chapter 10-03-07&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=tx t&Chapter 10-03-07&Archive=RV8 ======================== ======================= EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== ======================= ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/07/10: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- oday's Message Index: --------------------- 1. 04:16 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (Michael Kraus) 2. 05:07 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (japhillipsga@aol.com) 3. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (Michael Kraus) 4. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (Carl Froehlich) 5. 02:53 PM - Re: RV8- Air Vents (Speedy11@aol.com) 6. 03:31 PM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (Timothy E. Cone) 7. 04:15 PM - Princeton Fuel Probes (Speedy11@AOL.com) _______________________________ Message 1 ______________________________ _______ ime: 04:16:31 AM PST US rom: Michael Kraus ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents _______________________________ Message 2 ______________________________ _______ ime: 05:07:42 AM PST US ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents rom: japhillipsga@aol.com Michael, I received your reply, but there was no text. My wife has been on the computer so she may have screwed it up somehow. Please send again, Th nks, Bill ----Original Message----- rom: Michael Kraus ent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 7:11 am ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents _______________________________ Message 3 ______________________________ _______ ime: 05:36:51 AM PST US rom: Michael Kraus ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents I had it that way on my original RV-4 panel. Cooled my chest and neck reat. When I redid my panel I moved them up in the panel. Now I can irect it on my fade, neck, or chest. I'm very happy with it this way! Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:04 AM, japhillipsga@aol.com wrote: > Michael, I received your reply, but there was no text. My wife has been on the computer so she may have screwed it up somehow. Please send again, Thanks, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kraus To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 7:11 am Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________ ________ ime: 06:04:40 AM PST US rom: "Carl Froehlich" ubject: RE: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents That is how I did it on the 8A. It is mounted on a small piece of BE=94 by =BE=94 ngle that attaches to the throttle quadrant side. I have it so the ent ngles up toward me. I=92m happy with the install. The panel real state is oo valuable to use space for a vent. arl Froehlich RV-8A (525 hrs) RV-10 (system install) rom: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aphillipsga@aol.com ent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:03 AM ubject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents n the RV-8 who has their front air vent valve below the panel instead f ut the face ? I'm not sure if I locate the vent below the panel I can et a ace full of air and most times that what needs cooling the most. Who as heir vent(s) set up under the panel that can say ? I've seen several anels so configured on the Van's air force "Show use your panel" thread o know some fellows have it that way. Hope to hear from someone, Bill ----Original Message----- rom: RV8-List Digest Server ent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 2:58 am ubject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/05/10 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive oday's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the wo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest ormatted n HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes nd Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version f the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor uch as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html Chapte 10-03-05&Archive=RV8> View=html&Chapter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt& hapter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8> View=txt&Chapter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8 ==================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ===================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/05/10: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- oday's Message Index: --------------------- et=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution _______________________________ Message 5 ______________________________ _______ ime: 02:53:07 PM PST US rom: Speedy11@aol.com ubject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents ill, put my front cockpit air vents down low below the panel. I have three ents. here are several reasons I mounted the vents low in the cockpit. 1. I don't like air (warm or cool) blowing directly in my face. 2. I wanted to be able to direct warm air for the rear cockpit along he side of the cockpit over the passengers knee so there would be no bstructions. Other builders reported that getting warm air to the RCP was ifficult. 3. I wanted to keep the main panel as uncluttered as possible. 4. I wanted to keep the ducting hidden. have three vents because the right side can be either heat or cool while he left side is cool only. The right side splits the air to two vents - ne of which can be directed on my feet. n practice, the setup has worked well for me. I can get enough cool air n the summer without it blowing directly in my face and heat if needed in he winter. I haven't tested the heat down the sidewall for the passenger et - although I can certainly direct the air to the RCP. couple of things to keep in mind about my setup though is that I used the lower portion of the front baggage for the main battery and I've routed iring, fuel lines, and air ducting through there. On the left side of th e ootwell, I added a matching cover on the left side which conceals the left ent ducting. f you care to see what I've done, you can view my web photos at http://www.rv-8a.net/2007.htm_ (http://www.rv-8a.net/2007.htm) and scrol l own to 8 Feb 07, 12 Mar 07, and 22 Apr 07. Then see the overall cockpit at http://www.rv-8a.net/2009APR.htm_ (http://www.rv-8a.net/2009APR.htm) and croll own to 22 Apr 09. Click on the photo to see a large version and you can pot the vents if you look carefully below the panel. ny questions - let me know. tan Sutterfield n the RV-8 who has their front air vent valve below the panel instead of ut the face ? I'm not sure if I locate the vent below the panel I can ge a face full of air and most times that what needs cooling the most. Who as their vent(s) set up under the panel that can say ? I've seen severa panels so configured on the Van's air force "Show use your panel" thread o I know some fellows have it that way. Hope to hear from someone, Bill _______________________________ Message 6 ______________________________ _______ ime: 03:31:12 PM PST US rom: "Timothy E. Cone" ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents Mine is out the bottom and I love it. Here's a pic ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:03 PM Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents On the RV-8 who has their front air vent valve below the panel nstead of out the face ? I'm not sure if I locate the vent below the anel I can get a face full of air and most times that what needs ooling the most. Who has their vent(s) set up under the panel that can ay ? I've seen several panels so configured on the Van's air force Show use your panel" thread so I know some fellows have it that way. ope to hear from someone, Bill -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server To: RV8-List Digest List Sent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 2:58 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/05/10 Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive oday's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the wo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest ormatted n HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes nd Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version f the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor uch as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: ttp://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& hapter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8 Text Version: ttp://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C apter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8 ==================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ===================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/05/10: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- oday's Message Index: --------------------- et=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution _______________________________ Message 7 ______________________________ _______ ime: 04:15:18 PM PST US rom: Speedy11@AOL.com ubject: RV8-List: Princeton Fuel Probes Matt, noticed on your log that you used the Princeton Fuel Probes. I have had ERY poor performance from them. I have calibrated them to the engine onitor 8 times and they are still inaccurate. I am contemplating removing hem, throwing them away, and replacing them with regular floats. The nor mal floats can not possibly be any more inaccurate. 've talked to both the Princeton guy and to the AFS engine monitors olks. No success. 'd be interested to hear if other builders have used the probes and found hem to be inaccurate. tan Sutterfield -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The RV8-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:35 PM PST US Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/07/10 From: japhillipsga@aol.com Thanks fellows for all the great vent input. I've mounted it under the pan el to the left, low enough to get some air on my face and left enough to keep it away from my knee. Good show!, Bill -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 2:58 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/07/10 * ======================== ======================== = Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== ======================== = Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the wo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted n HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes nd Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version f the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor uch as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=ht ml&Chapter 10-03-07&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=tx t&Chapter 10-03-07&Archive=RV8 ======================== ======================= EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== ======================= ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/07/10: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- oday's Message Index: --------------------- 1. 04:16 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (Michael Kraus) 2. 05:07 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (japhillipsga@aol.com) 3. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (Michael Kraus) 4. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (Carl Froehlich) 5. 02:53 PM - Re: RV8- Air Vents (Speedy11@aol.com) 6. 03:31 PM - Re: Re: RV8- Air Vents (Timothy E. Cone) 7. 04:15 PM - Princeton Fuel Probes (Speedy11@AOL.com) _______________________________ Message 1 ______________________________ _______ ime: 04:16:31 AM PST US rom: Michael Kraus ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents _______________________________ Message 2 ______________________________ _______ ime: 05:07:42 AM PST US ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents rom: japhillipsga@aol.com Michael, I received your reply, but there was no text. My wife has been on the computer so she may have screwed it up somehow. Please send again, Th nks, Bill ----Original Message----- rom: Michael Kraus ent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 7:11 am ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents _______________________________ Message 3 ______________________________ _______ ime: 05:36:51 AM PST US rom: Michael Kraus ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents I had it that way on my original RV-4 panel. Cooled my chest and neck reat. When I redid my panel I moved them up in the panel. Now I can irect it on my fade, neck, or chest. I'm very happy with it this way! Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:04 AM, japhillipsga@aol.com wrote: > Michael, I received your reply, but there was no text. My wife has been on the computer so she may have screwed it up somehow. Please send again, Thanks, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kraus To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 7:11 am Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________ ________ ime: 06:04:40 AM PST US rom: "Carl Froehlich" ubject: RE: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents That is how I did it on the 8A. It is mounted on a small piece of BE=94 by =BE=94 ngle that attaches to the throttle quadrant side. I have it so the ent ngles up toward me. I=92m happy with the install. The panel real state is oo valuable to use space for a vent. arl Froehlich RV-8A (525 hrs) RV-10 (system install) rom: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aphillipsga@aol.com ent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:03 AM ubject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents n the RV-8 who has their front air vent valve below the panel instead f ut the face ? I'm not sure if I locate the vent below the panel I can et a ace full of air and most times that what needs cooling the most. Who as heir vent(s) set up under the panel that can say ? I've seen several anels so configured on the Van's air force "Show use your panel" thread o know some fellows have it that way. Hope to hear from someone, Bill ----Original Message----- rom: RV8-List Digest Server ent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 2:58 am ubject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/05/10 * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive oday's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the wo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest ormatted n HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes nd Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version f the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor uch as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html Chapte 10-03-05&Archive=RV8> View=html&Chapter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt& hapter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8> View=txt&Chapter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8 ==================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ===================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/05/10: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- oday's Message Index: --------------------- et=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution _______________________________ Message 5 ______________________________ _______ ime: 02:53:07 PM PST US rom: Speedy11@aol.com ubject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents ill, put my front cockpit air vents down low below the panel. I have three ents. here are several reasons I mounted the vents low in the cockpit. 1. I don't like air (warm or cool) blowing directly in my face. 2. I wanted to be able to direct warm air for the rear cockpit along he side of the cockpit over the passengers knee so there would be no bstructions. Other builders reported that getting warm air to the RCP was ifficult. 3. I wanted to keep the main panel as uncluttered as possible. 4. I wanted to keep the ducting hidden. have three vents because the right side can be either heat or cool while he left side is cool only. The right side splits the air to two vents - ne of which can be directed on my feet. n practice, the setup has worked well for me. I can get enough cool air n the summer without it blowing directly in my face and heat if needed in he winter. I haven't tested the heat down the sidewall for the passenger et - although I can certainly direct the air to the RCP. couple of things to keep in mind about my setup though is that I used the lower portion of the front baggage for the main battery and I've routed iring, fuel lines, and air ducting through there. On the left side of th e ootwell, I added a matching cover on the left side which conceals the left ent ducting. f you care to see what I've done, you can view my web photos at http://www.rv-8a.net/2007.htm_ (http://www.rv-8a.net/2007.htm) and scrol l own to 8 Feb 07, 12 Mar 07, and 22 Apr 07. Then see the overall cockpit at http://www.rv-8a.net/2009APR.htm_ (http://www.rv-8a.net/2009APR.htm) and croll own to 22 Apr 09. Click on the photo to see a large version and you can pot the vents if you look carefully below the panel. ny questions - let me know. tan Sutterfield n the RV-8 who has their front air vent valve below the panel instead of ut the face ? I'm not sure if I locate the vent below the panel I can ge a face full of air and most times that what needs cooling the most. Who as their vent(s) set up under the panel that can say ? I've seen severa panels so configured on the Van's air force "Show use your panel" thread o I know some fellows have it that way. Hope to hear from someone, Bill _______________________________ Message 6 ______________________________ _______ ime: 03:31:12 PM PST US rom: "Timothy E. Cone" ubject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents Mine is out the bottom and I love it. Here's a pic ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com To: rv8-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:03 PM Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Air Vents On the RV-8 who has their front air vent valve below the panel nstead of out the face ? I'm not sure if I locate the vent below the anel I can get a face full of air and most times that what needs ooling the most. Who has their vent(s) set up under the panel that can ay ? I've seen several panels so configured on the Van's air force Show use your panel" thread so I know some fellows have it that way. ope to hear from someone, Bill -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server To: RV8-List Digest List Sent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 2:58 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/05/10 Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive oday's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the wo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest ormatted n HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes nd Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version f the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor uch as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: ttp://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& hapter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8 Text Version: ttp://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C apter 10-03-05&Archive=RV8 ==================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ===================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/05/10: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- oday's Message Index: --------------------- et=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution _______________________________ Message 7 ______________________________ _______ ime: 04:15:18 PM PST US rom: Speedy11@AOL.com ubject: RV8-List: Princeton Fuel Probes Matt, noticed on your log that you used the Princeton Fuel Probes. I have had ERY poor performance from them. I have calibrated them to the engine onitor 8 times and they are still inaccurate. I am contemplating removing hem, throwing them away, and replacing them with regular floats. The nor mal floats can not possibly be any more inaccurate. 've talked to both the Princeton guy and to the AFS engine monitors olks. No success. 'd be interested to hear if other builders have used the probes and found hem to be inaccurate. tan Sutterfield -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The RV8-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv8-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV8-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv8-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv8-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.