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1. 08:50 AM - New books for Homebuilders (sonja.englert@juno.com)
2. 11:18 AM - POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK (KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com)
3. 11:27 AM - Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK (Mark Schrimmer)
4. 11:53 AM - Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK (John Kerr)
5. 01:33 PM - Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK (Larry PERRYMAN)
6. 01:39 PM - Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK (BFlood@sauer-danfoss.com)
7. 05:28 PM - Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK (Curt Hoffman)
8. 06:24 PM - Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK (DThomas773@aol.com)
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| Subject: | New books for Homebuilders |
--> RV9-List message posted by: sonja.englert@juno.com
Hi everyone,
I would like to introduce myself to this group. I am an aeronautical engineer,
pilot, airplane homebuilder and writer. I have written 3 new books for airplane
homebuilders, which you can check out on my web page www.caroengineering.com.
They are mainly for airplane homebuilders, but should be of interest to anyone
who wants to install engines, work with composites or flight test an airplane.
Cheers,
Sonja Englert
www.caroengineering.com
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| Subject: | POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK |
--> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
I'M UNABLE TO USE MY POP-RIVETER TO GET THE ATTACH ANGLES ON THE
THE TANK ASSY. I AM FITTING THE TANK TO TO SPAR TO DRILL THE SPAR/ANGLE
SCREW HOLES. CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND ANOTHER WAY OR A RIVETER THAT CAN HANDLE
THE TIGHT SPACE ON THE ATTACH ANGLE.
THANKS, DAVID MORGAN #90079
DENVER,COLO
Q/B FUSE. ORDERED
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| Subject: | Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
on 1/15/03 11:17 AM, KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com at KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
>
> I'M UNABLE TO USE MY POP-RIVETER TO GET THE ATTACH ANGLES ON THE
> THE TANK ASSY. I AM FITTING THE TANK TO TO SPAR TO DRILL THE SPAR/ANGLE
> SCREW HOLES. CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND ANOTHER WAY OR A RIVETER THAT CAN HANDLE
> THE TIGHT SPACE ON THE ATTACH ANGLE.
>
> THANKS, DAVID MORGAN #90079
>
> DENVER,COLO
>
>
> Q/B FUSE. ORDERED
>
>
David,
If I remember correctly, you may have to grind away part of your pop riveter
to get it to fit. Many pop riveters are too wide. There is a picture of a
modified pop riveter in the instructions.
Mark Schrimmer
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| Subject: | Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "John Kerr" <kerrjohna@mtwest.net>
I could not locate a picture of a modified pop rivet tool. Do you have a
reference #?
John Kerr-wing kit scheduled for delivery 1/17/03
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Schrimmer" <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
>
> on 1/15/03 11:17 AM, KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com at KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
> >
> > I'M UNABLE TO USE MY POP-RIVETER TO GET THE ATTACH ANGLES ON THE
> > THE TANK ASSY. I AM FITTING THE TANK TO TO SPAR TO DRILL THE SPAR/ANGLE
> > SCREW HOLES. CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND ANOTHER WAY OR A RIVETER THAT CAN
HANDLE
> > THE TIGHT SPACE ON THE ATTACH ANGLE.
> >
> > THANKS, DAVID MORGAN #90079
> >
> > DENVER,COLO
> >
> >
> > Q/B FUSE. ORDERED
> >
> >
> David,
>
> If I remember correctly, you may have to grind away part of your pop
riveter
> to get it to fit. Many pop riveters are too wide. There is a picture of a
> modified pop riveter in the instructions.
>
> Mark Schrimmer
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK |
01/15/2003 10:33:04 PM,
Serialize complete at 01/15/2003 10:33:04 PM
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry PERRYMAN" <larry.perryman@atofina.com>
John,
The picture is in the instructions section of the manual from Vans. You
get a cheap right angle pop rivet gun and grind the side opposite the
handles down until you can get it to fit at an angle down by the attach
brackets. A belt sander works quite well on this. . you want to use a
cheap gun since it is about a throw away after the grind job.
Regards,
Larry Perryman
John Kerr <kerrjohna@mtwest.net>
01/15/2003 02:16 PM
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Subject: Re: RV9-List: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK
--> RV9-List message posted by: "John Kerr" <kerrjohna@mtwest.net>
I could not locate a picture of a modified pop rivet tool. Do you have a
reference #?
John Kerr-wing kit scheduled for delivery 1/17/03
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Schrimmer" <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
>
> on 1/15/03 11:17 AM, KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com at KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
> >
> > I'M UNABLE TO USE MY POP-RIVETER TO GET THE ATTACH ANGLES ON THE
> > THE TANK ASSY. I AM FITTING THE TANK TO TO SPAR TO DRILL THE
SPAR/ANGLE
> > SCREW HOLES. CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND ANOTHER WAY OR A RIVETER THAT CAN
HANDLE
> > THE TIGHT SPACE ON THE ATTACH ANGLE.
> >
> > THANKS, DAVID MORGAN #90079
> >
> > DENVER,COLO
> >
> >
> > Q/B FUSE. ORDERED
> >
> >
> David,
>
> If I remember correctly, you may have to grind away part of your pop
riveter
> to get it to fit. Many pop riveters are too wide. There is a picture of
a
> modified pop riveter in the instructions.
>
> Mark Schrimmer
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK |
01/15/2003 03:39:17 PM
--> RV9-List message posted by: BFlood@Sauer-Danfoss.com
David, I just finished my tank. All you need to do is buy the cheapest pop
rivet tool you can find and grind clearance on the head. The depth of the
grind will depend on the position of the through holes in the angles. The
length of the grind will be slightly longer than the height of the attach
angle. The grind will be in the axis of the rivet center line only off set
to one side to make clearance for the tool. When you finish grinding you
will be able to see all the pats inside the rivet tool head moving. It is
probably best to disassemble the tool before grinding but then you have to
debur carefully so it will fit back together. I was pretty worried that I
would destroy my $12 sears rivet tool with the amount of grinding I needed
to do but it works better than ever in it's modified form. Good luck.
Bryan Flood
--> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
I'M UNABLE TO USE MY POP-RIVETER TO GET THE ATTACH ANGLES ON
THE
THE TANK ASSY. I AM FITTING THE TANK TO TO SPAR TO DRILL THE SPAR/ANGLE
SCREW HOLES. CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND ANOTHER WAY OR A RIVETER THAT CAN
HANDLE
THE TIGHT SPACE ON THE ATTACH ANGLE.
THANKS, DAVID MORGAN #90079
DENVER,COLO
Q/B FUSE. ORDERED
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| Subject: | Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
One watch out- I ground mine down some years ago when I was working on my
first kit. I continued to use the modified pop rivet gun over the years and
when I went to work on the tank on my -9 it wouldn't grab a rivet. Turns out
that the inside grabber thing wore through the part I ground down enough
that it would no longer compress enough on the stem to grab it. I had to go
buy another pop riveter and grind that one too.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings
1968 Mustang 302 convertible
Piper Cherokee N5320W
----- Original Message -----
From: <BFlood@sauer-danfoss.com>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK
> --> RV9-List message posted by: BFlood@Sauer-Danfoss.com
>
>
> David, I just finished my tank. All you need to do is buy the cheapest pop
> rivet tool you can find and grind clearance on the head. The depth of the
> grind will depend on the position of the through holes in the angles. The
> length of the grind will be slightly longer than the height of the attach
> angle. The grind will be in the axis of the rivet center line only off set
> to one side to make clearance for the tool. When you finish grinding you
> will be able to see all the pats inside the rivet tool head moving. It is
> probably best to disassemble the tool before grinding but then you have to
> debur carefully so it will fit back together. I was pretty worried that I
> would destroy my $12 sears rivet tool with the amount of grinding I needed
> to do but it works better than ever in it's modified form. Good luck.
>
> Bryan Flood
>
>
> --> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
>
> I'M UNABLE TO USE MY POP-RIVETER TO GET THE ATTACH ANGLES ON
> THE
> THE TANK ASSY. I AM FITTING THE TANK TO TO SPAR TO DRILL THE SPAR/ANGLE
> SCREW HOLES. CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND ANOTHER WAY OR A RIVETER THAT CAN
> HANDLE
> THE TIGHT SPACE ON THE ATTACH ANGLE.
>
> THANKS, DAVID MORGAN #90079
>
> DENVER,COLO
>
>
> Q/B FUSE. ORDERED
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: POP-RIVETING THE ATTACH ANGLES TO THE TANK |
--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
Hi Dave,
You seem to have all the posts and information you need but I'll throw in my
2 cents worth anyway. I just found an old pop riveting tool at a yard sale,
stuck the front side on a grinding wheel on a bench grinder and ground away.
I went at least 1/3 of the way through the main head of the tool and it still
works great. I think it was pictured in the early plans but for some reason
eliminated in later printings.
Good Luck!
Dennis Thomas
RV9-taildragger/tip up
picking up the fuselage next week
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