---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/26/11: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:27 AM - Re: NAV/COM/GS Antenna (Matt Dralle) 2. 12:24 PM - Re: Airplane Building Degrees (Pete Cowper) 3. 04:41 PM - Re: Re: Airplane Building Degrees (William L. Paulin) 4. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: Airplane Building Degrees (Mitch Black) 5. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: Airplane Building Degrees (William L. Paulin) 6. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Airplane Building Degrees (William L. Paulin) 7. 06:30 PM - Re: Re: Airplane Building Degrees (Mitch Black) 8. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: Airplane Building Degrees (William L. Paulin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:59 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV8-List: Re: NAV/COM/GS Antenna >At 02:53 PM 1/26/2011 Wednesday, you wrote: >Gday all, >I bought a Comant CI-121 NAV/COM/GS Antenna (V dipole) to install on my VS but I have discovered that it wont fit. >The diameter of the mounting base is 2.5 inches and that will not fit into the Fibreglass Fairing on top of the VS. >Which V dipoles have other people used on their VS? > >Cheers > >John MacCallum >Builder 41016 > >Rydal NSW Australia Hi John, I realize you posted about this a few months old, but I thought I'd comment on your VOR antenna mounting conundrum. You called out a "CI-121 Nav/COM/GS", but I think you really meant something like a CI-158C which is a Di-pole VOR/GS/Loc antenna. The CI-121 is a fiberglass COM antenna only. Here is the Cheif web page on NAV/GS/Loc antennas: http://www.chiefaircraft.com/airsec/Aircraft/Antennas/ComantIndustries-NAV.html In any case, I mounted a CI-158C in the fin of my RV-8 and it works very nicely there. Here are some pictures of the installation: Finished Installation: http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log=67041&row=1 Installation Techniques: http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log=66967&row=49 http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log=66968&row=48 Best regards, - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:57 PM PST US From: "Pete Cowper" Subject: RV8-List: RE: Airplane Building Degrees Have any of you had any experience with diploma mills who issue Masters Degrees for "life experience" and other nonsense? I would like to get a Masters degree to tuck in between my BA and JD degrees on my resume and figure my 1,800+ hours so far plus a check ought to be right up their alley. Pete Cowper (retired - paperboy, Woolworth's luncheonette dish washer, Oil Company "junior executive" & lawyer) RV8 #81139 - working on upper fuselage skins over instrument panel mounts ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: RE: Airplane Building Degrees From: "William L. Paulin" Please ... anyone worth his salt, upon finding you are using this con ... will think a lot less of you. Why would you do that to yourself? Bill On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Pete Cowper wrote: Have any of you had any experience with diploma mills who issue Masters Degrees for "life experience" and other nonsense? I would like to get a Masters degree to tuck in between my BA and JD degrees on my resume and figure my 1,800+ hours so far plus a check ought to be right up their alley. Pete Cowper (retired - paperboy, Woolworth's luncheonette dish washer, Oil Company "junior executive" & lawyer) RV8 #81139 - working on upper fuselage skins over instrument panel mounts ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:47 PM PST US From: Mitch Black Subject: Re: RV8-List: RE: Airplane Building Degrees Excuse me, as I am always lurking in the background but had to chime in on your comment Bill. I've seen plenty of educated, uneducated folk, stripped of their powers of reason and critical thinking with fancy titles issued by accredited establishments. So what's the difference? Bottom line --- one must do some research on the individual and make an informed judgment as to whatever interest you about their capabilities and/or character. Thanks, Mitch Black On 3/26/2011 4:37 PM, William L. Paulin wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "William L. Paulin" > > Please ... anyone worth his salt, upon finding you are using this con ... will think a lot less of you. Why would you do that to yourself? > > Bill > > > On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Pete Cowper wrote: > > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Pete Cowper" > > Have any of you had any experience with diploma mills who issue Masters > Degrees for "life experience" and other nonsense? I would like to get a > Masters degree to tuck in between my BA and JD degrees on my resume and > figure my 1,800+ hours so far plus a check ought to be right up their alley. > Pete Cowper (retired - paperboy, Woolworth's luncheonette dish washer, Oil > Company "junior executive"& lawyer) > RV8 #81139 - working on upper fuselage skins over instrument panel mounts > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: RE: Airplane Building Degrees From: "William L. Paulin" When someone says they want to fake it (a mill, whether you like our academic institutions or not [I generally don't ... got out of them years ago], is faking it ... unless they put "purchased for $xx and given for life experience" on the diploma), has done the research on himself. Why do more? Bill ********************************** William L. Paulin, Ph.D. 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@usa.net On Mar 26, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Mitch Black wrote: Excuse me, as I am always lurking in the background but had to chime in on your comment Bill. I've seen plenty of educated, uneducated folk, stripped of their powers of reason and critical thinking with fancy titles issued by accredited establishments. So what's the difference? Bottom line --- one must do some research on the individual and make an informed judgment as to whatever interest you about their capabilities and/or character. Thanks, Mitch Black On 3/26/2011 4:37 PM, William L. Paulin wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "William L. Paulin" > > Please ... anyone worth his salt, upon finding you are using this con ... will think a lot less of you. Why would you do that to yourself? > > Bill > > > > On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Pete Cowper wrote: > > --> RV8-List message posted by: "Pete Cowper" > > Have any of you had any experience with diploma mills who issue Masters > Degrees for "life experience" and other nonsense? I would like to get a > Masters degree to tuck in between my BA and JD degrees on my resume and > figure my 1,800+ hours so far plus a check ought to be right up their alley. > Pete Cowper (retired - paperboy, Woolworth's luncheonette dish washer, Oil > Company "junior executive"& lawyer) > RV8 #81139 - working on upper fuselage skins over instrument panel mounts > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: RE: Airplane Building Degrees From: "William L. Paulin" Yup. The QUALITY of the experience ... whether in education or business or engineering or ... is everything ... ********************************** William L. Paulin, Ph.D. 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@usa.net On Mar 26, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Guy Cole wrote: Once upon a time we (a group of engineers) were mocking a fresh resume from a recent graduate of a noted diploma mill. The hiring manager said "now I know he is both uneducated and doesn't know how to spend his money" On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:37 PM, William L. Paulin wrote: Please ... anyone worth his salt, upon finding you are using this con ... will think a lot less of you. Why would you do that to yourself? Bill On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Pete Cowper wrote: Have any of you had any experience with diploma mills who issue Masters Degrees for "life experience" and other nonsense? I would like to get a Masters degree to tuck in between my BA and JD degrees on my resume and figure my 1,800+ hours so far plus a check ought to be right up their alley. Pete Cowper (retired - paperboy, Woolworth's luncheonette dish washer, Oil Company "junior executive" & lawyer) RV8 #81139 - working on upper fuselage skins over instrument panel mounts -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Guy Cole "Expert Plain And Fancy Bit Twiddling" guycole@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:52 PM PST US From: Mitch Black Subject: Re: RV8-List: RE: Airplane Building Degrees The general purpose of the "diploma mills" certainly seems to be faking it. I am in total agreement that presenting yourself to be something one isn't, is a good indication of poor character. I think that many post grads today are in a very real sense faking it just as if they went out and purchased their diploma. Seems to me that academe has moved its emphasis to successful completion of tests and strengthening of ones mind by improving cognitive skills are left to the dust bin. ---- So, now we are beset with grads who excel at memorization. Great Jeopardy contestants, no doubt. Of course I am making generalizations here, so I don't want to exclude exceptions to my jaded, prejudiced opinion. haha! Mitch Black On 3/26/2011 5:31 PM, William L. Paulin wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "William L. Paulin" > > When someone says they want to fake it (a mill, whether you like our academic institutions or not [I generally don't ... got out of them years ago], is faking it ... unless they put "purchased for $xx and given for life experience" on the diploma), has done the research on himself. Why do more? > > Bill > ********************************** > William L. Paulin, Ph.D. > 1575 South Forest Drive > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > Office +1 760 720 2905 > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > wpaulin@usa.net > > > On Mar 26, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Mitch Black wrote: > > --> RV8-List message posted by: Mitch Black > > Excuse me, as I am always lurking in the background but had to chime in on your comment Bill. I've seen plenty of educated, uneducated folk, stripped of their powers of reason and critical thinking with fancy titles issued by accredited establishments. So what's the difference? Bottom line --- one must do some research on the individual and make an informed judgment as to whatever interest you about their capabilities and/or character. > > Thanks, > > Mitch Black > > On 3/26/2011 4:37 PM, William L. Paulin wrote: >> --> RV8-List message posted by: "William L. Paulin" >> >> Please ... anyone worth his salt, upon finding you are using this con ... will think a lot less of you. Why would you do that to yourself? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Pete Cowper wrote: >> >> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Pete Cowper" >> >> Have any of you had any experience with diploma mills who issue Masters >> Degrees for "life experience" and other nonsense? I would like to get a >> Masters degree to tuck in between my BA and JD degrees on my resume and >> figure my 1,800+ hours so far plus a check ought to be right up their alley. >> Pete Cowper (retired - paperboy, Woolworth's luncheonette dish washer, Oil >> Company "junior executive"& lawyer) >> RV8 #81139 - working on upper fuselage skins over instrument panel mounts >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV8-List: RE: Airplane Building Degrees From: "William L. Paulin" I left academe years ago because I was interested in: 1. knowing my subject (engineering & business) and 2. teaching, in that order. I was less interested in publication of statistical from a distance observations ... which is really the only way to get promoted in most major universities. So I went into business ... and now have learned enough so that my publications might be useful to the business community. But it is too late for that. ********************************* William L. Paulin, Ph.D. PaulinNeal Associates 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@paulinneal.com On Mar 26, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Mitch Black wrote: The general purpose of the "diploma mills" certainly seems to be faking it. I am in total agreement that presenting yourself to be something one isn't, is a good indication of poor character. I think that many post grads today are in a very real sense faking it just as if they went out and purchased their diploma. Seems to me that academe has moved its emphasis to successful completion of tests and strengthening of ones mind by improving cognitive skills are left to the dust bin. ---- So, now we are beset with grads who excel at memorization. Great Jeopardy contestants, no doubt. Of course I am making generalizations here, so I don't want to exclude exceptions to my jaded, prejudiced opinion. haha! Mitch Black On 3/26/2011 5:31 PM, William L. Paulin wrote: > --> RV8-List message posted by: "William L. Paulin" > > When someone says they want to fake it (a mill, whether you like our academic institutions or not [I generally don't ... got out of them years ago], is faking it ... unless they put "purchased for $xx and given for life experience" on the diploma), has done the research on himself. Why do more? > > Bill > ********************************** > William L. Paulin, Ph.D. > 1575 South Forest Drive > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > Cell +1 858 722 2905 > Office +1 760 720 2905 > Europe +358 40 720 4047 > > wpaulin@usa.net > > > On Mar 26, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Mitch Black wrote: > > --> RV8-List message posted by: Mitch Black > > Excuse me, as I am always lurking in the background but had to chime in on your comment Bill. I've seen plenty of educated, uneducated folk, stripped of their powers of reason and critical thinking with fancy titles issued by accredited establishments. So what's the difference? Bottom line --- one must do some research on the individual and make an informed judgment as to whatever interest you about their capabilities and/or character. > > Thanks, > > Mitch Black > > On 3/26/2011 4:37 PM, William L. Paulin wrote: >> --> RV8-List message posted by: "William L. Paulin" >> >> Please ... anyone worth his salt, upon finding you are using this con ... will think a lot less of you. Why would you do that to yourself? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Pete Cowper wrote: >> >> --> RV8-List message posted by: "Pete Cowper" >> >> Have any of you had any experience with diploma mills who issue Masters >> Degrees for "life experience" and other nonsense? I would like to get a >> Masters degree to tuck in between my BA and JD degrees on my resume and >> figure my 1,800+ hours so far plus a check ought to be right up their alley. >> Pete Cowper (retired - paperboy, Woolworth's luncheonette dish washer, Oil >> Company "junior executive"& lawyer) >> RV8 #81139 - working on upper fuselage skins over instrument panel mounts >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv8-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV8-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv8-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv8-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.