---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/26/02: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:59 AM - Garmin 196 on Experimental Panel Builder (Nightingale Michael) 2. 10:15 AM - F-999 (Steve Sampson) 3. 10:15 AM - Drain Valves (Steve Sampson) 4. 10:29 AM - Re: Odessey PC680 tray (Steve Sampson) 5. 11:13 AM - Re: F-999 (Norman) 6. 11:45 AM - Re: F-999 (Tim) 7. 02:42 PM - Re: EIS (Fabian Lefler) 8. 05:10 PM - Re: Drain Valves (Richard E. Tasker) 9. 06:16 PM - Re: Drain Valves (Gary) 10. 06:43 PM - Re: Drain Valves (Cy Galley) 11. 07:03 PM - Re: Drain Valves (Ralph Cloud) 12. 08:20 PM - Re: Drain Valves (DThomas773@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:31 AM PST US From: "Nightingale Michael" "'rv-list@matronics.com'" Subject: RV9-List: Garmin 196 on Experimental Panel Builder --> RV9-List message posted by: "Nightingale Michael" Does anyone have access to someone at the Experimental Panel Builder Site? Is this Site still being supported? I have Emailed them several time over the last 3 months, to have the Garmin 196 ADDED to GPS Group, but it is still a NO SHOW. Mike RV-9A 90259 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:41 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV9-List: F-999 --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Can someone tell me if the F-999 are part of the fuse or finish kit. They are the pieces that close the gap between wing and fuse? Do you fabricate them or are they pre cut. Also, Do the platenuts and screws for them and the rubber strip come with fuse or finish kit? (From this you will gather I have none of the above.) Thanks, Steve. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:41 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV9-List: Drain Valves --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Seasons greetings to you all! Do the drain valves screw home or are they designed so the threads lock up so there is no leak. Mine only seem to screw in a short distance. Thanks, Steve. #90360 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:38 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Odessey PC680 tray --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Garry / Barry - thanks. I think the spelling of Odyssey was EXACTLY the problem! Best wishes for 2003, Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Subject: Re: RV9-List: Odessey PC680 tray --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" Steve......order this:ES PC680 INSTALL KIT BATTERY MOUNT ODYSSEY $50.00 Here is how you find that sort of thing: Go to http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/parts.txt and then use the "find on this page" option in the edit menu of your browser to search that list for what you want. But you have to spell "Odyssey" correctly! Happy Holidays to all y'all. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Sampson To: rv9-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: RV9-List: Odessey PC680 tray --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Anyone know how to order the Odessey battery tray from VANS for the forward firewall on the -9a? Steve #90360 --- Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/19/02 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:16 AM PST US From: "Norman" Subject: Re: RV9-List: F-999 --> RV9-List message posted by: "Norman" On my RV6A they came with the finish kit. Norman > Can someone tell me if the F-999 are part of the fuse or finish kit. They > are the pieces that close the gap between wing and fuse? Do you fabricate > them or are they pre cut. Also, Do the platenuts and screws for them and the > rubber strip come with fuse or finish kit? (From this you will gather I have > none of the above.) > > Thanks, Steve. > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:29 AM PST US From: Tim Subject: Re: RV9-List: F-999 --> RV9-List message posted by: Tim Steve Sampson wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > Can someone tell me if the F-999 are part of the fuse or finish kit. They > are the pieces that close the gap between wing and fuse? Do you fabricate > them or are they pre cut. Also, Do the platenuts and screws for them and the > rubber strip come with fuse or finish kit? (From this you will gather I have > none of the above.) The easiest way to find this out is to look in the preview plans parts index. F-999 (wing root fairing) is listed as being in the finishing kit. It is listed as "manufactured" which means it is a pre cut part (as opposed to "material" which would be a fabricate-it-yourself part). I don't have my finishing kit just yet, but I would hazard a guess that the platenuts, screws, etc come with that kit. I don't recall having any weather stripping in the fuse kit. If you don't have the preview plans, I would recommend getting them. I have found the parts index as well as the ability to read ahead to future tasks very handy. - Tim. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:42:52 PM PST US From: "Fabian Lefler" Subject: RV9-List: Re: EIS --> RV9-List message posted by: "Fabian Lefler" Ollie, There are a lot of users of the EIS monitor. Myself included. I believe just about all of us using an Eggenfellner Subaru are installing the EIS monitor and, in my opinion, it is the best bang for the buck. The only bad thing I could say is that it doesn't look as sophisticated as some of the more expensive monitor out there, but I guess you get what you pay for and in this case, you get a lot. To make the EIS monitor fit in a panel layout more gracefully, I decided to make an option for it for my Modular Panel. www.affordablepanels.com/new_products.html . (Sorry for the plug). I am only giving ou the link so that you can get some ideas in how to fit the look of the EIS in your layout. As a matter of fact, quite a few builders have e-mailed me telling me that they saw the EIS option on my website, and they are adapting a version of their own in Van's panel. Good luck! Regards, Fabian Lefler RV-9A 90292 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ollie Washburn" Subject: RV-List: EIS > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" > > Listers--- > I have checked the archives and don't see much listed on usage of > Grand Rapids Tech.(EIS) eng.monitor.Is anyone using the 4000 and if so what are your comments on it. > Ollie 6A Central Fl. > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:21 PM PST US From: "Richard E. Tasker" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Drain Valves --> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" They are 1/8 NPT - tapered pipe threads. They do only screw in a few threads. The "proper" (according to Parker) way to install pipe threads is to use a little thread sealer (teflon tape or teflon pipe dope) being careful not to allow any loose pieces to get inside the tank, screw the valve into the fitting by hand and then use a wrench to tighten it two more turns. Dick Tasker, 90573 Steve Sampson wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >Seasons greetings to you all! > >Do the drain valves screw home or are they designed so the threads lock up >so there is no leak. Mine only seem to screw in a short distance. > >Thanks, Steve. >#90360 > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:52 PM PST US From: "Gary" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Drain Valves --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" Do not use Teflon Tape on oil/gasoline fittings. The paste stuff will work, usually even if it has Teflon in it. Teflon tape will wait an inappropriate amount of time, then begin annoying leaks that slowly get worse. I had this happen on my fuel oil plumbing in my house. Every joint eventually failed with the tape. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard E. Tasker To: rv9-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Drain Valves --> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" They are 1/8 NPT - tapered pipe threads. They do only screw in a few threads. The "proper" (according to Parker) way to install pipe threads is to use a little thread sealer (teflon tape or teflon pipe dope) being careful not to allow any loose pieces to get inside the tank, screw the valve into the fitting by hand and then use a wrench to tighten it two more turns. Dick Tasker, 90573 Steve Sampson wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >Seasons greetings to you all! > >Do the drain valves screw home or are they designed so the threads lock up >so there is no leak. Mine only seem to screw in a short distance. > >Thanks, Steve. >#90360 > > --- Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/20/02 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:29 PM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Drain Valves --> RV9-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" NEVER EVER use Teflon tape on any system that has small orifices such as fuel, oil, hydraulic, or vacuum. The pieces that can get loose especially on the second screw in of a fitting can cause major problems. Even engine stoppage. It will even void the warrantee on your vacuum pump. The use of pipe dope even with Teflon powder is a much better solution. Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh Editor, EAA Safety Programs cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org Always looking for articles for the Experimenter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard E. Tasker" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Drain Valves > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" > > They are 1/8 NPT - tapered pipe threads. They do only screw in a few > threads. The "proper" (according to Parker) way to install pipe threads > is to use a little thread sealer (teflon tape or teflon pipe dope) being > careful not to allow any loose pieces to get inside the tank, screw the > valve into the fitting by hand and then use a wrench to tighten it two > more turns. > > Dick Tasker, 90573 > > Steve Sampson wrote: > > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > > >Seasons greetings to you all! > > > >Do the drain valves screw home or are they designed so the threads lock up > >so there is no leak. Mine only seem to screw in a short distance. > > > >Thanks, Steve. > >#90360 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:47 PM PST US From: "Ralph Cloud" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Drain Valves --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ralph Cloud" ...The "proper" (according to Parker) way to install pipe threads > is to use a little thread sealer (teflon tape or teflon pipe dope) being > careful not to allow any loose pieces to get inside the tank,... Be careful... I do not recommend using teflon tape in any fuel nor hydraulic (brakes) systems. It is amazing how that stuff can get into and plug orifices. Ralph Livermore - Wings OTW do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:06 PM PST US From: DThomas773@aol.com Subject: Re: RV9-List: Drain Valves --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com Hi Steve, When I installed my drain valves I coated the threads with Feel lube ( Aircraft Spruce,P/N 09-25300). It is a general purpose product originally used to lubricate fuel selector valves but is also good to seal threads, lubricate and seal gaskets etc. I used it to seal the gaskets for the fuel gauge sender units on the fuel tanks and when tested my tanks did not leak. Dennis Thomas RV-9 tail dragger/tip-up