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Mon 08/08/11


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 07:08 AM - RV-8 Cowl Vents (japhillipsga@aol.com)
     2. 10:53 AM - Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents (Matt Dralle)
     3. 03:28 PM - Re: Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents (Michael Kraus)
     4. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents (Robin Marks)
     5. 05:01 PM - Re: Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents (japhillipsga@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:08:01 AM PST US
    Subject: RV-8 Cowl Vents
    From: japhillipsga@aol.com
    Dear Fellow RV-8 Builders, I now have 13 hours on my 0360 Lyc. Still having # 1 CHT get too hot before TOC. So I have to throttle back and stairstep u p to altitude. Temps should be stable by now with 13 hours. So I bought fro m Avery the bottom cowl louvers to improve airflow. Talked to a couple RV-8 drivers both said the vents lowered CHTs about 20 degrees. Question is how is best to mount? What shape and size hole(s)? The bottom of the vent pla te is flat while the cowl bottoms have compound curve surfaces. What is bes t for looks and effectiveness and strength? Hope to hear from someone, Bill of Georgia N288WP -----Original Message----- From: RV8-List Digest Server <rv8-list@matronics.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2011 3:07 am Subject: RV8-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/07/11 * ======================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== Today's complete RV8-List Digest can also be found in either of the wo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted n HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes nd Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version f the RV8-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor uch as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=htm l&Chapter 11-08-07&Archive=RV8 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt &Chapter 11-08-07&Archive=RV8 ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/07/11: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- oday's Message Index: --------------------- -======================== -= - The RV8-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 10:53:14 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents
    At 07:04 AM 8/8/2011 Monday, you wrote: >Dear Fellow RV-8 Builders, I now have 13 hours on my 0360 Lyc. Still having # 1 CHT get too hot before TOC. So I have to throttle back and stairstep up to altitude. Temps should be stable by now with 13 hours. So I bought from Avery the bottom cowl louvers to improve airflow. Talked to a couple RV-8 drivers both said the vents lowered CHTs about 20 degrees. Question is how is best to mount? What shape and size hole(s)? The bottom of the vent plate is flat while the cowl bottoms have compound curve surfaces. What is best for looks and effectiveness and strength? Hope to hear from someone, Bill of Georgia N288WP Hi Bill, I have an IO-390 210hp on my RV-8 with the standard cowling. I don't have any trouble with CHT's (generally well under 400f) and my oil temps are generally in the low 180'sf. If I take off on a hot day at sea level and climb hard, I can get the CHT on the hot cylinder to go over 400 but by that time I'm at 8000 ft and simply decreasing my angle slightly will bring it back down. The only "non-stock" aspect of my installation is the giant oil cooler I added to the back of the baffle. Its about twice the size of the stock one. Before you start cutting holes in your cowling, you might want to do some more investigation into the cause of the overheating. Might be indicative of something else. Plugged oil line to that cylinder, maybe a blocked fuel injector on that cylinder? Try swapping the injectors between the hottest and coolest cylinder and see what impact this has on the CHT. Here's some info on the oil cooler installation that has worked well for me: http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2972&log=90253&row=84 Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...


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    Time: 03:28:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Bill, Do you have the wheel pants and gear leg fairings installed? If not, I would not make any drastic changes until you get them installed. They will speed your plane up and provide less drag, of which you will get more airflow and less engine work. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: > > At 07:04 AM 8/8/2011 Monday, you wrote: >> Dear Fellow RV-8 Builders, I now have 13 hours on my 0360 Lyc. Still having # 1 CHT get too hot before TOC. So I have to throttle back and stairstep up to altitude. Temps should be stable by now with 13 hours. So I bought from Avery the bottom cowl louvers to improve airflow. Talked to a couple RV-8 drivers both said the vents lowered CHTs about 20 degrees. Question is how is best to mount? What shape and size hole(s)? The bottom of the vent plate is flat while the cowl bottoms have compound curve surfaces. What is best for looks and effectiveness and strength? Hope to hear from someone, Bill of Georgia N288WP > > Hi Bill, > > I have an IO-390 210hp on my RV-8 with the standard cowling. I don't have any trouble with CHT's (generally well under 400f) and my oil temps are generally in the low 180'sf. If I take off on a hot day at sea level and climb hard, I can get the CHT on the hot cylinder to go over 400 but by that time I'm at 8000 ft and simply decreasing my angle slightly will bring it back down. The only "non-stock" aspect of my installation is the giant oil cooler I added to the back of the baffle. Its about twice the size of the stock one. > > Before you start cutting holes in your cowling, you might want to do some more investigation into the cause of the overheating. Might be indicative of something else. Plugged oil line to that cylinder, maybe a blocked fuel injector on that cylinder? Try swapping the injectors between the hottest and coolest cylinder and see what impact this has on the CHT. > > Here's some info on the oil cooler installation that has worked well for me: > > http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2972&log=90253&row=84 > > Matt > > > - > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > > > >


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    Time: 03:41:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    That was our experience exactly (8A) but with oil temps, our CHT's were fine. Wheel pants & leg fairings added about 14 knots and reduced our oil temps about 15 degrees. Robin Do Not Archive On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>wrote: > > Bill, > > Do you have the wheel pants and gear leg fairings installed? If not, I > would not make any drastic changes until you get them installed. They will > speed your plane up and provide less drag, of which you will get more > airflow and less engine work. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: > > > > > At 07:04 AM 8/8/2011 Monday, you wrote: > >> Dear Fellow RV-8 Builders, I now have 13 hours on my 0360 Lyc. Still > having # 1 CHT get too hot before TOC. So I have to throttle back and > stairstep up to altitude. Temps should be stable by now with 13 hours. So I > bought from Avery the bottom cowl louvers to improve airflow. Talked to a > couple RV-8 drivers both said the vents lowered CHTs about 20 degrees. > Question is how is best to mount? What shape and size hole(s)? The bottom > of the vent plate is flat while the cowl bottoms have compound curve > surfaces. What is best for looks and effectiveness and strength? Hope to > hear from someone, Bill of Georgia N288WP > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > I have an IO-390 210hp on my RV-8 with the standard cowling. I don't > have any trouble with CHT's (generally well under 400f) and my oil temps are > generally in the low 180'sf. If I take off on a hot day at sea level and > climb hard, I can get the CHT on the hot cylinder to go over 400 but by that > time I'm at 8000 ft and simply decreasing my angle slightly will bring it > back down. The only "non-stock" aspect of my installation is the giant oil > cooler I added to the back of the baffle. Its about twice the size of the > stock one. > > > > Before you start cutting holes in your cowling, you might want to do some > more investigation into the cause of the overheating. Might be indicative > of something else. Plugged oil line to that cylinder, maybe a blocked fuel > injector on that cylinder? Try swapping the injectors between the hottest > and coolest cylinder and see what impact this has on the CHT. > > > > Here's some info on the oil cooler installation that has worked well for > me: > > > > > http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2972&log=90253&row=84 > > > > Matt > > > > > > - > > Matt Dralle > > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:01:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents
    From: japhillipsga@aol.com
    Thanks fellows, the engine is new and only has 13 hours on it. I am still working on the damned intersections and pants, etc. I appreciate the advise not to install the louver vents until I see how she does with the undercar riage clean, Makes good sense, Bill -----Original Message----- From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2011 6:42 pm Subject: Re: RV8-List: Re: RV-8 Cowl Vents That was our experience exactly (8A) but with oil temps, our CHT's were fin e. Wheel pants & leg fairings added about 14 knots and reduced our oil temp s about 15 degrees. Robin Do Not Archive On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrote: Bill, Do you have the wheel pants and gear leg fairings installed? If not, I wou ld not make any drastic changes until you get them installed. They will sp eed your plane up and provide less drag, of which you will get more airflow and less engine work. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: > > At 07:04 AM 8/8/2011 Monday, you wrote: >> Dear Fellow RV-8 Builders, I now have 13 hours on my 0360 Lyc. Still hav ing # 1 CHT get too hot before TOC. So I have to throttle back and stairste p up to altitude. Temps should be stable by now with 13 hours. So I bought from Avery the bottom cowl louvers to improve airflow. Talked to a couple R V-8 drivers both said the vents lowered CHTs about 20 degrees. Question is how is best to mount? What shape and size hole(s)? The bottom of the vent plate is flat while the cowl bottoms have compound curve surfaces. What is best for looks and effectiveness and strength? Hope to hear from someone, B ill of Georgia N288WP > > Hi Bill, > > I have an IO-390 210hp on my RV-8 with the standard cowling. I don't hav e any trouble with CHT's (generally well under 400f) and my oil temps are g enerally in the low 180'sf. If I take off on a hot day at sea level and cl imb hard, I can get the CHT on the hot cylinder to go over 400 but by that time I'm at 8000 ft and simply decreasing my angle slightly will bring it b ack down. The only "non-stock" aspect of my installation is the giant oil cooler I added to the back of the baffle. Its about twice the size of the stock one. > > Before you start cutting holes in your cowling, you might want to do some more investigation into the cause of the overheating. Might be indicative of something else. Plugged oil line to that cylinder, maybe a blocked fue l injector on that cylinder? Try swapping the injectors between the hottes t and coolest cylinder and see what impact this has on the CHT. > > Here's some info on the oil cooler installation that has worked well for me: > > http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&proj ect=638&category=2972&log=90253&row=84 > > Matt > > > - > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV8-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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