---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/09/03: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:57 AM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (Steve Sampson) 2. 08:41 AM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (Andy Karmy) 3. 09:58 AM - Things I'd do differently next time (Albert Gardner) 4. 02:36 PM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (Steve Sampson) 5. 03:02 PM - mISSMATCH (Joe Wiza) 6. 05:01 PM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (Streiker, Stephen D (Steve), WHLSL) 7. 07:18 PM - Re: Compressor Sump drains (Gary Newsted) 8. 07:22 PM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (Ralph Cloud) 9. 07:23 PM - Re: mISSMATCH (Ralph Cloud) 10. 08:10 PM - Re: Compressor Sump drains (MNHDrider@aol.com) 11. 08:41 PM - Re: Compressor Sump drains (Gary Newsted) 12. 09:41 PM - Re: Compressor Sump drains (Dave Nicholson) 13. 11:12 PM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (Gary) 14. 11:12 PM - Re: Aileron Lock Nut (Gary) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:57:28 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Albert - Thanks. Well I will go and whack it some more, but I think its going to require a bigger hammer than I posesss! Steve. PS Its ally. For the person who asked. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" Steve: Do this one when your wings are on for the trial fitting. Clamp the bracket in a vise and whack it with a hammer and see if it fits, If not, whack it again. The band will occur in the area away from the corner and all it needs is a small amount of bend. Albert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > Sorry guys. Me again. I seem to ask lots of dumb questions. > > The F996tank attach brackets are meant to have a 2.7degree bend put in them. > How the hell does one do this. (Despite my surname) I am finding it quite > impossible to move this gauge of metal. Technique? > > Thanks, Steve. > DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:47 AM PST US From: "Andy Karmy" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" I also was able to move them nicely with a very large adjustable cressent wrench (if they have those by that name in England...) You just hold in a vice and lean on the wrench. - Andy (and they even fit when finished) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Steve Sampson" >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >Albert - Thanks. Well I will go and whack it some more, but I think its >going to require a bigger hammer than I posesss! Steve. > >PS Its ally. For the person who asked. > > -----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner >Sent: 09 February 2003 00:59 >To: rv9-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" > > >Steve: >Do this one when your wings are on for the trial fitting. Clamp the bracket >in a vise and whack it with a hammer and see if it fits, If not, whack it >again. The band will occur in the area away from the corner and all it needs >is a small amount of bend. >Albert >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Sampson" >To: >Subject: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >> >> Sorry guys. Me again. I seem to ask lots of dumb questions. >> >> The F996tank attach brackets are meant to have a 2.7degree bend put in >them. >> How the hell does one do this. (Despite my surname) I am finding it quite >> impossible to move this gauge of metal. Technique? >> >> Thanks, Steve. >> >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:52 AM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RV9-List: Things I'd do differently next time --> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" There is another RV-9A builder here in Yuma that has left his forward side skins off far later in the building stage than the manual calls for. They are ready to rivet and he plans to take care not to wait too long. His is working on the wiring, panel, and rudder pedals and I am amazed how much easier it makes all of those tasks. I wish I had done the same. Albert Gardner, Yuma, AZ N872RV Airworthiness inspection in 6 days! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:52 PM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Additional whacking did NOT work! I think larger tools are needed. An excuse to fly over to my local maint shop. A cressent wrench!? If we have them I don't know them by that name, but I can guess. The problem is the brackets are made of aluminium when they get here. Thanks Andy! Steve. PS I mounted the first flap since I could not bend the brackets. How far off the underside of the fuse should it be in the 'up ' position? I could not find this specified. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Karmy Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" I also was able to move them nicely with a very large adjustable cressent wrench (if they have those by that name in England...) You just hold in a vice and lean on the wrench. - Andy (and they even fit when finished) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Steve Sampson" >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >Albert - Thanks. Well I will go and whack it some more, but I think its >going to require a bigger hammer than I posesss! Steve. > >PS Its ally. For the person who asked. > > -----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner >Sent: 09 February 2003 00:59 >To: rv9-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" > > >Steve: >Do this one when your wings are on for the trial fitting. Clamp the bracket >in a vise and whack it with a hammer and see if it fits, If not, whack it >again. The band will occur in the area away from the corner and all it needs >is a small amount of bend. >Albert >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Sampson" >To: >Subject: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >> >> Sorry guys. Me again. I seem to ask lots of dumb questions. >> >> The F996tank attach brackets are meant to have a 2.7degree bend put in >them. >> How the hell does one do this. (Despite my surname) I am finding it quite >> impossible to move this gauge of metal. Technique? >> >> Thanks, Steve. >> >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:02:48 PM PST US Subject: RV9-List: mISSMATCH From: Joe Wiza --> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza hAS ANYONE HAD A PROBLEM MATCHING UP THE HOLES IN STIFFNERS (915) WITH THE 901 L/R SKINS OR AM i JUST LOSING IT.????? JOE rv9a ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:31 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. From: "Streiker, Stephen D (Steve), WHLSL" --> RV9-List message posted by: "Streiker, Stephen D (Steve), WHLSL" They call them adjustable spanners over there Stephen D. Streiker Global Account Manager - AT&T Service Provider Markets 32 Avenue of the Americas - W616 - New York, NY 10013 Phone: 212-387-5355 Fax: 360-397-7362 Mobile: 917-865-9875 -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sampson [mailto:SSampson.SLN21@london.edu] Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Additional whacking did NOT work! I think larger tools are needed. An excuse to fly over to my local maint shop. A cressent wrench!? If we have them I don't know them by that name, but I can guess. The problem is the brackets are made of aluminium when they get here. Thanks Andy! Steve. PS I mounted the first flap since I could not bend the brackets. How far off the underside of the fuse should it be in the 'up ' position? I could not find this specified. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Karmy Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" I also was able to move them nicely with a very large adjustable cressent wrench (if they have those by that name in England...) You just hold in a vice and lean on the wrench. - Andy (and they even fit when finished) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Steve Sampson" >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >Albert - Thanks. Well I will go and whack it some more, but I think its >going to require a bigger hammer than I posesss! Steve. > >PS Its ally. For the person who asked. > > -----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner >Sent: 09 February 2003 00:59 >To: rv9-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" > > >Steve: >Do this one when your wings are on for the trial fitting. Clamp the bracket >in a vise and whack it with a hammer and see if it fits, If not, whack it >again. The band will occur in the area away from the corner and all it needs >is a small amount of bend. >Albert >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Sampson" >To: >Subject: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >> >> Sorry guys. Me again. I seem to ask lots of dumb questions. >> >> The F996tank attach brackets are meant to have a 2.7degree bend put in >them. >> How the hell does one do this. (Despite my surname) I am finding it quite >> impossible to move this gauge of metal. Technique? >> >> Thanks, Steve. >> >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:14 PM PST US From: "Gary Newsted" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Compressor Sump drains --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" Northern Products catalog carries the automatic compressor sump drains. You should be able to find these from most places that carry large compressors. They replace the standard drain valve. I think I paid about $5, but that was about 10 years ago, so they're probably $500 now ; ) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:44 PM PST US From: "Ralph Cloud" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ralph Cloud" try an adjustable spanner! Ralph Livermore wing kit in crate do not archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Sampson > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:11 PM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > > Additional whacking did NOT work! I think larger tools are > needed. An excuse > to fly over to my local maint shop. A cressent wrench!? If we have them I > don't know them by that name, but I can guess. The problem is the brackets > are made of aluminium when they get here. > > Thanks Andy! Steve. > > PS I mounted the first flap since I could not bend the brackets. > How far off > the underside of the fuse should it be in the 'up ' position? I could not > find this specified. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Karmy > Sent: 09 February 2003 16:48 > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" > > I also was able to move them nicely with a very large adjustable cressent > wrench (if they have those by that name in England...) You just hold in a > vice and lean on the wrench. > > - Andy (and they even fit when finished) > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Steve Sampson" > Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:30:37 -0000 > > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > > > >Albert - Thanks. Well I will go and whack it some more, but I think its > >going to require a bigger hammer than I posesss! Steve. > > > >PS Its ally. For the person who asked. > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > >[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner > >Sent: 09 February 2003 00:59 > >To: rv9-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > > > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" > > > > > >Steve: > >Do this one when your wings are on for the trial fitting. Clamp > the bracket > >in a vise and whack it with a hammer and see if it fits, If not, whack it > >again. The band will occur in the area away from the corner and all it > needs > >is a small amount of bend. > >Albert > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Steve Sampson" > >To: > >Subject: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. > > > > > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > > >> > >> Sorry guys. Me again. I seem to ask lots of dumb questions. > >> > >> The F996tank attach brackets are meant to have a 2.7degree bend put in > >them. > >> How the hell does one do this. (Despite my surname) I am > finding it quite > >> impossible to move this gauge of metal. Technique? > >> > >> Thanks, Steve. > >> > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:21 PM PST US From: "Ralph Cloud" Subject: RE: RV9-List: mISSMATCH --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ralph Cloud" You have to start from the rear holes on each and cut of the front. The hole spacing is the same starting from the rear of the stiffner (note the rear is the one with the most taper as indicated by the half hole on the side without the rivet holes about 5" from the cut marks. Ralph Livermore Wings in crate still do not archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Joe Wiza > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:56 PM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV9-List: mISSMATCH > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza > > hAS ANYONE HAD A PROBLEM MATCHING UP THE HOLES IN STIFFNERS (915) WITH > THE 901 L/R SKINS OR AM i JUST LOSING IT.????? > > > JOE rv9a > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:10:52 PM PST US From: MNHDrider@aol.com Subject: Re: RV9-List: Compressor Sump drains --> RV9-List message posted by: MNHDrider@aol.com Also any heavy duty truck repair shop will have spring loaded drain valves with a cable attached, just pull on it to drain water, Steve. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:57 PM PST US From: "Gary Newsted" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Compressor Sump drains --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" Hey, I like that even better! The problem with my automatic drain valve is that I never turn the compressor off, so it hardly ever drains automatically. I end up crawing under it and draining it manually. A cable-operated one would be nice. You still have to dump the nasty stuff in a can, but any improvement is welcome. Ironically, all this macho talk about my compressor must have had something to do with its failure this weekend! I think my motor needs a new startup capacitor. I have to give it a nudge with a stick to get it going. Then again, the same could be said about a lot of us! ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:41:32 PM PST US From: "Dave Nicholson" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Compressor Sump drains --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dave Nicholson" I tried an automatic drain valve on my shop compressor, but one morning I found the pipe nipple attaching it to the bottom of the storage tank was broken, and the compressor had run most of the night. I replaced it with a simple ball valve and piped the drain line to the outside of the shop. I manually blow it down every few days. Dave Nicholson 90347 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Newsted" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Compressor Sump drains > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" > > > Hey, I like that even better! The problem with my automatic drain valve is > that I never turn the compressor off, so it hardly ever drains automatically. > I end up crawing under it and draining it manually. A cable-operated one would > be nice. You still have to dump the nasty stuff in a can, but any improvement > is welcome. Ironically, all this macho talk about my compressor must have had > something to do with its failure this weekend! I think my motor needs a new > startup capacitor. I have to give it a nudge with a stick to get it going. > Then again, the same could be said about a lot of us! > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:30 PM PST US From: "Gary" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" Guess you haven't made your fuselage longerons yet! You'll get your thrills on those parts, too. Gary --> RV9-List message posted by: KIKIDEEMAX@aol.com I'M NOT THERE YET, BUT THE F996 ATTACH BRACKETS : ARE THESE ALUM. OR STEEL? WACKING AL MAKES ME NERVOUS, STEEL WACKING HOWEVER THRILLS ME. DAVID MORGAN #90079 CAPACITIVCE TANK PREP "CLAMP THE BRACKET IN A VICE AND WACK IT WITH A HAMMER" TIL IT FITS... --- Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/20/02 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:30 PM PST US From: "Gary" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Aileron Lock Nut --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" Okay, I gotcha now. It is just a thin nylock, same as AN 364. I keep a stock of such things on hand, so don't know if they were in the kit or not. I have had to order a few little missing hardware items several times. Do not archive. Gary --> RV9-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" This nut is called out on Dwg 13 Section B-B. It goes on screw MS24694-S67 that holds the aileron control tube W918 onto the Aileron bracket A907. Curt Hoffman --- Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/20/02