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1. 06:17 AM - Re: Max wind speed limit (Glen Matejcek)
2. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Max wind speed limit (William L. Paulin)
3. 08:45 AM - Re: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations (Neal George)
4. 08:56 AM - Re: Re: Max wind speed limit ()
5. 08:04 PM - Reusing 3/8" Flares... (Matt Dralle)
6. 08:19 PM - Re: Reusing 3/8" Flares... (Alan Searle)
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Subject: | Re: Max wind speed limit |
Well said, Stan.
Glen Matejcek
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Subject: | Re: Max wind speed limit |
I meant self imposed limits ... for self and the AC being flown.
The last thing I would want on earth is another government involvement
in anything. The FAA is already pricing flying out of most folks reach,
with a LOT less benefit created than their astronomical, bureaucratic
cost.
BIll
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On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Speedy11@aol.com wrote:
No.
Stan Sutterfield
Okay, let me expand on my response.
Who is to decide what the proposed max wind speed limit is? And how is
the speed determined? Does one choose the touchdown speed (say 60 KIAS)
as the max wind speed limit since that wind speed would result in a
hover landing (assuming one is landing into the wind)?
And who, on the scene, determines that the max wind speed limit has been
reached? The tower? How about at an uncontrolled airport? The AWOS?
I suggest that the pilot in the airplane determines the max wind speed
limit for him/herself. Each pilot knows his own skill, total
experience, recent experience, time in type, and immediate weather
conditions. Each pilot should decide for himself if landing in given
conditions is suitable or not. Having a max wind speed number
determined by "someone" beyond which pilots may not land is not
appropriate. I have landed a taildragger in 75 knot headwinds and a
C-172 in 25 knot crosswinds. Landing is not the difficult part - it is
the taxiing. Taxiing a C-172 in 25 knot winds is very challenging and
requires careful planning. Taxiing a tail wheel aircraft in calm
conditions is challenging and requires careful planning - winds can
compound the problem.
I suggest that we already have too much "outside the cockpit"
interference now. Adding another restriction to bring everyone to the
lowest common denominator is not the solution. Thinking about and
planning for and practicing for the situation is the solution.
It sounds as if Matt did nothing wrong during his landing other than
trying to make an early turnoff. A max wind speed limit would not have
reduced the likelihood of his bent airplane.
I appreciate that Matt has generously shared his situation with us. It
allows us all to learn without having to experience the same outcome.
I'm not sure if I'd have been so generous.
Okay, rant over - flame suit on. : ) The answer is still no.
In a message dated 7/9/2011 3:11:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rv8-list@matronics.com writes:
In addition to a maximum crosswind component
(especially for tail draggers), should we have a simple maximum wind
speed limit?
... or maybe a maximum gust component (e.g., Vgust - Vsteady)?
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Subject: | O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations |
Robin -
There are many minor differences among the various vendors - bottle size and
shape, valve configuration, regulator configuration, and delivery / metering
scheme. All that makes it difficult to compare one with the others. I
bought a SkyOx system, then added a few parts from Mountain High.
1 - Out of the box, one needs a wrench to attach the SkyOx regulator to the
bottle. During a rental pre-flight, before daylight, long before the FBO
opens (no tools available) is not the time to find the coupler nut loose. I
ordered a hand nut and a stem with an O-ring from Mountain High to replace
the stock SkyOx coupler - no tools required to mount the regulator to the
bottle.
2 - The regulators and gauges that come with most kits are not the most
efficient delivery systems. Mountain High offers a precise flow meter that
can be added to any system. It will help you get the most mileage per fill.
Neal
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
It's past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an integrated
system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but I don't see the
need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my mission. I can see a
removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded pouch to place in the
cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard mounting of O2 pick up
locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos of the systems they use?
I am looking for practical solutions, not full blown O2 system in the
forward baggage & routed hard lines.
Thanks,
Robin
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Subject: | Re: Max wind speed limit |
Well put and thanks Stan
Geezer2 RV8 N18LD
---- Speedy11@aol.com wrote:
>
> No.
>
> Stan Sutterfield
>
> Okay, let me expand on my response.
> Who is to decide what the proposed max wind speed limit is? And how is
> the speed determined? Does one choose the touchdown speed (say 60 KIAS) as
> the max wind speed limit since that wind speed would result in a hover
> landing (assuming one is landing into the wind)?
> And who, on the scene, determines that the max wind speed limit has been
> reached? The tower? How about at an uncontrolled airport? The AWOS?
> I suggest that the pilot in the airplane determines the max wind speed
> limit for him/herself. Each pilot knows his own skill, total experience,
> recent experience, time in type, and immediate weather conditions. Each pilot
> should decide for himself if landing in given conditions is suitable or
> not. Having a max wind speed number determined by "someone" beyond which
> pilots may not land is not appropriate. I have landed a taildragger in 75 knot
> headwinds and a C-172 in 25 knot crosswinds. Landing is not the difficult
> part - it is the taxiing. Taxiing a C-172 in 25 knot winds is very
> challenging and requires careful planning. Taxiing a tail wheel aircraft in
calm
> conditions is challenging and requires careful planning - winds can
> compound the problem.
> I suggest that we already have too much "outside the cockpit" interference
> now. Adding another restriction to bring everyone to the lowest common
> denominator is not the solution. Thinking about and planning for and
> practicing for the situation is the solution.
> It sounds as if Matt did nothing wrong during his landing other than trying
> to make an early turnoff. A max wind speed limit would not have reduced
> the likelihood of his bent airplane.
> I appreciate that Matt has generously shared his situation with us. It
> allows us all to learn without having to experience the same outcome. I'm
> not sure if I'd have been so generous.
> Okay, rant over - flame suit on. : ) The answer is still no.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/9/2011 3:11:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> rv8-list@matronics.com writes:
>
> In addition to a maximum crosswind component
> (especially for tail draggers), should we have a simple maximum wind speed
> limit?
> ... or maybe a maximum gust component (e.g., Vgust - Vsteady)?
>
>
>
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Subject: | Reusing 3/8" Flares... |
Dear Listers,
I pulled out all of the fuel selector valve and fuel pump goodies from the old
fuselage today. I disassembled all of the various flare ends and cleaned up all
the Fuel Lube with lacquer thinner making sure not to get any in the pump or
valve or transducers. All but two of the fuel lines seem to be reusable and
don't show any signs of damage from the Mishap. I really don't want to have
to recut, rebend, and reflare all of these if I don't have to.
What's the common knowledge on reusing the flares on the fuel and brake lines?
Am I just asking for a bunch of leaks if I put these back into service now that
I've unscrewed them?
Thanks!
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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Subject: | Re: Reusing 3/8" Flares... |
Reuse the good ones Matt.
RV8 VH-AKS 200 hrs.
On 11/07/2011, at 1:02 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> I pulled out all of the fuel selector valve and fuel pump goodies from the old
fuselage today. I disassembled all of the various flare ends and cleaned up
all the Fuel Lube with lacquer thinner making sure not to get any in the pump
or valve or transducers. All but two of the fuel lines seem to be reusable and
don't show any signs of damage from the Mishap. I really don't want to have
to recut, rebend, and reflare all of these if I don't have to.
>
> What's the common knowledge on reusing the flares on the fuel and brake lines?
>
> Am I just asking for a bunch of leaks if I put these back into service now that
I've unscrewed them?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
> <2008.10.04 - RV-8 - Fuel System Plumbing (7).jpg><2008.10.04 - RV-8 - Fuel System
Plumbing (9).jpg>
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