---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/12/03: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:21 AM - Re: Wing Installation (Andy Karmy) 2. 06:50 AM - Re: Wing Installation (Steve Sampson) 3. 05:54 PM - Re: Wing Installation (Larry Perryman) 4. 06:45 PM - Re: Wing Installation (Dave Nicholson) 5. 07:00 PM - Re: Wing Installation (Larry Perryman) 6. 07:04 PM - Wing Installation (Larry Perryman) 7. 09:35 PM - Re: Wing Installation (Albert Gardner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:54 AM PST US From: "Andy Karmy" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing Installation --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" Congratulations Albert! I am looking forward to this very same task... estimated at 1 week to go for Airport move of 169AK! - Andy (prop mounted today) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Albert Gardner" >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" > >I took my RV-9A to the airport today and put the wings on. Not as big of a >job as I had anticipated. Took about 6 hours to put the bolts in which >includes a pizza break. I thought it looked nice in my garage but it looks >awesome at the airport. >Albert Gardner, Yuma, AZ >RV-9A: N872RV >Wings On > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:37 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing Installation --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Albert - I am close to test fitting the wings at home. Your email made me wonder where the time went. Is there a problem getting the bolts through or does that part go easily. Thnks, Steve. #90360 N Yorks., UK DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:14 PM PST US From: "Larry Perryman" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing Installation --> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry Perryman" Steve, They are very tight. You will need someone to hold up on the end of the wing while you tap them home. If you have a tri gear kit, two of the bolts have to go in from the back to the front because they are behind the gear leg bracket. It is a bit tight to get the nuts on them there. I used a long set of forceps that I found at a hardware store to hold the nut while I turned the bolt. (one place where this is the only way to get it done). Get a couple of hardware store bolts 3/8 x 5 or so inches long and grind the threads off to form a blunt tapered punch. They work well for aligning the holes and holding them there while you fit the "close tolerance" bolts. This is where someone wiggling the end of the wing will help get the first two bolts in. After that, you will not be able to move the wing. Now get those wings mounted and finish the planes so you can join our little club. Regards Larry Perryman N194DL Flying | Albert - I am close to test fitting the wings at home. Your email made me | wonder where the time went. Is there a problem getting the bolts through or | does that part go easily. Thnks, Steve. | | #90360 N Yorks., UK | | DO NOT ARCHIVE | ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:24 PM PST US From: "Dave Nicholson" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing Installation --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dave Nicholson" Hi Larry, Did you put any lubricant on the Spar Bolts for your wings? If so, what did you use? Dave 90347 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Perryman" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing Installation > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry Perryman" > > Steve, > > They are very tight. You will need someone to hold up on the end of the wing > while you tap them home. > > If you have a tri gear kit, two of the bolts have to go in from the back to > the front because they are behind the gear leg bracket. It is a bit tight to > get the nuts on them there. I used a long set of forceps that I found at a > hardware store to hold the nut while I turned the bolt. (one place where > this is the only way to get it done). > > Get a couple of hardware store bolts 3/8 x 5 or so inches long and grind the > threads off to form a blunt tapered punch. They work well for aligning the > holes and holding them there while you fit the "close tolerance" bolts. > > This is where someone wiggling the end of the wing will help get the first > two bolts in. After that, you will not be able to move the wing. > > Now get those wings mounted and finish the planes so you can join our little > club. > Regards > Larry Perryman ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:04 PM PST US From: "Larry Perryman" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing Installation --> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry Perryman" I think that I used WD-40 since my fuel lube had not come in then. Any good non corrosive grease should work. Regards Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Nicholson" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing Installation | --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dave Nicholson" | | Hi Larry, | | Did you put any lubricant on the Spar Bolts for your wings? | | If so, what did you use? | | Dave | 90347 | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Larry Perryman" | To: | Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing Installation | | | > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry Perryman" | | > | > Steve, | > | > They are very tight. You will need someone to hold up on the end of the | wing | > while you tap them home. | > | > If you have a tri gear kit, two of the bolts have to go in from the back | to | > the front because they are behind the gear leg bracket. It is a bit tight | to | > get the nuts on them there. I used a long set of forceps that I found at a | > hardware store to hold the nut while I turned the bolt. (one place where | > this is the only way to get it done). | > | > Get a couple of hardware store bolts 3/8 x 5 or so inches long and grind | the | > threads off to form a blunt tapered punch. They work well for aligning the | > holes and holding them there while you fit the "close tolerance" bolts. | > | > This is where someone wiggling the end of the wing will help get the first | > two bolts in. After that, you will not be able to move the wing. | > | > Now get those wings mounted and finish the planes so you can join our | little | > club. | > Regards | > Larry Perryman | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:41 PM PST US From: "Larry Perryman" Subject: RV9-List: Wing Installation --> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry Perryman" To all you folks installing wings: Please put in the plate nuts in the holes that you skipped on the inboard edge of the wing. Remember every third rivet that you left out for no apparent reason? It is very hard to put them in once the wings are installed. Regards Larry Perryman N194DL ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:59 PM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing Installation --> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" Several things regarding wing installation: A) Although Dwg shows all spar bolts with the nuts forward, it's only really necessary on the bottom bolts although I installed all of them pointing forward. B) Check your wings bolts carefully, 2 of mine had a much tighter fit than the others and were much harder to install. Fortunatly they were bolts going in the top rather than the bottom. C)Check the fit of all of the bolts in both the wing and the center spar holes to make sure they will go in. Many have found that the landing gear weldment holes need to be slightly enlarged so that the threads don't get banged up when the bolt goes through them. If I was doing it again I would bolt the landing gear weldment on the center spar and do a trial fit of the bolts through the holes long before I closed up the cabin area. D) I coated all the bolts with anti-seize and ran them through the center spar holes as well as the wing spar holes before we set the wing in place. In most cases bolts that were a tight fit loosened up by just placing them in the wing or center spar hole and doing some twisting and turning. E) Once the holes were lubed with anti=seize and the bolts would slip in, we put the wing in place and held it with some regular bolts that had the threads ground down so as to act as loose fitting pins. We then made sure that the close bolt was well lubed with anti-seize then dipped it in light oil and slipped/pushed/tapped/twisted/cussed it in place. After you get a couple of them in the rest are fairly easy except for the bottom nuts inside the landing gear weldment. One or two guys out on the wing to do a little jiggling makes it work. F) Make sure you ply the work crew with pizza and a suitable beverage in order to keep them on the job until the end. Keep on trucking, the end is in sight. Albert Gardner, Yuma, AZ RV-9A: N872RV