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1. 03:49 AM - Re: Reusing 3/8" Flares... (elton stone)
2. 04:35 AM - Re: Reusing 3/8" Flares... (Al Grajek)
3. 10:42 PM - Re: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations (Speedy11@aol.com)
4. 11:18 PM - Re: Max wind speed limit (Speedy11@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Reusing 3/8" Flares... |
Matt,
My rule is to carefully inspect each line, pulling back each b nut to
inspect the flares. If you use a good 10x magnifying glass, inspect it that
way. But you can can use lines again without reflaring! If find a crack
discard, make a new line..
Elton Stone
Director of Aviation
College of the Albemarle
RV-8A
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[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Searle
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Reusing 3/8" Flares...
Reuse the good ones Matt.
RV8 VH-AKS 200 hrs.
On 11/07/2011, at 1:02 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> I pulled out all of the fuel selector valve and fuel pump goodies from the
old fuselage today. I disassembled all of the various flare ends and
cleaned up all the Fuel Lube with lacquer thinner making sure not to get any
in the pump or valve or transducers. All but two of the fuel lines seem to
be reusable and don't show any signs of damage from the Mishap. I really
don't want to have to recut, rebend, and reflare all of these if I don't
have to.
>
> What's the common knowledge on reusing the flares on the fuel and brake
lines?
>
> Am I just asking for a bunch of leaks if I put these back into service now
that I've unscrewed them?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
> <2008.10.04 - RV-8 - Fuel System Plumbing (7).jpg><2008.10.04 - RV-8 -
> Fuel System Plumbing (9).jpg>
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| Subject: | Reusing 3/8" Flares... |
Matt:
Just check for cracks and any debris. You can re use these with no problem
at all. FYI=2C you really DON'T want to use fuel lube on these AN fittings.
That stuff is mainly used on Pipe thread fittings where the fluid will lea
k through the threads. On an AN fitting=2C the flare fitting takes care of
that.
Al
> Date: Sun=2C 10 Jul 2011 20:02:17 -0700
> To: rv-list@matronics.com=3B rv8-list@matronics.com=3B rv7-list@matronics
.com
> From: dralle@matronics.com
> Subject: RV8-List: Reusing 3/8" Flares...
>
>
> Dear Listers=2C
>
> I pulled out all of the fuel selector valve and fuel pump goodies from th
e old fuselage today. I disassembled all of the various flare ends and cle
aned up all the Fuel Lube with lacquer thinner making sure not to get any i
n the pump or valve or transducers. All but two of the fuel lines seem to
be reusable and don't show any signs of damage from the Mishap. I really d
on't want to have to recut=2C rebend=2C and reflare all of these if I don't
have to.
>
> What's the common knowledge on reusing the flares on the fuel and brake l
ines?
>
> Am I just asking for a bunch of leaks if I put these back into service no
w that I've unscrewed them?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| Subject: | Re: O2 systems for an RV8 Recommendations |
Robin,
I have climbed my 8A to FL240 using a borrowed O2 bottle and mask. The
unit worked perfectly. It was easy to set the desired Oxy flow. I've been
in the USAF altitude chamber a number of times and I know my hypoxia
symptoms perfectly and I had no indication of hypoxia. I test flew the bottle
to
17.5k feet before going higher so as to make sure I knew how to use it and
insure proper operation.
I can't recall the brand name offhand, but I will find out which one it was
and give you a pirep on it. Should I buy one, it is the one I will buy.
Personally, I would not install a permanent O2 system in a RV. That would
mean carrying around the weight for the life of the airplane. RVs tend to
get overweight anyway, so flying around with something that might me used
a time or two per year is, for me, not worthwhile.
The issue with a portable bottle is finding a place to store and secure it
for the flight. If you're solo, then the solution is relatively simple.
I put it alongside my seat with a SS hose clamp to hold it to the sidewall.
A better means of attachment could easily be installed with several hose
clamps attached to nutplates on the sidewall. With a passenger, the
problem is more complicated. You need access to the top of the bottle to adjust
the O2 flow, so storing it away in a baggage compartment is not feasible.
I've seen some "backpack" type harnesses the hand on the back of the front
seat, but there are issues with that also - you have to depend of the
passenger to adjust the O2 and the rear stick would have to be removed to avoid
any possibility of jamming against the bottle.
Of course the 6, 7, and 9 can put it behind the seat and reach over for
adjustments.
Stan Sutterfield
In a message dated 7/10/2011 3:11:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rv8-list@matronics.com writes:
It=92s past time for me to be considering O2 for my 8A. I have an
integrate
d
system in my -10 which was the right call for that plane but I don=92t see
the
need for a permanently fixed bottle on the 8A for my mission. I can see a
removable bottle or even just a bottle & padded pouch to place in the
cockpit for occasional X-Country use and no hard mounting of O2 pick up
locations. Does anyone have a suggestions / photos of the systems they use?
I am looking for practical solutions, not full blown O2 system in the
forward baggage & routed hard lines.
Thanks,
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Max wind speed limit |
Dr. Paulin,
Please accept my apology. I misread your comment.
I'd like to think that each pilot does think about his experience level and
flying time in order to create his own self imposed limits. I believe
that an even more important consideration is how much exposure the pilot has
experienced with unusual or demanding situations. I've found that I rarely
fully consider all the possible outcomes and consequences of a given
situation. If I survive the situation without damaging anything, then I do my
own NTSB to analyze what else I should have considered and how I can make a
better decision the next time (note that the next decision could be the same
as the first one - except that additional knowledge makes it a more
learned decision).
I'd like to remark about your statement "The FAA is already pricing flying
out of most folks reach..." I do agree with you that flying has become
terribly expensive and out of reach of most Americans. The FAA has
contributed heavily to the problem without commensurate benefits. However, I've
owned ten single engine aircraft over the years. I remember selling my 1962
C-172 in 1976 because the cost of flying was "out of control." The cost of
Av gas had reached 76 cents per gallon and people could not afford such
prices!!! And woe was us because the government was going to force us to all
use LL fuel and all of our engines were going to die and cost us millions.
Now we are facing the end of LL fuel and many journalists are crying gloom
and doom again.
It seems to me that people who love flying airplanes will find a way - I
know I will.
One disturbing trend though, is that of airspace restricted from GA
operations. The massive use of TFRs is out of control and AOPA seems to welcome
the trend - instead of fighting as they should. Have you tried to navigate
to DCA lately? You, as an American citizen, cannot use DCA as a
navigation point. And it is restricted only for the convenience of the TSA.
There is even a TFR over Disney World!! That is simply political
cronyism. Pilots should NOT have to worry about an interception or a violation
for
flying over Disney World at 1500' AGL.
Okay - this rant is over, too. I get fired up too easily, I guess.
Regards,
Stan Sutterfield
PS - I've dropped my AOPA membership because they no longer stand for what
is right. There - that should get some rounds coming my way. : )
In a message dated 7/11/2011 3:03:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rv8-list@matronics.com writes:
I meant self imposed limits ... for self and the AC being flown.
The last thing I would want on earth is another government involvement
in anything. The FAA is already pricing flying out of most folks reach,
with a LOT less benefit created than their astronomical, bureaucratic
cost.
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