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Mon 11/01/10


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     0. 12:16 AM - PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 01:18 AM - AW: Canopy Skirt Buzz... (Stephan Servatius)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:16:24 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff!
    Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages including: * Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com * Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com * Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search * Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include: * Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com * Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com * Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-8 Builder and Flyer


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    Time: 01:18:51 AM PST US
    From: "Stephan Servatius" <romeo.victor@t-online.de>
    Subject: Canopy Skirt Buzz...
    Use felt, it doesn't hurt the painting and slips over the surface. -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Vince Himsl Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010 19:43 An: rv8-list@matronics.com Betreff: RE: RV8-List: Canopy Skirt Buzz... I use the more expensive p-channel door seal from Home Depot, meaning it is not. Trick is, I heat the tape glue with a heat gun before applying it. Same for Velco. Stuff doesn't budge. You could use the 1/4 inch sound damping foam (sandwich of foil, foam, glue) from ACS on the underside of the turtle deck to stiffen up it up. Come to think of it, this may be just that, a turtle deck problem rather than a canopy skirt problem. My skirt doesn't buzz either. But then, I used super sound proofing and the above mentioned foam wherever I suspected 'oil canning' might be a problem. Regards, Vince H. Washington State RV8 69.5 hours & still stalling on the wheel pants, fairings, and paint. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: October 30, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: RV8-List: Canopy Skirt Buzz... Hello Listers, After the very first flight on the RV-8, I discovered that the fiberglass skirts around the canopy loved to buzz against the turtle deck skin at anything over about 100mph. To soften the intersection between the skirt and the skin I added a row of Velcro-brand "loops" tape all the way around the base of the canopy skirt on the inside including around the bottom of the windscreen so that when the canopy was closed any skin to skirt areas were cushioned with a thickness of the Velcro. That worked great and totally eliminated the buzzing and also sealed up the cabin nicely. I was pleased. But, after a Summer in California and 112 hours of flying, the Velcro just didn't hold up. In the Summer sun, the glue became gooey and the tape slipped out of position along the curve behind the passenger and looked like grandma's slip was showing. Along the extreme rear where the skirts come together and the fit is pretty tight, the glue squeezed out from the heat and kind of goo-ed all around on the metal. So, I removed the skirts a couple of weekends ago and literally spend a whole weekend removing the Velcro and all of the glue. I was lucky and the in the process I didn't remove any of the textured paint on the skirts or windscreen frame - whew, that was a scary two days. This weekend I finally got to take her out for a flight after the oil cooler replacement (all went fine, btw) and try out the new "tape-less" installation. Holy COW!! It was SOOOOOO noisy! At 200mph I took the headphones off and couldn't believe the DB level. I really couldn't stand the noise level with the headphone ON, and without then it just plain hurt. I slowed down to about 150mph and the noise decreased slightly, but not that much. I slowed down to a stall and finally the buzzing stopped, but as soon as I pushed the nose over and speeded up a little it started again. Obviously I'm going to have to put something like the Velco back on the inside of the canopy frame. But what? I'm guessing that all RV-8's must have this issue. I surprised there isn't something in the plans to deal with it. Is there some magic tape/insulator that people are using for this that will hold up in the heat of the Summer sun? Thanks in advance! - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 112+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!




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