---------------------------------------------------------- RV8-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/31/11: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:36 AM - Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Matt Dralle) 2. 12:51 PM - Re: RV-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Ralph Finch) 3. 01:15 PM - Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... (Pascal) 4. 04:37 PM - Re: Speaking of Vertical Power VP-200 and VP-X... (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:29 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... >At 09:17 PM 12/30/2011 Friday, you wrote: >Got the VP-200 for safety reasons and pre-VPX era. You may not need it, and that will free up that space for a IFR screen, if you wish. I will say that the safety features that the VP uses for mode switches and engine alarms is great! > >Pascal Listers, I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly an Experimental without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all those switches and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode of flight. Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its pretty darn cool. I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 both with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly. If you're on the fence about buying one, don't be. You'll love it. Best money I've spent on both RVs, hands down. See attached pictures of my VP-200 from both the RV-8 and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on the main display. Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software update for the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS data link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully automatic. You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on the VP-200 screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine annunciators. Works great. - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:47 PM PST US From: Ralph Finch Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... Matt, what do you think about the VP-X? It's a lot cheaper but doesn't have the flight modes or extra display and thus requires all the switches still (just no circuit breakers). Ralph Finch Davis Listers, > > I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly > an Experimental without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all > those switches and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once > when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and > Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode > of flight. Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its > pretty darn cool. I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 > both with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly. If you're > on the fence about buying one, don't be. You'll love it. Best money I've > spent on both RVs, hands down. See attached pictures of my VP-200 from > both the RV-8 and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and > this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on > the main display. > > Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software > update for the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS > data link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully > automatic. You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on > the VP-200 screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine > annunciators. Works great. > > > - > Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle > > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" > http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log > Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer > Mode > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:27 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... Matt; You are right on! I pressed Robert at Dynon and Marc at every flyin to get the implementation of the software. Because of this I have been fortunate to get a early view of it. It's remains BETA as far as I can tell . Data logging, not in the Skyview yet, has worked fantastically for me with LOP ops; mode switching? well, my wife wanted safety, doesn't get more safe than having that "co-pilot" control each and every step for me. The fly off has been so much easier with the VP-200, as I set what I want it to do at each mode on the ground and it gets completed in the air so I dont need to think about it. I also like the fact that my checklist is on the screen, so no pulling out the paper list while flying, (ie- "runup mode" kicks in at 1700rpm and mag check shows difference and results of check; "landing mode" determined by engine information and checklist comes on, I use a button on my stick to acknowledge the step and if I get distracted, well, I know where I left off as it is still highlighted, so I can move on without missing a step- happens when I use my paper checklist.The warnings for the engine info are also a great safety item (not in the skyview yet either) when CHT's and EGT exceed my POH numbers. Lets me focus on flying and not staring at my higher EGTs as I go lower without thinking about the Mixture- good reminder that I need to check something. It has not happened but if it ever did.. I have it now with a female voice telling me "CHECK EGT.. CHECK EGT". It's a expensive investment, but it's a investment I never regretted, especially now that it is doing everything I heard it could do. Dynon and Vertical Power really are customer focused companies. I wish Dynon would move their capabilities for the Skyview along, and in time I believe they will have the audio alarms and data logging, they have the VP-X integration (extra charge applies) which removes the switches and gives that extra space on the panel, but they will never have the mode changes seen in the VP-200. There really is so much the VP-200 does for safety (keyless start, emergency procedures, electrical triage when battery charge is decreasing (aka alternator failure)etc) that it would take me a while to cover. If anyone is wondering what it looks like- check out their Take a flight demo http://www.verticalpower.com/Take-a-Flight/ and their page. http://www.verticalpower.com/VP200.html This forum is to help others.. I preach Desser/Cee baileys because for custom fit windows they are the best way to go, versus having to do all the fitting one self and at the same price as Vans sells the pieces.. I gain nothing with this company nor with telling you my experience with VP-200 other than giving my feedback. Hope it helps someone. Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Matt Dralle Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:32 AM ; rv7-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... >At 09:17 PM 12/30/2011 Friday, you wrote: >Got the VP-200 for safety reasons and pre-VPX era. You may not need it, and >that will free up that space for a IFR screen, if you wish. I will say that >the safety features that the VP uses for mode switches and engine alarms >is great! > >Pascal Listers, I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly an Experimental without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all those switches and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode of flight. Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its pretty darn cool. I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 both with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly. If you're on the fence about buying one, don't be. You'll love it. Best money I've spent on both RVs, hands down. See attached pictures of my VP-200 from both the RV-8 and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on the main display. Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software update for the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS data link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully automatic. You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on the VP-200 screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine annunciators. Works great. - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:20 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV8-List: Re: Speaking of Vertical Power VP-200 and VP-X... At 12:48 PM 12/31/2011 Saturday, Ralph Finch wrote: >Matt, what do you think about the VP-X? It's a lot cheaper but doesn't have the flight modes or extra display and thus requires all the switches still (just no circuit breakers). > >Ralph Finch >Davis The Vertical Power VP-X is definitely a step in the right direction for your typical Experimental aircraft electrical system. It also allows you to use standard small signal switches for even the largest of current circuits which saves space, weight, and money. If the VP-200 didn't exist, there is no question that I would use the VP-X for my Experimental nerve center. That being said, the VP-200 adds *so* much more functionality over the VP-X, I would always recommend it first. The VP-200 truly infuses 21st century technology with our Experimental aircraft. Given the quality and functionality it brings to the table, it is exceptionally well priced. If I were on a tight budget, I would forgo a second GPS, Comm, or EFIS display before I would sacrifice the functionality provided by the VP-200. The VP-200 rates a 5 out of 5 in my opinion. ( BTW, I don't get a kick back from Vertical Power; I'm just a very happy, satisfied and *repeat* customer. :-) ) - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... 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