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1. 01:46 AM - Re: mISSMATCH (Malcolm Wheatley)
2. 07:44 AM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (flap rigging) (Andy Karmy)
3. 09:04 AM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (John Kerr)
4. 09:06 AM - Re: aileron lock nut (Mark Schrimmer)
5. 12:44 PM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (Bob Haan)
6. 03:06 PM - Re: Compressor Sump drains (Curt Hoffman)
7. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: aileron lock nut (Curt Hoffman)
8. 06:04 PM - Flap bracket- revisted (Curt Hoffman)
9. 06:04 PM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (DThomas773@aol.com)
10. 06:09 PM - Re: Flap bracket- revisted (DThomas773@aol.com)
11. 06:50 PM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (Gary Newsted)
12. 10:42 PM - Re: Wing attach brackets. (DThomas773@aol.com)
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--> RV9-List message posted by: Malcolm Wheatley <rv9a_builder@btopenworld.com>
Joe,
Start with the right skin, the one without the bent back section. Work
from the rear-most hole, so that the excess overhangs the forward edge of
the skin. If you do this, they fit. If you don't, you waste hours trying
to figure it out.
Malcolm
Time: 03:02:48 PM PST US
Subject: RV9-List: mISSMATCH
From: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com>
--> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com>
hAS ANYONE HAD A PROBLEM MATCHING UP THE HOLES IN STIFFNERS (915) WITH
THE 901 L/R SKINS OR AM i JUST LOSING IT.?????
JOE rv9a
AD
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| Subject: | Wing attach brackets. (flap rigging) |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
I just finished rigging the flaps and ailerons. With everything neutral and lined
up using the aileron belcrank jig, with the flaps pulled all the way up, there
is about 1/4-3/8" of a gap on the underside of the fuselage to the bottom
of the flap. I'm working on a gentle bend of the lip on the end of the flap to
shrink that down.
- Andy
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>PS I mounted the first flap since I could not bend the brackets. How far off
>the underside of the fuse should it be in the 'up ' position? I could not
>find this specified.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing attach brackets. |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "John Kerr" <kerrjohna@mtwest.net>
adjustable spanner is a term you might recognize.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets.
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
<SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>
> Additional whacking did NOT work! I think larger tools are needed. An
excuse
> to fly over to my local maint shop. A cressent wrench!? If we have them I
> don't know them by that name, but I can guess. The problem is the brackets
> are made of aluminium when they get here.
>
> Thanks Andy! Steve.
>
> PS I mounted the first flap since I could not bend the brackets. How far
off
> the underside of the fuse should it be in the 'up ' position? I could not
> find this specified.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Karmy
> Sent: 09 February 2003 16:48
> To: rv9-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets.
>
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
>
> I also was able to move them nicely with a very large adjustable cressent
> wrench (if they have those by that name in England...) You just hold in a
> vice and lean on the wrench.
>
> - Andy (and they even fit when finished)
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:30:37 -0000
>
> >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
<SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
> >
> >Albert - Thanks. Well I will go and whack it some more, but I think its
> >going to require a bigger hammer than I posesss! Steve.
> >
> >PS Its ally. For the person who asked.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
> >Sent: 09 February 2003 00:59
> >To: rv9-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets.
> >
> >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner"
> ><albert.gardner@worldnet.att.net>
> >
> >Steve:
> >Do this one when your wings are on for the trial fitting. Clamp the
bracket
> >in a vise and whack it with a hammer and see if it fits, If not, whack it
> >again. The band will occur in the area away from the corner and all it
> needs
> >is a small amount of bend.
> >Albert
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
> >To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets.
> >
> >
> >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
> ><SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
> >>
> >> Sorry guys. Me again. I seem to ask lots of dumb questions.
> >>
> >> The F996tank attach brackets are meant to have a 2.7degree bend put in
> >them.
> >> How the hell does one do this. (Despite my surname) I am finding it
quite
> >> impossible to move this gauge of metal. Technique?
> >>
> >> Thanks, Steve.
> >>
> >DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: aileron lock nut |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
>The inboard aileron bracket has a screw that secures the bracket to the control
>tube.The print calls for this screw to be secured with a MS21083-N3 lock
>nut. It appears on the print to be a thinner version of an AN365-1032.
Curt:
What version of drawing 13 do you have? Mine were drawn on 11/15/99 (no
revisions) and specify the AN365-1032 nut for the MS24694-S67 screw.
Mark Schrimmer
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| Subject: | Re: Wing attach brackets. |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Bob Haan <bhaan@easystreet.com>
Steve,
I heated them up with a heat gun and they bent very easily using a vise and
a hammer.
At 05:43 PM 2/8/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>
>Sorry guys. Me again. I seem to ask lots of dumb questions.
>
>The F996tank attach brackets are meant to have a 2.7degree bend put in them.
>How the hell does one do this. (Despite my surname) I am finding it quite
>impossible to move this gauge of metal. Technique?
>
>Thanks, Steve.
>
>
Bob
RV6A almost
http://easystreet.com/~bhaan/
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| Subject: | Re: Compressor Sump drains |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
I had a well pump motor that acted like that once. Unfortunately I couldn't
find a 300 foot stick to hit it with so I had to pay a bunch of money to
pull it up to change the capacitor start, and then of course they said it
was obsolete and I should really put a new style motor on it, and while I'm
at it the pump was a little old, yada, yada, yada.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings almost done- working on tail
1968 Mustang 302 convertible
Piper Cherokee N5320W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Compressor Sump drains
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
>
>
> Hey, I like that even better! The problem with my automatic drain valve
is
> that I never turn the compressor off, so it hardly ever drains
automatically.
> I end up crawing under it and draining it manually. A cable-operated one
would
> be nice. You still have to dump the nasty stuff in a can, but any
improvement
> is welcome. Ironically, all this macho talk about my compressor must
have had
> something to do with its failure this weekend! I think my motor needs a
new
> startup capacitor. I have to give it a nudge with a stick to get it
going.
> Then again, the same could be said about a lot of us!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: aileron lock nut |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
Mine is also 11/15/99 with no revisions. I suspect you're looking at the
second screw on that same bracket. The one with the special nut is the one
that holds the aileron control tube.
I just received my bag of stuff from Vans today. It had the thinner lock
nuts and a bunch of other nuts. God knows where they go since I am about
done with the wing and didn't realize I was missing them.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings almost done- working on tail
1968 Mustang 302 convertible
Piper Cherokee N5320W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Schrimmer" <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
Subject: RV9-List: RE: aileron lock nut
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
>
> >The inboard aileron bracket has a screw that secures the bracket to the
control
> >tube.The print calls for this screw to be secured with a MS21083-N3 lock
> >nut. It appears on the print to be a thinner version of an AN365-1032.
>
>
> Curt:
>
>
> What version of drawing 13 do you have? Mine were drawn on 11/15/99 (no
> revisions) and specify the AN365-1032 nut for the MS24694-S67 screw.
>
> Mark Schrimmer
>
>
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| Subject: | Flap bracket- revisted |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
If anyone is in the Loveland Oh area would you please stop over and slit my wrists
for me. I'm afraid I'd screw it up and have to do it again.
I just reinstalled the center flap brackets I was whining about with new bushings.
When I put all the bolts in the holes to the flap brackets, and then swung
the loose center bracket back into position, the rivet holes almost exactly line
up with the original holes. In fact I was able to push a few rivets back in
the holes.
It looks like I may only have to skim a few holes to get the rest of the rivets
in. man this baby was close. I still can't believe I couldn't get that center
bolt in. Maybe I should have tried harder.
Anway, alls well that ends well I guess. Forget the wrists. But you can come over
and rivet if you like.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings almost done- working on tail
1968 Mustang 302 convertible
Piper Cherokee N5320W
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| Subject: | Re: Wing attach brackets. |
--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
What I want to know is how the hell can you measure 2.7 dgrees?
Dennis Thomas
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flap bracket- revisted |
--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
Hey Curt,
We all knew there would be days like this. I just wish there were not quite
so many.
Dennis Thomas
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| Subject: | Re: Wing attach brackets. |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
Well, you first get a GPS fix of the current position of the unbent angle, then
you overfly the shop intercepting the aforementioned coordinates, carving
out a 2.7 degree course line accounting for wind drift as needed. Then after
flying for approx five miles, drop your ELT out the window where it will arm
on impact. Then return home, install your Nav radio and tune your VOR to
the frequency of your ELT, hold the angle bracket up to the needle which is
now deflected 2.7 degrees, and whack the crap out of it with a giant rubber
mallet! Don't forget to ask for your ELT back from the local FSDO.
If that's too precise for you, you can just eyeball it or bend a thin
strip of aluminum to 2.7 degrees on a small protractor as a model. ;
)
----- Original Message -----
From: <DThomas773@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wing attach brackets.
> --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
>
> What I want to know is how the hell can you measure 2.7 dgrees?
>
> Dennis Thomas
>
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Wing attach brackets. |
--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
Well Gary I really appreciate the input. I was sure as hell worried about
coming up with an attach angle bent, incorrectly, to 2.6 or 2.8 degrees.
Dennis Thomas
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