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Wed 02/06/13


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     1. 07:19 PM - Skyview 5.1 to 5.0 Downgrade Successful... (Matt Dralle)
     2. 11:20 PM - Re: RV10-List: Skyview 5.1 to 5.0 Downgrade Successful... (Andrew Long - AANet)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:19:35 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Skyview 5.1 to 5.0 Downgrade Successful...
    Dear Listers, Good news. I was able to roll back to Skyview 5.0.0 using a special roll-back file supplied Mike Schofield at Dynon and carefully followed a procedure he outlined to accomplish the task at hand. I am again getting an EMS data feed from the Skyview to the VP-200. I haven't flown or started the engine yet, but I flipped on the Boost pump and saw fuel pressure so that's a good sign. Hopefully Vertical Power will have an update for the VP-200 soon... I had a long phone conversation with Mike Schofield, Marketing Manager at Dynon about the trials and tribulations of late. He was sympathetic to the plight of those of us utilizing their EMS protocol, but didn't seem like they were planning on really doing anything procedurally any different in the future with respect to not compromising the data integrity of the data format for devices such as the VP-200 in the field. I indicated that as a developer of products that might potentially use those protocols, I would be uncomfortable choosing to use those data feeds because of the lack of commitment to their stability and continuity by Dynon. I guess I got my point across. He went on to say that they hadn't intended for the protocol to be used by autonomous devices like the VP-200, but rather foresaw it simply being used as raw data that would be captured and used for post-analysis like with a spreadsheet. I countered that even in those applications, some consistency of format is expected and consumers of the data might very will write scripts and/or code to interpret the data and would be put off by constant format changes. Anyway, Dynon is a small company and they've got a lot on their plate and a lot of customers asking for a lot of different things. I think they get it, but it sometimes takes events like this to show them exactly why these things are important. - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 140+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode


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    Time: 11:20:31 PM PST US
    From: "Andrew Long - AANet" <along@aanet.com.au>
    Subject: RE: RV10-List: Skyview 5.1 to 5.0 Downgrade Successful...
    Hi All, I would also like to add that here in Australia there is a big discussion around IFR avionics, certification and experimental avionics. One of these areas is the software development protocols. It would be of benefit that a standard protocol was adapted that may enhance the ability of these instruments to be looked at more favourably when it comes to the approval processes in different countries. My view looking at the world at the moment is that Oz is not going to be the last to deal with these issues and the better they are managed, the better the outcomes. PS: This is in no way a dispersion on development, just how we can manage the perception of "Experimental" Andrew. www.ozrv10.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013 2:18 PM Subject: RV10-List: Skyview 5.1 to 5.0 Downgrade Successful... --> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, Good news. I was able to roll back to Skyview 5.0.0 using a special roll-back file supplied Mike Schofield at Dynon and carefully followed a procedure he outlined to accomplish the task at hand. I am again getting an EMS data feed from the Skyview to the VP-200. I haven't flown or started the engine yet, but I flipped on the Boost pump and saw fuel pressure so that's a good sign. Hopefully Vertical Power will have an update for the VP-200 soon... I had a long phone conversation with Mike Schofield, Marketing Manager at Dynon about the trials and tribulations of late. He was sympathetic to the plight of those of us utilizing their EMS protocol, but didn't seem like they were planning on really doing anything procedurally any different in the future with respect to not compromising the data integrity of the data format for devices such as the VP-200 in the field. I indicated that as a developer of products that might potentially use those protocols, I would be uncomfortable choosing to use those data feeds because of the lack of commitment to their stability and continuity by Dynon. I guess I got my point across. He went on to say that they hadn't intended for the protocol to be used by autonomous devices like the VP-200, but rather foresaw it simply being used as raw data that would be captured and used for post-analysis like with a spreadsheet. I countered that even in those applications, some consistency of for! mat is expected and consumers of the data might very will write scripts and/or code to interpret the data and would be put off by constant format changes. Anyway, Dynon is a small company and they've got a lot on their plate and a lot of customers asking for a lot of different things. I think they get it, but it sometimes takes events like this to show them exactly why these things are important. - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 140+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode




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