---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/22/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:03 AM - Re: Re: RV Speeds (Tracy) 2. 04:23 PM - Re: RV Speeds (Speedy11@aol.com) 3. 05:38 PM - Floor Covering (cs@charlesstringham.com) 4. 07:42 PM - Re: Floor Covering (Michael Kraus) 5. 09:01 PM - Re: Floor Covering (cs@charlesstringham.com) 6. 09:29 PM - Re: Floor Covering (William L. Paulin) 7. 10:14 PM - Re: Floor Covering (Terry Watson) 8. 11:36 PM - Re: Floor Covering (William L. Paulin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV Speeds From: Tracy Mine aren't quite that good but in the same ballpark. Typical cruise conditions are 12,500 ft, 172 mph, 1965 RPM (at the prop) burning 6.5 gph. That's with one of those presumably gas hungry Mazda rotary engines. Tracy Crook On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:55 PM, wrote: > > Bill, > Thanks for your input. Each data point is valuable and informative. > 160 KTAS is impressive for 1950 RPM. I'll try the same parameters next > time I go flying and report back. > Stan Sutterfield > > I've got a WW 200RV, RV-8, Superior Airparts IO-360 w/ Ryton exploding > sump, lightspeed II ignition and I generally run 160 knots TAS 10,000 > feet, 6.5 gph, WOT, LOP, 1950 RPM. Everything else about the airframe > is pretty much standard. I'm very confident in that 6.5 GPH @ 160 > knots TAS figure. I'm not as confident in other power setting since I > generally just run in the econo cruise @ 160. As the fuel burns off I > generally pick up 2-3 knots from the reduced weight. > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:59 PM PST US From: Speedy11@aol.com Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV Speeds Well, some new numbers today. I filed IFR to FL200 and then continued the climb to FL240. It took awhile to get up there, but I made it. As it turns out, FL200 is the more comfortable (for aircraft handling) and fuel efficient altitude. FL200 WOT (13.8") 2400 RPM about 6.3 GPH IAS - 113K TAS - 160K Peak EGT OAT - 40F FL240 WOT (11.5") 2300 RPM about 6.3 GPH IAS - 92K TAS - 139K 40 LOP OAT - 28F CHTs and Oil Temp were no problem at all altitudes. I didn't have time to do a 10K' run to compare with Bill's numbers, but I'll try that in the AM if possible. Stan Sutterfield ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:05 PM PST US From: "cs@charlesstringham.com" Subject: RV8-List: Floor Covering Greetings Fellow RVers, Quick Build RV-8 wings and fuselage are coming next week, so I'm finishing up on the hangar. I got this new Rustoleum Epoxyshield garage floor 2-part epoxy. The contractor used a cure/sealer on the concrete slab. Instructions from Rustoleum say the product can't be applied over a sealer--must be to bare concrete. The contractor said use muriatic acid to remove the cure/sealer. Rustoleum instructions say not to use muriatic acid, instead to use the citric acid provided with the kit. But the citric acid doesn't seem to remove the cure/sealer. I will probably call Rustoleum tomorrow, but does anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Chet ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: Floor Covering From: Michael Kraus I rented a floor surface grinder/concrete shaver and ran it all over the floor of my hangar prior to paint. Mine too was sealed and it seems to have worked great. 3 years do far and no paint lifting. -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:34 PM, "cs@charlesstringham.com" wrote: > > Greetings Fellow RVers, > Quick Build RV-8 wings and fuselage are coming next week, so I'm finishing up on the hangar. I got this new Rustoleum Epoxyshield garage floor 2-part epoxy. The contractor used a cure/sealer on the concrete slab. Instructions from Rustoleum say the product can't be applied over a sealer--must be to bare concrete. The contractor said use muriatic acid to remove the cure/sealer. Rustoleum instructions say not to use muriatic acid, instead to use the citric acid provided with the kit. But the citric acid doesn't seem to remove the cure/sealer. I will probably call Rustoleum tomorrow, but does anyone have suggestions? > Thanks, Chet > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:55 PM PST US From: "cs@charlesstringham.com" Subject: Re: RV8-List: Floor Covering Cool, thanks Mike. -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Kraus" [n223rv@wolflakeairport.net] Subject: Re: RV8-List: Floor Covering I rented a floor surface grinder/concrete shaver and ran it all over the floor of my hangar prior to paint. Mine too was sealed and it seems to have worked great. 3 years do far and no paint lifting. -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:34 PM, "cs@charlesstringham.com" wrote: > > Greetings Fellow RVers, > Quick Build RV-8 wings and fuselage are coming next week, so I'm finishing up on the hangar. I got this new Rustoleum Epoxyshield garage floor 2-part epoxy. The contractor used a cure/sealer on the concrete slab. Instructions from Rustoleum say the product can't be applied over a sealer--must be to bare concrete. The contractor said use muriatic acid to remove the cure/sealer. Rustoleum instructions say not to use muriatic acid, instead to use the citric acid provided with the kit. But the citric acid doesn't seem to remove the cure/sealer. I will probably call Rustoleum tomorrow, but does anyone have suggestions? > Thanks, Chet > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: Floor Covering From: "William L. Paulin" Yes, Do not use Rustoleum. It will chip and peal and come off from oil or fuel or even just time. I know, I tried it in a garage. Hire a professional you find on line to put on an industrial grade product. If you search on line, you will find pilot / hangar horror stories as I did after my first try. My second try with a pro worked fine. Bill On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:34 PM, cs@charlesstringham.com wrote: Greetings Fellow RVers, Quick Build RV-8 wings and fuselage are coming next week, so I'm finishing up on the hangar. I got this new Rustoleum Epoxyshield garage floor 2-part epoxy. The contractor used a cure/sealer on the concrete slab. Instructions from Rustoleum say the product can't be applied over a sealer--must be to bare concrete. The contractor said use muriatic acid to remove the cure/sealer. Rustoleum instructions say not to use muriatic acid, instead to use the citric acid provided with the kit. But the citric acid doesn't seem to remove the cure/sealer. I will probably call Rustoleum tomorrow, but does anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Chet ********************************** William L. Paulin, Ph.D. 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@usa.net ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:13 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: RV8-List: Floor Covering Aviation Consumer did a comparison and report on hanger (garage) floor paint a year or two ago. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William L. Paulin Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:28 PM Subject: Re: RV8-List: Floor Covering Yes, Do not use Rustoleum. It will chip and peal and come off from oil or fuel or even just time. I know, I tried it in a garage. Hire a professional you find on line to put on an industrial grade product. If you search on line, you will find pilot / hangar horror stories as I did after my first try. My second try with a pro worked fine. Bill On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:34 PM, cs@charlesstringham.com wrote: Greetings Fellow RVers, Quick Build RV-8 wings and fuselage are coming next week, so I'm finishing up on the hangar. I got this new Rustoleum Epoxyshield garage floor 2-part epoxy. The contractor used a cure/sealer on the concrete slab. Instructions from Rustoleum say the product can't be applied over a sealer--must be to bare concrete. The contractor said use muriatic acid to remove the cure/sealer. Rustoleum instructions say not to use muriatic acid, instead to use the citric acid provided with the kit. But the citric acid doesn't seem to remove the cure/sealer. I will probably call Rustoleum tomorrow, but does anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Chet ********************************** William L. Paulin, Ph.D. 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@usa.net ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: Floor Covering From: "William L. Paulin" yes , thanks. That is where I got sent to the pros. bill On Aug 22, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Terry Watson wrote: Aviation Consumer did a comparison and report on hanger (garage) floor paint a year or two ago. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William L. Paulin Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:28 PM Subject: Re: RV8-List: Floor Covering Yes, Do not use Rustoleum. It will chip and peal and come off from oil or fuel or even just time. I know, I tried it in a garage. Hire a professional you find on line to put on an industrial grade product. If you search on line, you will find pilot / hangar horror stories as I did after my first try. My second try with a pro worked fine. Bill On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:34 PM, cs@charlesstringham.com wrote: Greetings Fellow RVers, Quick Build RV-8 wings and fuselage are coming next week, so I'm finishing up on the hangar. I got this new Rustoleum Epoxyshield garage floor 2-part epoxy. The contractor used a cure/sealer on the concrete slab. Instructions from Rustoleum say the product can't be applied over a sealer--must be to bare concrete. The contractor said use muriatic acid to remove the cure/sealer. Rustoleum instructions say not to use muriatic acid, instead to use the citric acid provided with the kit. But the citric acid doesn't seem to remove the cure/sealer. I will probably call Rustoleum tomorrow, but does anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Chet ********************************** William L. Paulin, Ph.D. 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@usa.net *********************************** William & Sandra Paulin 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Bill Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@usa.net Sandy Cell +1 858 349 1729 Office +1 928 443 7739 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv8-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV8-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv8-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv8-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.