Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:50 AM - Re: Top Skin Riveting (John Oliveira)
2. 08:17 AM - Re: Fuel sender (Gary)
3. 09:15 AM - Re: Fuel sender (Chris)
4. 01:39 PM - Re: Fuel sender (Gary)
5. 02:01 PM - builds (Arthur Nation)
6. 02:44 PM - Re: builds (Andy Karmy)
7. 02:45 PM - Re: Fuel sender (Albert Gardner)
8. 03:08 PM - Re: builds (Larry PERRYMAN)
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| Subject: | Re: Top Skin Riveting |
--> RV9-List message posted by: John Oliveira <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
I use the long thin jaw extensively. For example, the whole top skin to
spar could be squeezed from the rear using it. It reached across the
part of skin sticking out that became the gap filler. also many other
places. Used to rivet the rear tank baffles as well.
As far as the back riveting goes. I used help there. Used rivet tape
to keep marks on skin to minimum. Second person held the mushroom
against the wing while I back riveted. Occasionally polish the head of
the mushroom to keep it smooth.
John Oliveira
Richard Tasker wrote:
>--> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
>
>I was afraid that someone would say that (squeezer with long narrow
>jaws). I assume that you are referring to the one with the really thin
>end that does not use a rivet set in that jaw. Of course, I don't have
>that set of jaws for my pneumatic squeezer :-( .
>
>How much did you use those jaws? Just on this or on lots of other places?
>
>When you used the extended back riveting set with the mushroom bucking
>bar, were you able to do any of it by yourself or did you have help for
>all the rivets? I tried the extended set but didn't have very good
>luck. I did not use the large bucking bar (just one of the typical flat
>bars) so that may have been my problem.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dick Tasker
>
>John Oliveira wrote:
>
>>--> RV9-List message posted by: John Oliveira <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
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>>I could not remember any problem so I went to the basement and checked
>>the completed wings. It jarred my memory. I used a pneumatic squeezer
>>with the long narrow jaws to do all of the rear spar upper skin rivets.
>>- No problem, the look just as neat as all the rest. I back riveted the
>>remainder of the upper wing skin using a large mushroom shaped polished
>>bucking bar from avery and the extended (about 7 inch long) back
>>riveting set to reach through from the bottom side. Came out very nice.
>>
>>I wish I could say the same for the lower skins, especially around the
>>flap brackets. That was the real bucking bar and reach problem.
>>
>>John Oliveira
>>90054 N909RV - waiting for my March 17th Fuselage shipment, finishing
>>the last flap.
>>
>>
>>Richard Tasker wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
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>>>How do you rivet the last few rivets on the most inboard end of the skin
>>>where the rear spar doubler is? There is essentially no room there for
>>>any kind of bucking bar (at least any I have). I tried squeezing them
>>>and that didn't work either. Help!!
>>>
>>>It seems that it would have been easier to rivet the rear spar assembly
>>>together after the skin was riveted to the rear spar...
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Dick Tasker, 90573
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
I agree with Larry, and so does Van's. The SW senders and Van's inexpensive gages
are very accurate near the low end of the capacity, where you need it (if
you need it). They are consistent, reasonably priced, reliable, and repairable
if it should ever be necesary. They will not register the top few gallons in
each tank. If you want to know if it is topped off, look in the filler cap.
Of course, this debate is NEARLY as intense as primers and nose/tail draggers.
And of course, if I had spent a wheelbarrow load of cash on the other kind,
I would defend and recommend them to the end.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Perryman
To: rv9-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Fuel sender
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry Perryman" <larry-perryman@txucom.net>
Don,
Just one thing to say that made my mind up. $100.00 for floats and gages. It
would have been almost 3 grand to light up the set of microvision senders
after I decided against the Microvision panel.
Regards
Larry Perryman
PS At empty, you have about 1 gallon of gas left or less. They will hit the
bottom skin but clear the top. I fly by time anyway so not a problem. Three
hours and pit stop.
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--> RV9-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
Gary wrote:
> . . . And of course, if I had spent a wheelbarrow load of cash on the other
kind, I would defend and recommend them to the end.
Why!? These forums would be pretty useless if everyone were that way. I have
spent a wheelbarrow load of cash on garbage on a few rare occasions and I will
gladly tell anyone that asks about the product just what piece of trash it is.
do not archive
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
I was kidding..........
Gary
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
To: rv9-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Fuel sender
--> RV9-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
Gary wrote:
> . . . And of course, if I had spent a wheelbarrow load of cash on the other
kind, I would defend and recommend them to the end.
Why!? These forums would be pretty useless if everyone were that way. I have
spent a wheelbarrow load of cash on garbage on a few rare occasions and I will
gladly tell anyone that asks about the product just what piece of trash it
is.
do not archive
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Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
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--> RV9-List message posted by: Arthur Nation <anation@eskimo.com>
Hi to the list,
My first message.
I am thinking of the RV9-A and looking for a build in the state of
Washington/Oregon that I could visit..
I am located near Tacoma, WA.
Thanks,
Arthur
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
Hi Arthur,
Welcome to the RV lists!
You are in luck! Come on down to Thun field in Puyallup. We are the home of EAA
chapter 326 which has 8 RV9's under construction and many more 8's, 7's, 6's,
4's etc etc etc... Great bunch of guys.
I just finished my 9A and have about 12 hours on it thus far. You could link up
with all the guys building 9's at next weeks meeting. We meet the second Tuesday
of each month at the Cival Air Patrol building at Thun field.
Here's our chapter website http://www.eaa326.org/
- Andy Karmy
Chapter 326 Secretary
RV9A flying!
DO NOT ARCHIVE
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Arthur Nation <anation@eskimo.com>
>--> RV9-List message posted by: Arthur Nation <anation@eskimo.com>
>
>Hi to the list,
>My first message.
>I am thinking of the RV9-A and looking for a build in the state of
>Washington/Oregon that I could visit..
>I am located near Tacoma, WA.
>Thanks,
>Arthur
>
>
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <albert.gardner@worldnet.att.net>
I had some problems calibrating the EI fuel gage in that the sensor numbers
for an empty tank were quite high. (If you don't have an EI FL2 gage this
probably doesn't make any sense.) I could still get reading across the range
but there were only about 15-20 sensor steps per gallon. I called EI and
they said to make sure to use a minimum amount of wire between the BNC tank
connector and the little conversion module (2 wires in, 3 wires out to the
gage) because that will likely throw the calibration procedure off.
Albert Gardner
N872RV
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03/05/2003 12:04:47 AM,
Serialize complete at 03/05/2003 12:04:47 AM
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry PERRYMAN" <larry.perryman@atofina.com>
Check out the RV White Pages from the Van's web site.
here is a list of Washington State:
USA | Washington | Anacortes | King, Monte | 360.588.1205 | 6A | FL |
N693KM | 76S
USA | Washington | Auburn | Karmy, Andy | 253.333.6695 | 9A | FS | N169AK
| K1S0
USA | Washington | Auburn | Potter, Lee | 253.941.9578 | 7 | EM | N1224K |
S50
USA | Washington | Battle Ground | Waldal, Art | 360.687.9163 | 6A | WG,,
USA | Washington | Bellevue | James,Larry | 206.940.6912 | 4 | FS |
N770TT,
USA | Washington | Bothell | Hutton,Bill/JoAnne | 425.489.1416 | 6AQB | FL
| N653RV | KAWO
USA | Washington | Bremerton | Diehl,Don | 360.377.8191 | 4 | FL | N28EW,
USA | Washington | Bremerton | Shannon,Kevin | 360.698.2229 | 9A | FS,,
USA | Washington | Cheney | Adams, Dan | 509.235.2835 | 8 | FS,,
USA | Washington | Covington | Stocker, Lester | 253.638.8645 | 7A | EM,,
USA | Washington | Enumclaw | Migas, Rich | 360.825.4014 | 9A | FS,,
USA | Washington | Everett | Rainwater,Greg | 425.353.4342 | 4 | FL |
N818GR | KAWO
USA | Washington | Everett | Rudberg, Todd | 425.290.7526 | 8 | WG |
N232TB | KS43
USA | Washington | Everett | Thomas, Dan | 425.353.2659 | 6 | FL | N43DT |
KAWO
USA | Washington | Farmington | Schoepflin,Bill | 509.287.2741 | 8QB | FK
| N8YS,
USA | Washington | Gig Harbor | Baldwin,Scott/Penny | 253.265.6405 | 6QB |
RE | N728P | TIW
USA | Washington | Gig Harbor | Calhoon,Mike | 253.858.4427 | 6 | WG |
N18MC,
USA | Washington | Gig Harbor | Casper,Steve | 253.853.7447 | 4 | FL |
N20SC | TIW
USA | Washington | Kent | Nicholas,Kim | 253.859.1058 | 9A | WG,,
USA | Washington | Lake Forest Park | Watson,Terry | 206.365.2657 | 8A |
WG,,
USA | Washington | Lakewood | Klawitter,Gordy | 253.582.4971 | 7 | FS |
N5878G,
USA | Washington | Longview | Hamilton, Keith | 360.636.3269 | 6A | FL |
N225RC | KKLS
USA | Washington | Lummi Island | Day, William | 360.758.2177 | 6A | FL |
N931RG | KBLI
USA | Washington | Lynden | Rathbun,Rick | 360.354.2968 | 8 | FS,,
USA | Washington | Marysville | Luster,Richard | 360.659.0505 | 9A | FS |
N909RL | KAWO
USA | Washington | Marysville | Nice,James | 360.659.7863 | 6A | WG,,AWO
USA | Washington | Monroe | Bentley, Dick | 360.794.8808 | 4 | FL | N81RB
| KAWO
USA | Washington | Oak Harbor | Peckenpaugh, Kent | 350.279.9845 | 6 |
WG,,
USA | Washington | Puyallup | Atkins, David/Kathy | 253.848.7776 | 6 | FL
| N6880 | 1S0
USA | Washington | Redmond | Burton,Dave | 425.868.7745 | 6 | WG,,
USA | Washington | Redmond | Drake,Marc | 425.882.1156 | 6 | FL | N3135G |
PAE
USA | Washington | Sammamish | Karie,Daniel | 425.427.2253 | 7AQB | EM |
N826RV | S50
USA | Washington | Seattle | Bass, Chuck | 425.820.5557 | 4 | FL | N88BN |
KPAE
USA | Washington | Seattle | Blank,Steven | 360.808.2435 | 6A | EM,,
USA | Washington | Seattle | Vasey,Keith | 206.935.4433 | 8QB | WG,,KBFI
USA | Washington | Spokane | Furrie, Ethan | 509.475.8472 | 7 | EM,,
USA | Washington | Spokane | Swinkels, Tim | 509.467.4629 | 8 | FK |
N128KM | KSFF
USA | Washington | Spokane | Ward,Dave | 509.328.6585 | 9A | EM | N3533W,
USA | Washington | Tacoma | Knepper,Harold | 253.588.2573 | 6AQB | WG,,
USA | Washington | Vancouver | Adams,Mike | 360.892.1299 | 4 | FS,,
USA | Washington | Vancouver | Lervold,Randy | 360.254.9291 | 8 | FK |
N558RL | KVUO
USA | Washington | Vancouver | McNamara, Jim | 360.694.8305 | 8 | EM,,
USA | Washington | Vancouver | Wotring,Dale | 360.887.3196 | 6A | RE |
N244DW | KVUO
Hope this will give you a start.
Regards,
Larry Perryman
RV9A N194DL Flying
(281) 227-5550
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