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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/03/10 |
Stan,
I did my gear at the same place you are now. Be very careful aligning up
everything and then go ahead.When you have everything as you want it, take
it back off and store it on the shelf until you are thru inside the
fuselage. Then just before you mount the engine put it back on and torque
it down. Have fun!
John L
RV8 99% complete
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> 1. 10:57 AM - Gear Installation (Stan Loer)
> 2. 11:42 AM - Re: Gear Installation (cs@charlesstringham.com)
> 3. 02:59 PM - Re: Gear Installation (Paul Rice)
> 4. 06:03 PM - Re: Gear Installation (Matt Dralle)
> 5. 06:31 PM - Re: Re: Gear Installation (james d winkler)
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> ________________________________ Message 1
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> Time: 10:57:40 AM PST US
> From: "Stan Loer" <stazel@cpros.com>
> Subject: RV8-List: Gear Installation
>
> I'm about ready to invert my 8 QB fuselage and start the landing gear
> installation. Is there anything I need to know that is not covered in
> the instructions? It's such a critical installlation that I want to be
> as accurate as humanly possible. I'm using Van's stock gear legs. Any
> advice/tips/cautions/etc. greatly appreciated.
>
> Stan Loer
>
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> Time: 11:42:33 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Gear Installation
> From: cs@charlesstringham.com
>
> Hi Stan,
> Thanks for the question. I am at the same place in th
> e process, and I too look forward to some wisdom from
> the others.
> Chet
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Stan Loer" <stazel@cpros.com>
> Sender: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
> Subject: RV8-List: Gear Installation
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> Time: 02:59:00 PM PST US
> From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com>
> Subject: RE: RV8-List: Gear Installation
>
>
> On my 8=2C I spent a long time making sure that the gear was square to the
> center line of the fuselage and that the and only needed half a degree of s
> him to make my axles perfectly straight. In making it so close on the init
> ial install=2C the two outside bolts ended up not being in the center of t
> he gear leg tower (slightly to the rear)=2C and consequently=2C it is diffi
> cult to get a wrench on the rear most outside nuts with out removing some o
> f the smaller nuts and bolts of the tower. My advise is to square the legs
> to the fuselage and centered in the tower=2C then just use a couple more s
> hims at the axle to make them spot on.
>
> Good luck=2C
>
> Paul
> 800 plus landings on original vans tires and still going
>
>
> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Gear Installation
> From: cs@charlesstringham.com
>
>
> Hi Stan=2C
> Thanks for the question. I am at the same place in the process=2C and I too
> look forward to some wisdom from the others.
> Chet
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>
> From: "Stan Loer" <stazel@cpros.com>
> Sender: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
> ReplyTo: rv8-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV8-List: Gear Installation
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>
> I'm about ready to invert = my 8 QB fuselage and start the landing g
> ear installation. Is there = anything I need to know that is not co
> vered in the instructions? It's such a = critical installlation tha
> t I want to be as accurate as humanly possible. = I'm using Van's s
> tock gear legs. Any advice/tips/cautions/etc. greatly appreciated.
>
> Stan Loer
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> Time: 06:03:06 PM PST US
> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV8-List: Re: Gear Installation
>
>
> The plans say to leave the gear off as long as possible and they aren't
> kidding.
> Resist the urge to install them just because you want to see how cool its
> going
> to look on the gear. I left my -8 fuse on the saw horse until just before
> I started the engine installation. At that point, all of the wiring was
> done,
> the interior was done, and the canopy was done. It sits up high on the
> gear
> and makes it a lot more difficult to work on. And I'm a tall dude.
>
> The only thing I would have done differently would have been to REMOVE the
> instrument
> panel and instruments before I started the gear leg installation process.
> It would have be 100x easier to get to the nuts in the gear towers without
> the panel in place.
>
> Speaking of gear, if you haven't ordered a set of Grove Gear for the RV-8,
> then
> do it! Delete the Steel gear from your Van's Kit (or return them), and get
> yourself
> a set of the all aluminum Grove gear for the RV-8. They are a work of
> art and are over 10 lbs LIGHTER than the stock steel gear. Even better,
> they
> are already airfoil shaped, so you don't have to mess with the fiberglass
> fairings.
> Win win win. Cost is the only drawback. But, they are well worth the
> investment.
>
> I documented the installation process pretty well on my RV-8 Builders Log:
>
>
> Grove RV-8 Aluminum Gear
> ------------------------
>
>
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=67042&row=447
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> http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=67068&row=420
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>
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=67069&row=419
>
>
> RV-8 Landing Gear Installation
> ------------------------------
>
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> http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=0&log=67851&row=852
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> RV-8 Landing Gear Alignment
> --------------------------
>
>
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=0&log015&row=842
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> http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=0&log016&row=841
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>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 90+ Hours TTSN - Enjoying Every Minute...
>
>
> At 11:40 AM 9/3/2010 Friday, you wrote:
> >Hi Stan,Thanks for the question. I am at the same place in the process,
> and I
> too look forward to some wisdom from the others. Chet
> >
> >From: "Stan Loer" <stazel@cpros.com>
> >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:54:52 -0700
> >Subject: RV8-List: Gear Installation
> >I'm about ready to invert = my 8 QB fuselage and start the landing gear
> installation.
> Is there = anything I need to know that is not covered in the
> instructions?
> It's such a = critical installlation that I want to be as accurate
> as humanly possible. = I'm using Van's stock gear legs. Any
> advice/tips/cautions/etc.
> greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Stan Loer
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
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> Time: 06:31:38 PM PST US
> From: "james d winkler" <madman266@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: Gear Installation
>
>
> i put grove gr, wheels. and tail wheel on first step out of the quick build
> box . i have no regrets..j .. rv-8 160 hrs
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Installation |
Stan,
Just follow the instructions and you'll be fine. Make sure you have a variety
of sockets and extensions on hand. I seem to remember grinding down one of the
socket heads and running an extension w/universal socket adapter, out of the
gear boxes. My blog might have a pic or two to help. Look under the landing
gear label.
-JT
www.jtsrv8projectblogspot.com :D
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Regards, JT
RV8 N110JT
FWF
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| Subject: | Gear Installation |
Stan,
This is a suggestion for after you have the legs positioned and drilled.
Van recommends you re-torque the gear leg bolts at 10 hours, 50 hours and
every annual after that. Getting into the gear leg towers of a completed -8
and getting a socket on the gear leg nuts is a royal pain. Go to the forums
on Vansairforce and search RV-8 torque gear leg bolts for a discussion of
the problems. There are several suggestions for making this easier. I used
the "cut a socket shorter and grind the side off it" method, but it is still
a lot of work and lying in an uncomfortable position. The suggestion I like
best is to buy longer bolts and add washers under the nut to raise it out of
the channel in which it sits. I think that would help getting access to the
nuts.
Also take a look at the pilot hole Van has in the fuselage marking the
location of the vent line entry into the tower from the tank. It is
positioned exactly over the aft nut/bolt and that means the line has to be
removed to get at that nut (at least I had to remove it). Move the vent line
entry to some other location if you can.
I'd also recommend opening up the lightening holes and replacing the removed
piece with a cover.
John Ciolino
RV-8
N894Y
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan Loer
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:55 PM
Subject: RV8-List: Gear Installation
I'm about ready to invert my 8 QB fuselage and start the landing gear
installation. Is there anything I need to know that is not covered in the
instructions? It's such a critical installlation that I want to be as
accurate as humanly possible. I'm using Van's stock gear legs. Any
advice/tips/cautions/etc. greatly appreciated.
Stan Loer
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