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     1. 10:36 AM - Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Matt Dralle)
     2. 12:51 PM - Re: RV-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Ralph Finch)
     3. 01:15 PM - Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Pascal)
     4. 04:37 PM - Re: Speaking of Vertical Power VP-200 and VP-X... (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... | 
      
      >At 09:17 PM 12/30/2011  Friday, you wrote:
      >Got the VP-200 for safety reasons and pre-VPX era. You may not need it, and that
      will free up that space for a IFR screen, if you wish. I will say that the
      safety features  that the VP uses for mode switches and engine alarms is great!
      >
      >Pascal
      
      
      Listers,
      
      I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200.  I wouldn't fly an Experimental
      without one.  Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all those switches
      and circuit breakers!  Nice.  Push that Green button once when you get
      in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and Off all the various
      circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode of flight.  Startup,
      Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc.  Its pretty darn cool.  I've got 172
      hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 both with VP-200 systems and have
      found it to work flawlessly.  If you're on the fence about buying one, don't
      be.  You'll love it.  Best money I've spent on both RVs, hands down.  See attached
      pictures of my VP-200 from both the RV-8 and RV-6.  The RV-8 has dual alternators
      for redundancy and this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the
      "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on the main display.
      
      Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software update for
      the VP-200 (from early December 2011).  It now supports full EMS data link from
      the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully automatic.  You also
      get some of the primary engine instrument display on the VP-200 screen as well
      as a myriad of visual and audible engine annunciators.  Works great.
      
      
      -
      Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
      
      RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
      http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
      http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
      http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
      Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
      
      RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
      http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
      Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... | 
      
      Matt, what do you think about the VP-X? It's a lot cheaper but doesn't have
      the flight modes or extra display and thus requires all the switches still
      (just no circuit breakers).
      
      Ralph Finch
      Davis
      
       Listers,
      >
      > I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200.  I wouldn't fly
      > an Experimental without one.  Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all
      > those switches and circuit breakers!  Nice.  Push that Green button once
      > when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and
      > Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode
      > of flight.  Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc.  Its
      > pretty darn cool.  I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6
      > both with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly.  If you're
      > on the fence about buying one, don't be.  You'll love it.  Best money I've
      > spent on both RVs, hands down.  See attached pictures of my VP-200 from
      > both the RV-8 and RV-6.  The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and
      > this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on
      > the main display.
      >
      > Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software
      > update for the VP-200 (from early December 2011).  It now supports full EMS
      > data link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully
      > automatic.  You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on
      > the VP-200 screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine
      > annunciators.  Works great.
      >
      >
      > -
      > Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
      >
      > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
      > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
      > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
      > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
      > Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
      >
      > RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
      > http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
      > Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
      > Mode
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... | 
      
      
      Matt;
      You are right on!
      I pressed Robert at Dynon and Marc at every flyin to get the implementation 
      of the software. Because of this I have been fortunate to get a early view 
      of it. It's remains BETA as far as I can tell . Data logging, not in the 
      Skyview yet, has worked fantastically for me with LOP ops; mode switching? 
      well, my wife wanted safety, doesn't get more safe than having that 
      "co-pilot" control each and every step for me. The fly off has been so much 
      easier with the VP-200, as I set what I want it to do at each mode on the 
      ground and it gets completed in the air so I dont need to think about it. I 
      also like the fact that my checklist is on the screen, so no pulling out the 
      paper list while flying, (ie- "runup mode" kicks in at 1700rpm and mag check 
      shows difference and results of check; "landing mode" determined by engine 
      information and checklist comes on, I use a button on my stick to 
      acknowledge the step and if I get distracted, well, I know where I left off 
      as it is still highlighted, so I can move on without missing a step- happens 
      when I use my paper checklist.The warnings for the engine info are also a 
      great safety item (not in the skyview yet either) when CHT's and EGT exceed 
      my POH numbers. Lets me focus on flying and not staring at my higher EGTs as 
      I go lower without thinking about the Mixture- good reminder that I need to 
      check something. It has not happened but if it ever did.. I have it now with 
      a female voice telling me "CHECK EGT.. CHECK EGT".
      It's a expensive investment, but it's a investment I never regretted, 
      especially now that it is doing everything I heard it could do.
      Dynon and Vertical Power really are customer focused companies. I wish Dynon 
      would move their capabilities for the Skyview along, and in time I believe 
      they will have the audio alarms and data logging, they have the VP-X 
      integration (extra charge applies) which removes the switches and gives that 
      extra space on the panel, but they will never have the mode changes seen in 
      the VP-200.
      There really is so much the VP-200 does for safety (keyless start, emergency 
      procedures, electrical triage when battery charge is decreasing (aka 
      alternator failure)etc) that it would take me a while to cover. If anyone is 
      wondering what it looks like- check out their Take a flight demo 
      http://www.verticalpower.com/Take-a-Flight/
      and their page.
      http://www.verticalpower.com/VP200.html
      
      This forum is to help others.. I preach Desser/Cee baileys because for 
      custom fit windows they are the best way to go, versus having to do all the 
      fitting one self and at the same price as Vans sells the pieces.. I gain 
      nothing with this company nor with telling you my experience with VP-200 
      other than giving my feedback.
      Hope it helps someone.
      Pascal
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Matt Dralle
      Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:32 AM
      ; rv7-list@matronics.com
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview...
      
      >At 09:17 PM 12/30/2011  Friday, you wrote:
      >Got the VP-200 for safety reasons and pre-VPX era. You may not need it, and 
      >that will free up that space for a IFR screen, if you wish. I will say that 
      >the safety features  that the VP uses for mode switches and engine alarms 
      >is great!
      >
      >Pascal
      
      
      Listers,
      
      I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200.  I wouldn't fly an 
      Experimental without one.  Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all 
      those switches and circuit breakers!  Nice.  Push that Green button once 
      when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and 
      Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode of 
      flight.  Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc.  Its pretty 
      darn cool.  I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 both 
      with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly.  If you're on the 
      fence about buying one, don't be.  You'll love it.  Best money I've spent on 
      both RVs, hands down.  See attached pictures of my VP-200 from both the RV-8 
      and RV-6.  The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and this is 
      supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on the main 
      display.
      
      Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software update 
      for the VP-200 (from early December 2011).  It now supports full EMS data 
      link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully automatic. 
      You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on the VP-200 
      screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine annunciators.  Works 
      great.
      
      
      -
      Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
      
      RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
      http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
      http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
      http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
      Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
      
      RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
      http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
      Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Speaking of Vertical Power VP-200 and VP-X... | 
      
      
      At 12:48 PM 12/31/2011  Saturday, Ralph Finch wrote:
      >Matt, what do you think about the VP-X? It's a lot cheaper but doesn't have the
      flight modes or extra display and thus requires all the switches still (just
      no circuit breakers).
      >
      >Ralph Finch
      >Davis
      
      
      The Vertical Power VP-X is definitely a step in the right direction for your typical
      Experimental aircraft electrical system.  It also allows you to use standard
      small signal switches for even the largest of current circuits which saves
      space, weight, and money.  If the VP-200 didn't exist, there is no question
      that I would use the VP-X for my Experimental nerve center.
      
      That being said, the VP-200 adds *so* much more functionality over the VP-X, I
      would always recommend it first.  The VP-200 truly infuses 21st century technology
      with our Experimental aircraft.  Given the quality and functionality it brings
      to the table, it is exceptionally well priced.  If I were on a tight budget,
      I would forgo a second GPS, Comm, or EFIS display before I would sacrifice
      the functionality provided by the VP-200.
      
      The VP-200 rates a 5 out of 5 in my opinion.
      
      ( BTW, I don't get a kick back from Vertical Power; I'm just a very happy, satisfied
      and *repeat* customer.  :-) )
      
      -
      Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
      
      RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
      http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
      http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
      http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
      Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
      
      RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
      http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
      Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode 
      
      
 
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