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1. 09:03 AM - Re: Main Longerons (Rasmussen, Robert CAPT N08961, N7)
2. 03:30 PM - First Fllight (Breece Nesbitt)
3. 03:42 PM - Re: First Fllight (Les Bourne)
4. 04:25 PM - Re: First Fllight (Larry Bowen)
5. 04:41 PM - Re: First Fllight (Chris Johnston)
6. 04:48 PM - Re: First Fllight (Carl Froehlich)
7. 05:31 PM - Re: First Fllight (Breece Nesbitt)
8. 05:47 PM - Re: First Fllight (Michael Kraus)
9. 10:06 PM - Re: First Fllight (Vince Himsl)
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Thanks for the input y'all. I'm lucky to have a couple of aviation/marine grade
(ISO 9001-2000 / AS9100 approved) metal suppliers here in Norfolk. They've
got what appears to be exactly the same 6061-T6 angle as Van's sells. Had to
get 50' of it, but at that it still only cost $55. Way better/faster than $350
shipped from Oregon...
Robert
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From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Huffaker
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:32
Subject: Re: RV8-List: Main Longerons
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Rasmussen, Robert CAPT N08961, N7 wrote:
> So I lost the main longerons (don't ask) that came with the wings. Now
>it's time to bend/install them in the fuselage. Any problem with getting
>3/4x3/4 AA6-125 aluminum from my local metal supply in Norfolk
>(cheap/easy), or do I need to get new ones shipped from Van's
>(expensive/hard)? Thanks.
I was able to find a local (Salt Lake City) source for 6061-T6 angle,
if you can verify that it is the right alloy and temper, you can measure
the dimensions easily yourself. I did find that they had a minimum
purchase, so I ended up with 32 feet of 3/4x3/4 for about the same price
as ordering 6 feet and having it shipped.
Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com)
RV-8A 80091 Engine stuff
1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying
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I made the first flight in my RV-8 last Sunday morning.- Other than havin
g a yaw to the left and one=0Acomm radio not working, the flight went well.
- However, the first landing was not so pretty.- On touchdown, the airp
lane became very=0Asquirrelly.- I was all over the place - back=0Aand for
th. -Let rudder - right rudder -=0Aover correcting.- -I had been prac
ticing in an RV-7 and had been=0Adoing good landings, so I thought I wouldn
't have any problem landing the RV-8.- I have a couple of thousand hours
in tail draggers=0A- including about 600 hours in an L-19.- I was pretty
excited making that first=0Alanding, so I thought maybe the poor handling w
as due to that.- On the next landing, though, I realized that=0AI was hav
ing to put way too much pressure on the rudder pedals to get any=0Adirectio
nal control.- The pedals were=0Avery hard to push and I was not keeping t
he airplane straight down the runway. --The next two landings were not
any better -=0Amaybe worse. -The forth and last landing convinced=0Ame th
at -I might not be so lucky next=0Atime. =0AI'm not going to fly the airp
lane again until I am convinced=0Athat I know what the problem is, and get
it corrected.- Any suggestions or thoughts (other than to quit=0Aflying)
would be appreciated.- I'm=0Athinking about changing out the tailwheel as
sembly to see if that might=0Ahelp.- =0A-=0ABreece Nesbitt=0AN28117 (1.
1 hour)
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| Subject: | Re: First Fllight |
What taiwheel spring do you have?
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Breece Nesbitt <breece28117@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I made the first flight in my RV-8 last Sunday morning. Other than having
a yaw to the left and one comm radio not working, the flight went well. Ho
wever, the first landing was not so pretty. On touchdown, the airplane beca
me very squirrelly. I was all over the place - back and forth. Let rudder -
right rudder - over correcting. I had been practicing in an RV-7 and had b
een doing good landings, so I thought I wouldn't have any problem landing th
e RV-8. I have a couple of thousand hours in tail draggers - including abou
t 600 hours in an L-19. I was pretty excited making that first landing, so I
thought maybe the poor handling was due to that. On the next landing, thou
gh, I realized that I was having to put way too much pressure on the rudder p
edals to get any directional control. The pedals were very hard to push and
I was not keeping the airplane straight down the runway. The next two lan
dings were not any better - maybe worse. The forth and last landing convinc
ed me that I might not be so lucky next time.
> I'm not going to fly the airplane again until I am convinced that I know w
hat the problem is, and get it corrected. Any suggestions or thoughts (othe
r than to quit flying) would be appreciated. I'm thinking about changing ou
t the tailwheel assembly to see if that might help.
>
> Breece Nesbitt
> N28117 (1.1 hour)
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| Subject: | Re: First Fllight |
All controls should move freely! Figure out what's binding and address it.
Wheel landings offer more control, IMO. Keep the tail up until fast taxi
speeds.
On Sep 13, 2011 6:31 PM, "Breece Nesbitt" <breece28117@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I made the first flight in my RV-8 last Sunday morning. Other than having
a yaw to the left and one
> comm radio not working, the flight went well. However, the first landing
was not so pretty. On touchdown, the airplane became very
> squirrelly. I was all over the place - back
> and forth. Let rudder - right rudder -
> over correcting. I had been practicing in an RV-7 and had been
> doing good landings, so I thought I wouldn't have any problem landing the
RV-8. I have a couple of thousand hours in tail draggers
> - including about 600 hours in an L-19. I was pretty excited making that
first
> landing, so I thought maybe the poor handling was due to that. On the
next landing, though, I realized that
> I was having to put way too much pressure on the rudder pedals to get any
> directional control. The pedals were
> very hard to push and I was not keeping the airplane straight down the
runway. The next two landings were not any better -
> maybe worse. The forth and last landing convinced
> me that I might not be so lucky next
> time.
> I'm not going to fly the airplane again until I am convinced
> that I know what the problem is, and get it corrected. Any suggestions or
thoughts (other than to quit
> flying) would be appreciated. I'm
> thinking about changing out the tailwheel assembly to see if that might
> help.
>
> Breece Nesbitt
> N28117 (1.1 hour)
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That's the question i'd have - what kind of link to you have from the rudder to
the tailwheel, and is the tailwheel stock? I had some exciting times in my 8
with a rocket steering link, which i subsequently changed out for tail lynx.
My issue was that the steering of the tailwheel was waaaaaay too touchy for me.
I was used to a decathlon, and ended up being much happier with a little slack
in the link. After flying for awhile, I did have a time where my tailwheel
steering required way too much force, and the solution was to disassemble and
lube the swivel. problem solved. It turns out that the zerk on the tailwheel
assembly doesn't work for lubricating the system, so it's best to disassemble
and lube on a regular basis.
cj
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From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Les Bourne [ualpilot3@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: First Fllight
What taiwheel spring do you have?
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Breece Nesbitt <breece28117@yahoo.com<mailto:breece28117@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I made the first flight in my RV-8 last Sunday morning. Other than having a yaw
to the left and one comm radio not working, the flight went well. However,
the first landing was not so pretty. On touchdown, the airplane became very squirrelly.
I was all over the place - back and forth. Let rudder - right rudder
- over correcting. I had been practicing in an RV-7 and had been doing good
landings, so I thought I wouldn't have any problem landing the RV-8. I have
a couple of thousand hours in tail draggers - including about 600 hours in
an L-19. I was pretty excited making that first landing, so I thought maybe the
poor handling was due to that. On the next landing, though, I realized that
I was having to put way too much pressure on the rudder pedals to get any directional
control. The pedals were very hard to push and I was not keeping the
airplane straight down the runway. The next two landings were not any better
- maybe worse. The forth and last landing convinced me that I might not be
so lucky next time.
I'm not going to fly the airplane again until I am convinced that I know what the
problem is, and get it corrected. Any suggestions or thoughts (other than
to quit flying) would be appreciated. I'm thinking about changing out the tailwheel
assembly to see if that might help.
Breece Nesbitt
N28117 (1.1 hour)
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And make sure you are not dragging a brake.
Carl
From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV8-List: First Fllight
All controls should move freely! Figure out what's binding and address it.
Wheel landings offer more control, IMO. Keep the tail up until fast taxi
speeds.
On Sep 13, 2011 6:31 PM, "Breece Nesbitt" <breece28117@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I made the first flight in my RV-8 last Sunday morning. Other than having
a yaw to the left and one
> comm radio not working, the flight went well. However, the first landing
was not so pretty. On touchdown, the airplane became very
> squirrelly. I was all over the place - back
> and forth. Let rudder - right rudder -
> over correcting. I had been practicing in an RV-7 and had been
> doing good landings, so I thought I wouldn't have any problem landing the
RV-8. I have a couple of thousand hours in tail draggers
> - including about 600 hours in an L-19. I was pretty excited making that
first
> landing, so I thought maybe the poor handling was due to that. On the
next landing, though, I realized that
> I was having to put way too much pressure on the rudder pedals to get any
> directional control. The pedals were
> very hard to push and I was not keeping the airplane straight down the
runway. The next two landings were not any better -
> maybe worse. The forth and last landing convinced
> me that I might not be so lucky next
> time.
> I'm not going to fly the airplane again until I am convinced
> that I know what the problem is, and get it corrected. Any suggestions or
thoughts (other than to quit
> flying) would be appreciated. I'm
> thinking about changing out the tailwheel assembly to see if that might
> help.
>
> Breece Nesbitt
> N28117 (1.1 hour)
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| Subject: | Re: First Fllight |
Its a standard Vans full swivel tailwheel assembly that came with my fusela
ge kit.- I've got about 1/2" to 3/4"-sag in each chain.- =0A=0A=0AFro
m: Les Bourne <ualpilot3@aol.com>=0ATo: "rv8-list@matronics.com" <rv8-list@
matronics.com>=0ASent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:39 PM=0ASubject: Re: R
V8-List: First Fllight=0A=0A=0AWhat taiwheel spring do you have?=0A=0ALes
=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Sep 13, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Breece Nesbitt
<breece28117@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0AI made the first flight in my RV-8 l
ast Sunday morning.- Other than having a yaw to the left and one=0Acomm r
adio not working, the flight went well.- However, the first landing was n
ot so pretty.- On touchdown, the airplane became very=0Asquirrelly.- I
was all over the place - back=0Aand forth. -Let rudder - right rudder -
=0Aover correcting.- -I had been practicing in an RV-7 and had been=0Ad
oing good landings, so I thought I wouldn't have any problem landing the RV
-8.- I have a couple of thousand hours in tail draggers=0A- including abo
ut 600 hours in an L-19.- I was pretty excited making that first=0Alandin
g, so I thought maybe the poor handling was due to that.- On the next lan
ding, though, I realized that=0AI was having to put way too much pressure o
n the rudder pedals to get any=0Adirectional control.- The pedals were=0A
very hard to push and I was not keeping the airplane straight down the runw
ay. --The next two landings were not any better -=0Amaybe worse. -The
forth and last landing convinced=0Ame that -I might not be so lucky next
=0Atime. =0A>I'm not going to fly the airplane again until I am convinced
=0Athat I know what the problem is, and get it corrected.- Any suggestion
s or thoughts (other than to quit=0Aflying) would be appreciated.- I'm=0A
thinking about changing out the tailwheel assembly to see if that might=0Ah
elp.- =0A>-=0A>Breece Nesbitt=0A>N28117 (1.1 hour)=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
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| Subject: | Re: First Fllight |
Sticking brake??
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Breece Nesbitt <breece28117@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I made the first flight in my RV-8 last Sunday morning. Other than having
a yaw to the left and one comm radio not working, the flight went well. Ho
wever, the first landing was not so pretty. On touchdown, the airplane beca
me very squirrelly. I was all over the place - back and forth. Let rudder -
right rudder - over correcting. I had been practicing in an RV-7 and had b
een doing good landings, so I thought I wouldn't have any problem landing th
e RV-8. I have a couple of thousand hours in tail draggers - including abou
t 600 hours in an L-19. I was pretty excited making that first landing, so I
thought maybe the poor handling was due to that. On the next landing, thou
gh, I realized that I was having to put way too much pressure on the rudder p
edals to get any directional control. The pedals were very hard to push and
I was not keeping the airplane straight down the runway. The next two lan
dings were not any better - maybe worse. The forth and last landing convinc
ed me that I might not be so lucky next time.
> I'm not going to fly the airplane again until I am convinced that I know w
hat the problem is, and get it corrected. Any suggestions or thoughts (othe
r than to quit flying) would be appreciated. I'm thinking about changing ou
t the tailwheel assembly to see if that might help.
>
> Breece Nesbitt
> N28117 (1.1 hour)
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| Subject: | Re: First Fllight |
Too much slop in your tw linkage. Take out some links to verify. With tw in d
etent, u should have @ 1" play side to side on rudder.
Tw not locking on detent(nut too tight). Main wheel alignment. Did you greas
e assembly? Just some thoughts.
VinceH
RV8 N8432 105 hrs.
Sent from my iPod
On Sep 13, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Breece Nesbitt <breece28117@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I made the first flight in my RV-8 last Sunday morning. Other than having
a yaw to the left and one comm radio not working, the flight went well. Ho
wever, the first landing was not so pretty. On touchdown, the airplane beca
me very squirrelly. I was all over the place - back and forth. Let rudder -
right rudder - over correcting. I had been practicing in an RV-7 and had b
een doing good landings, so I thought I wouldn't have any problem landing th
e RV-8. I have a couple of thousand hours in tail draggers - including abou
t 600 hours in an L-19. I was pretty excited making that first landing, so I
thought maybe the poor handling was due to that. On the next landing, thou
gh, I realized that I was having to put way too much pressure on the rudder p
edals to get any directional control. The pedals were very hard to push and
I was not keeping the airplane straight down the runway. The next two lan
dings were not any better - maybe worse. The forth and last landing convinc
ed me that I might not be so lucky next time.
> I'm not going to fly the airplane again until I am convinced that I know w
hat the problem is, and get it corrected. Any suggestions or thoughts (othe
r than to quit flying) would be appreciated. I'm thinking about changing ou
t the tailwheel assembly to see if that might help.
>
> Breece Nesbitt
> N28117 (1.1 hour)
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