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1. 02:45 AM - Re: PROSEALING THE TANKS (Joe Wiza)
2. 02:48 AM - proseal (Joe Wiza)
3. 04:06 AM - Re: PROSEALING THE TANKS (Jerry Calvert)
4. 06:53 AM - Re: PROSEALING THE TANKS (Larry PERRYMAN)
5. 09:33 AM - Re: proseal (Gene)
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| Subject: | Re: PROSEALING THE TANKS |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com>
I dont think so when the proseal sets up you would need a jack hamer to
remove the clecos.
Joe RV9A awaiting emp
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:03:28 EST KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com writes:
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> AFTER REVIEWING THE ARCHIVES, SOMEONE PROSEALED , CLECOED,
> AND LET THE
> TANK SIT FOR SOME TIME. HE LATER RIVETED AND CLAIMED NO LEAKS. I
> APPOLGIZE
> FOR NOT ATTRIBUTING THIS PROPERLY TO THE WRITER. HAS ANYONE ELSE
> DONE THIS
> AND WHAT WAS THEIR OUTCOME?
> IS PROSEAL PART OF THE PACKAGE FROM VANS (ALREADY PREPAID)?
> HOW LONG
> DOES IT LAST UNOPENED OR AFTER IT BEEN OPENED?
> I'M PLANNING TO DO EACH TANK SEPARATLY. ANY WORDS FO WISDOM
> ARE
> APPRECIATED.
> ORDERED Q/B FUSELAGE, GAD ZOOKS IT WON'T GET HERE TIL OCT !
>
> THANKS, DAVID
> MORGAN,
> 90079, DENVER
>
> KIKIDEEMAX@AOL.COM
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--> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com>
Can it be bought in measurable ratios I had a time getting the right
volume ratio on my RV6A
JoeRV9A
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| Subject: | Re: PROSEALING THE TANKS |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
I would not recommend doing it that way. During the riveting process, the
proseal oozzes under and seals the rivet. I would think also that the
riveting process may even break the seal if done after the proseal is dry.
Proseal doesn't come with the kit, but Van's carries it along with other
vendors.
On measuring it...I made a fancy aparatus to measure the weight and soon
found out that I could eyeball it once I knew what the proper proportions
looked like . Mix small amounts at a time. A good gauge for this amount has
been to mix a glob about the size of a golf ball.
As soon as the baffle is attached, put saran wrap on the spar and go ahead
and screw tank to wing and let it cure in place for a few days ...in perfect
positon!
Jerry Calvert
Edmond Ok
RV6 N296JC(res)
----- Original Message -----
From: <KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com>
Subject: RV9-List: PROSEALING THE TANKS
> --> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
>
> AFTER REVIEWING THE ARCHIVES, SOMEONE PROSEALED , CLECOED, AND LET
THE
> TANK SIT FOR SOME TIME. HE LATER RIVETED AND CLAIMED NO LEAKS. I
APPOLGIZE
> FOR NOT ATTRIBUTING THIS PROPERLY TO THE WRITER. HAS ANYONE ELSE DONE
THIS
> AND WHAT WAS THEIR OUTCOME?
> IS PROSEAL PART OF THE PACKAGE FROM VANS (ALREADY PREPAID)? HOW
LONG
> DOES IT LAST UNOPENED OR AFTER IT BEEN OPENED?
> I'M PLANNING TO DO EACH TANK SEPARATLY. ANY WORDS FO WISDOM ARE
> APPRECIATED.
> ORDERED Q/B FUSELAGE, GAD ZOOKS IT WON'T GET HERE TIL OCT !
>
> THANKS, DAVID MORGAN,
> 90079, DENVER
>
> KIKIDEEMAX@AOL.COM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: PROSEALING THE TANKS |
01/31/2003 03:53:04 PM,
Serialize complete at 01/31/2003 03:53:04 PM
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry PERRYMAN" <larry.perryman@atofina.com>
David,
The recommended shelf life of ProSeal is 6 months. I have heard of people
keeping it longer and it working well. ProSeal is not included in the
standard package. It is available through most parts houses.
If I remember correctly, those that used clecos to let the proseal cure,
put a bit more under the rivet to guarantee a seal there also. It is not
that much of a problem either way. Just keep a jar of cleaner handy and
wipe off tools often. I did my tanks in 3-4 sessions each of about 30
minutes.
1. I riveted the ribs to the skin on the flat side of the tank.
2. Inserted the tank into the cradles
3. Rivet the curved side to the skin.
4. install and rivet the back tank baffle
Try a dry assembly of the tank with clecos first to see if you like this
procedure for putting the tanks together.
The other method of doing the tanks is to put the skin in the cradle and
then force the ribs into place. Start in the center and work outwards.
Move the cradles in or out to give you enough play to insert the ribs.
Like everything else on the plane, the second one will be easier than the
first. The job is not as bad as it is made out to be. Just wear old
clothes because it will get everywhere and does not come out. Heavy hand
lotion on all exposed skin will also help. Get rubber gloves from the
medical section at WalMart or a drug store. The gloves sold at most
hardware stores are not tough enough for a lot of the jobs on the plane.
If you think that there will be 6 months or more between the time you plan
to finish the wings and the delivery time for the quick build fuselage,
you may want to think about ordering a standard build fuselage and use the
time to build it out. Use the extra dough for instruments or interior
upgrades.
Regards,
Larry Perryman
N194DL 90288
KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
01/30/2003 11:03 PM
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--> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com
AFTER REVIEWING THE ARCHIVES, SOMEONE PROSEALED , CLECOED, AND LET
THE
TANK SIT FOR SOME TIME. HE LATER RIVETED AND CLAIMED NO LEAKS. I
APPOLGIZE
FOR NOT ATTRIBUTING THIS PROPERLY TO THE WRITER. HAS ANYONE ELSE DONE
THIS
AND WHAT WAS THEIR OUTCOME?
IS PROSEAL PART OF THE PACKAGE FROM VANS (ALREADY PREPAID)? HOW
LONG
DOES IT LAST UNOPENED OR AFTER IT BEEN OPENED?
I'M PLANNING TO DO EACH TANK SEPARATLY. ANY WORDS FO WISDOM ARE
APPRECIATED.
ORDERED Q/B FUSELAGE, GAD ZOOKS IT WON'T GET HERE TIL OCT !
THANKS, DAVID MORGAN,
90079, DENVER
KIKIDEEMAX@AOL.COM
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gene" <gene@nvaircraft.com>
Vans also sells pro-seal in cartridges, you will need a dispenser. It is
only B-1/2 meaning it has a half hour working life.(the tube I bought was
sttill workable after two hours,) It is available in longer life
cartridges at Aircraft Spruce. I bought a postal scale for 39.00 it is very
easy to then measure out the portions. I also used a catheter syringe that I
bought at a local farm and feed store for dispenseing the stuff, if you
put a thumb or finger from your rubber glove over the plunger then you can
re-use the syringe as the tube is fairly easy to clean.
Gene
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