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1. 12:00 AM - Re: Riveting (Norman)
2. 12:01 AM - Re: canopy c660 and c759 help (steve dwyer)
3. 12:01 AM - All New List Digest Format!! (Matt Dralle)
4. 09:54 AM - K1100-08 platenuts (Steve Sampson)
5. 10:57 AM - Re: Riveting (Ken Moak)
6. 08:52 PM - Re: paint question (Gary Newsted)
7. 08:56 PM - K1100-08 platenuts (dean van winkle)
8. 10:25 PM - smart plugs (Gary)
9. 11:08 PM - New, NEW List Digest Format... (Matt Dralle)
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
> Well, my 9A project was going very well until I picked up the rivet gun.
> What is the correct air pressure needed for the gun (3X)?
> The bucking bar is making dings and scratches.
Wrap the end of your bucking bar with electrical tape. Run a length of
electrical tape down the inside of the rib/bulkhead next to where you will
be setting rivets.
It soulds like your gun is getting large pressure. 3/32 rivets with a 3X gun
should have pressure below 40 lbs. Your regulator could be kaput. Get a good
one. Are you using anything to relieve the line pressure as you back off the
regulator (unscrew the bolt)?
> The tool kit came with a regulator that I have attached to the gun, it has
a max notation with a clockwise arrow, screwing it in or out doesn't seem to
make any difference. Advise?
>
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
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| Subject: | Re: canopy c660 and c759 help |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "steve dwyer" <stdwyer@dreamscape.com>
Barry, You're correct the instructions are not right, they should read aft
edges instead.. I just finished the side skirts and I'm now starting the aft
skirts. I really recommend reading the past RVAITOR where Scott presents a
number of suggestions pretaining to the entire canopy installation he also
mentions several good tips in fabricating the skirts. Keep in touch on your
progress, good luck!!! Steve Dwyer 90219
----- Original Message -----
From: barry pote <barrypote@comcast.net>
Subject: RV9-List: canopy c660 and c759 help
> --> RV9-List message posted by: barry pote <barrypote@comcast.net>
>
> Hi guys!
> Once again I am nonplused bu the directions and plans. I think they are
> wrong. A little help from those that have been there, would be
> appreciated.
>
> I was making really great progress in general. I was fitting the c660,
> side canopy outside skirt, and its mate, the c759, inside top canopy
> skirt. These two items are meant to sandwich the plexiglas, at the top
> edge and be riveted to the square tube part of the canopy frame, an inch
> or so from their tops.
>
> Page 9-13 03/13/01 preview plans says: "Lay the c759 against the inside
> surface of the c660, lining up the forward and top edges of the two
> parts." I am having a problem with the word "forward" edge.
>
> If you look at drawing 43, detail e, you can see the small (3/16" notch,
> drawing 41), in the c759....the forward edge seems to end at the center
> line of the forward canopy frame bow. No way does that equate with
> 'lining up the c759 and c660 forward edges. Did I miss something?
>
> As an aside, the big notch in the aft end of the c759, what is it for?
> I can not see that in any drawing.
>
> Thanks,
> Barry Pote....lots of cutting on and holes in the canopy...no cracks
> yet.
>
>
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| Subject: | All New List Digest Format!! |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I've just finished up some awesome code that will completely change your
thinking about how email Digests should work and look! Yeah, I'm kind of
proud of it, that is true... :-)
What you'll be getting in the new List Digest message is the
following: The main message will contain the new text-based index I
introduced a few weeks back. But here's where things get
different... Instead of simply including all of the day's posts in line
within the message, there will now be included two enclosures - one with a
HTML encoded version of the Digests, and another with the usual text-only
version of the Digests.
I think you're really going to like the new HTML enclosure of the
Digests. All of the Indexes at the top are now hyperlinked to the actual
posts and there are hyperlinks at the top of each post that will:
o Take you back to the Index
o Take you to the next post
o Take you to the previous post
o Allow you to respond to the LIST regarding the message
o Allow you to respond directly to the POSTER regarding the message
You'll have to check it out to appreciate the full goodness of the new
format! :-)
The text-only version is basically exactly the same data that has been
normally sent in line within the message.
You'll also note that the filenames of the enclosures are such that they
can be conveniently placed in a personal "archive" directory for future
reference.
Hope you enjoy the new Digest format!!!
Oh, and don't forget about the Fund Raiser! :-)
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| Subject: | K1100-08 platenuts |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
I have just spent a frustrating hour trying to find the platenuts that the
wing hatches attach to, and come to the conclusion that I don't have any and
they were not on the inventory. Could someone please tell me the bag number
they should be in for a final check before I ask VANS for some.
Mine are QB wings though I doubt that makes a big difference - just I need
32 not 48. I havnt seen them used anywhere else on the kit I can think of.
Thanks, Steve.
#90360
N Yorks., UK
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--> RV9-List message posted by: Ken Moak <ken_moak@yahoo.com>
I had the same problem. Went to a friend that had
built a Glasstar and found the air pressure was way to
high. I was amazed and how slow and light the gun had
to hit to do the job. Hand positioning, and a good
teasing trigger can also be a factor.
The brass thing often referred to as a "regulator" can
help, but can hurt also. I found when I used it to do
the pressure reduction the gun hit too hard for the
first few blows (bounced) then dropped. Because it is
a glorified clog in the air flow the pressure
equalizes on both sides. When you pull the trigger
you get full line pressure then it restricts the flow.
I purchased a small regulator (Lowes, Home Depot,
Harbor Freight) and put a male hose connector on the
input side, a female hose connector on the downstream
side. This allows me to move it from place to place
and only regulate a single tool. Start at a pressure
of 40 - 50 PSI and fine tune. Open the brass
restrictor wide open while you practice of some scrap,
turn it down to fine tune after you find the right air
pressure. Too low will seem to work harden.
I lightly polished the sides of my bucking bars and
used tape at first. As I get better (and my buddy) I
am able to get away from the tape.
Watch the hand positioning also. It gets easier.
That is my 2 cents worth, hope it helps
Do Not Archive
--- Jim Hosie <jhosie4@attbi.com> wrote:
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Jim Hosie"
> <jhosie4@attbi.com>
>
> Well, my 9A project was going very well until I
> picked up the rivet gun.
> What is the correct air pressure needed for the gun
> (3X)?
> The bucking bar is making dings and scratches.
>
> The tool kit came with a regulator that I have
> attached to the gun, it has a max notation with a
> clockwise arrow, screwing it in or out doesn't seem
> to make any difference. Advise?
>
> Jim Hosie
> Folsom Ca
>
> N-9SU (res)
>
>
=====
Ken Moak #90608
Fort Worth, TX
Empennage, wings on order
ken_moak@yahoo.com
http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: paint question |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
I've always encouraged builders to give painting a chance. I think by the time
you've come through an entire build, with all the priming, you're fully primed
to spray real paint. I've been a die-hard Dupont fan my entire painting life,
more years than I care to think about. The products are excellent, albeit
expensive. I am using Imron, despite swearing that I'd never use it again
because of its toxicity. I broke old habbits and bought a new Citation
twin-turbo HVLP sprayer/respirator, so I figured I would use the best paint I
could afford, which is Imron. The HVLP gun does indeed spray warm paint, but
you can adjust for that by altering the distance from the surface so it lands
before flashing. Imron is so slow drying anyway, that it really doesn't matter
much. Centauri is cheaper and far eaiser to paint, but doesn't have the
durability of Imron. There are plenty of good videos available showing how to
paint your plane, but you can probably figure it out too as long as you're not
doing anything Picasso would dream of.
Good luck, Gary Newsted
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| Subject: | K1100-08 platenuts |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "dean van winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
To Steve Sampson
I built the standard RV-9A wing kit. Bag 1922-1 contained 210 each of K1100-08
platenuts and AN509-8R8 screws. You might check your inventory list for a bag
containing 32 AN 509-8R8 screws and perhaps the platenuts should have been
installed by the QB kit assembler. Just guessing.
Best Regards
Dean Van Winkle
90095
Fuselage
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
Jim.....regarding Smart Plugs.......
I had a set of smart plugs ordered for my 0-320 RV-9A. I attended 3 forums over
the past years at Arlington about the product, and visited with several people
involved in their development.
They work fine, but have 2 drawbacks that caused me to go a different route at
this point:
1. They won't tolerate lead in the fuel. It will deteriorate them just like the
catalytic converter in your car. Until we get our unleaded avgas, or have widespread
availability of mogas at airports, this won't work for me.
2. They are not 100% independent of the electrical system in an air-cooled aircraft
application. The heaters need to be on at very low power settings, or they
cool off and begin to misfire.
That said, they have been in use in several applications for years, and have great
efficiency, negligible emmissions, and are absolutely simple, reliable, and
extrememly light. Failure modes are hard to imagine. The will run on almost
any hydrocarbon fuel.
The engineer who invented them has been running them in his Mazda since the mid-1970's.
They put some significant time on a Comanche using Smart Plugs, and
flew a J-3 Cub on floats a number of hours. Their current major project is to
convert many thousands of portable generators to Smart Plugs for the military,
so they can run them on Jet fuel instead of gasoline. Their Continental 0-200
demo engine mounted on a test stand can be drained of car gas, and filled
with diesel, jet fuel kerosene, etc, and restarted.
They are self-timing, and the only variable for matching a plug to your engine
is the compression ratio. Compression, or combustion chamber pressure, is not
a factor. Only compression RATIO.
Last I heard they were $100 a piece, with wiring harness included.
Gary
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| Subject: | New, NEW List Digest Format... |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Okay, so I woke up this morning to an email box full of hate-mail about the
new List Digest format. I thought it was cool, but I guess not... Still,
it seemed like too much code to just throw out, so I've modified things a
little and I'm hoping everyone will be happy with the new, NEW
arrangement. Here's how it works now:
o The HTML and TXT enclosures aren't sent in the Digest any longer.
o URL Links to the HTML and TEXT versions of the day's Digests
will be found at the top of the digest email.
o The new Digest Index will be found at the top of the digest email
following the URL Links.
o The full digest text will then be found in the email as before.
o All of the previous Digests will now be available on line. The
URL for the main digest page is:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
From here, you can drill into the specific List Digest of interest.
o Both the HTML and TXT versions of the Digests can be found here.
o The List Message Trailer will contain a Link directly to the given
o Right now there's only one Digest shown, but each day there will
be another. They will be sorted with the newest at the top.
Left-hand column is the HTML version, right-hand column the TXT
version.
A couple people also complained that some messages in the HTML version were
just one long line that went off to the right forever and they hated
that. Come to think of it, this is also an issue in the Search Engine,
List Browser, and Archive Browser. Some email programs don't included hard
Returns at regular intervals and that's what causes this. I wrote a
program tonight that will automatically chop these long lines into 78
characters or less and wrap the rest of the line. After tonight's Archive
transfer, all of the Searching and Browsing tools shouldn't have the
problem any longer either. Woo hoo!
So, back to the new Digest format. What people are going to see in the
new, NEW Digest is a bit of verbiage at the top of the email describing the
URL links to the HTML and TXT on-line versions, followed by the Links,
followed by the day's Index, followed by the day's messages just as
before. Lines longer than 78 characters will also be automatically wrapped
onto the next line.
Hopefully this will be a more pleasing arrangement for everyone. Sorry to
get everybody so stirred up over the format change!
The List of Contributors is coming out tomorrow night... Still time to
make that Contribution! http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
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