RV9-List Digest Archive

Thu 03/06/03


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 02:02 AM - Re: RV9-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/05/03 (Ewinne@aol.com)
     2. 09:27 AM - Wiring Van's Fuel Gauges (RV9)
     3. 11:25 AM - Aeroflash Strobe Unit (Steve Sampson)
     4. 12:10 PM - Re: Aeroflash Strobe Unit  (Patrick E. Moseley)
     5. 02:41 PM - Re: Aeroflash Strobe Unit <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com> (Steve Sampson)
     6. 03:13 PM - Re: Aeroflash Strobe Unit <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com> (Larry PERRYMAN)
     7. 05:46 PM - Re: Wiring Van's Fuel Gauges (Gary)
     8. 05:54 PM - flap actuator (Gozewijn Vlasblom)
     9. 06:04 PM - Re: flap actuator (David Schaefer)
    10. 08:44 PM - Re: Aeroflash Strobe Unit (guy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:02:44 AM PST US
    From: Ewinne@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV9-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/05/03
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Ewinne@aol.com Arthur- Not sure what you mean by firewall hard-wired. The QB fuse comes with the firewall installed and riveted, without any penetrations for wiring, throttle cables, heat, etc. Those things are all planned and executed by the builder. Thje QB fuse doesn't have the top skins installed over the front, so access to the whole area behind the firewall is wide open. Ed Winne RV9A Jonestown PA


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    Time: 09:27:29 AM PST US
    From: RV9 <rv9@charter.net>
    Subject: Wiring Van's Fuel Gauges
    --> RV9-List message posted by: RV9 <rv9@charter.net> I'm working on getting my left fuel tank ready for sealing. I've bought and received the SW senders and a pair of the Van's fuel gauges, and would like to test the senders with the gauges as suggested in the builders manual. I cannot seem to locate any information on the proper wiring connections to the gauge. There are three terminals labeled "I', "S", and "G". Steve Mottin Granbury, TX RV-9A (wings) N609RV (Reserved)


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    Time: 11:25:38 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
    Subject: Aeroflash Strobe Unit
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu> Has anyone looked at using the considerably cheaper aeroflash strobe/tail light part #153-0011 in place of the similar Whelen unit? I am trying to check the dimensions are such that they will fit the fibreglass rudder bottom. I assume the dimensions are the same as the Whelen unit but am having trouble confirming this. Thanks, Steve. #90360 UK


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    Time: 12:10:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aeroflash Strobe Unit
    <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com>
    From: "Patrick E. Moseley" <moseley@moseley.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Patrick E. Moseley" <moseley@moseley.com> If you go to: http://www.aeroflash.com/plane.html#tailposition There is a link to the "Specifications, Wiring & Spare Parts Guide" that has the dimensions for the lamp assembly: http://www.aeroflash.com/156-0029.pdf Here are the dimensions cut and pasted from the above document: Dimensions for the Lamp Assembly: Housing .................1-5/16 Dia. Flange ...................2-3/16 Dia. Height....................2-1/4 (from bottom of housing to top of dome) Patrick Moseley Tucson, AZ In message <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com>, on 6-Mar-2003, "Steve Sampson" writes: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu> > > Has anyone looked at using the considerably cheaper aeroflash strobe/tail > light part #153-0011 in place of the similar Whelen unit? I am trying to > check the dimensions are such that they will fit the fibreglass rudder > bottom. I assume the dimensions are the same as the Whelen unit but am > having trouble confirming this. Thanks, Steve. > #90360 > UK > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:41:54 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
    Subject: Aeroflash Strobe Unit <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu> Patrick - thanks, yes I saw that, but since the base unit is not circular I am not sure what that flange dia means. Why they don't put a simple drawing beats me! Steve. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick E. Moseley Subject: Re: RV9-List: Aeroflash Strobe Unit <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Patrick E. Moseley" <moseley@moseley.com> If you go to: http://www.aeroflash.com/plane.html#tailposition There is a link to the "Specifications, Wiring & Spare Parts Guide" that has the dimensions for the lamp assembly: http://www.aeroflash.com/156-0029.pdf Here are the dimensions cut and pasted from the above document: Dimensions for the Lamp Assembly: Housing .................1-5/16 Dia. Flange ...................2-3/16 Dia. Height....................2-1/4 (from bottom of housing to top of dome) Patrick Moseley Tucson, AZ In message <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com>, on 6-Mar-2003, "Steve Sampson" writes: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu> > > Has anyone looked at using the considerably cheaper aeroflash strobe/tail > light part #153-0011 in place of the similar Whelen unit? I am trying to > check the dimensions are such that they will fit the fibreglass rudder > bottom. I assume the dimensions are the same as the Whelen unit but am > having trouble confirming this. Thanks, Steve. > #90360 > UK > >


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    Time: 03:13:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Aeroflash Strobe Unit <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com>
    From: "Larry PERRYMAN" <larry.perryman@atofina.com>
    03/07/2003 12:12:54 AM, Serialize complete at 03/07/2003 12:12:54 AM --> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry PERRYMAN" <larry.perryman@atofina.com> Steve, The distance tip to tip across the outside of the housing is 2 3/16 inch. The hole necessary for the body to go back into the rudder fairing is 1 5/16 inch. I suspect that you will find that this fits. One of the best directions I have seen for installing is to take the unit and coat it with a mold release compound or a good car wax. Remove enough of the opening in the rudder fairing to allow the unit to go back into the rudder fairing to the position you want. Coat the mounting screws well. Tape the unit in place and fill the end of the fairing with a mix of epoxy and flox or microballoons so that it holds the unit in place. The mounting screws should be buried in the fill also. When it cures, remove and clean the light unit. You will now have a nice tight socket for the light and the mounting screws will thread into the epoxy to hold it. I sure wish I had seen this method before I installed mine. I was trying to mount nuts inside to hold the unit in. You will sure find out if you have it well covered with wax when you try to remove the light. If you did a poor job, the socket may be permanently mounted for you. Another release agent that you can nick from your wife's kitchen is some clear food wrap. It works to put it around the outside of an item and then put epoxy over it. It will generally pull loose from epoxy. Probably the best is to find someone that is building a fiberglass plane. They should have the clear plastic that is used to vacuum bag components. Epoxy will not stick to it either. Talk them out of a piece big enough to wrap the light up in. Hope this helps Regards, Larry Perryman "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu> Sent by: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 03/06/2003 10:33 AM Please respond to rv9-list To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> cc: Subject: RE: RV9-List: Aeroflash Strobe Unit <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu> Patrick - thanks, yes I saw that, but since the base unit is not circular I am not sure what that flange dia means. Why they don't put a simple drawing beats me! Steve. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick E. Moseley Subject: Re: RV9-List: Aeroflash Strobe Unit <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Patrick E. Moseley" <moseley@moseley.com> If you go to: http://www.aeroflash.com/plane.html#tailposition There is a link to the "Specifications, Wiring & Spare Parts Guide" that has the dimensions for the lamp assembly: http://www.aeroflash.com/156-0029.pdf Here are the dimensions cut and pasted from the above document: Dimensions for the Lamp Assembly: Housing .................1-5/16 Dia. Flange ...................2-3/16 Dia. Height....................2-1/4 (from bottom of housing to top of dome) Patrick Moseley Tucson, AZ In message <200303061925.h26JPJu32636@matronics.com>, on 6-Mar-2003, "Steve Sampson" writes: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu> > > Has anyone looked at using the considerably cheaper aeroflash strobe/tail > light part #153-0011 in place of the similar Whelen unit? I am trying to > check the dimensions are such that they will fit the fibreglass rudder > bottom. I assume the dimensions are the same as the Whelen unit but am > having trouble confirming this. Thanks, Steve. > #90360 > UK > >


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    Time: 05:46:38 PM PST US
    From: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
    Subject: Re: Wiring Van's Fuel Gauges
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net> Ignition (B+), Sender, and Ground. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: RV9 To: rv9-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: RV9-List: Wiring Van's Fuel Gauges --> RV9-List message posted by: RV9 <rv9@charter.net> I'm working on getting my left fuel tank ready for sealing. I've bought and received the SW senders and a pair of the Van's fuel gauges, and would like to test the senders with the gauges as suggested in the builders manual. I cannot seem to locate any information on the proper wiring connections to the gauge. There are three terminals labeled "I', "S", and "G". Steve Mottin Granbury, TX RV-9A (wings) N609RV (Reserved) --- Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/28/03


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    Time: 05:54:57 PM PST US
    From: "Gozewijn Vlasblom" <vlasblom@ripnet.com>
    Subject: flap actuator
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gozewijn Vlasblom" <vlasblom@ripnet.com> Hi Folks, I have just finished installing the electric flap actuator assembly. I started off with the hardware provided by Van's and installed it according instructions. When I tried it out the motor kept on running although the actuator arm had reached the end of its travel. I did not like that. What followed was two weeks of puzzling, designing, redesigning. countless errors and mistakes and finely a product I was happy with. Building airplanes certainly is a learning experience. The micro switches come from Fletchair Inc.in Houston Tx tel 713 641 2023. They are used in a Grumman Tiger, for the electric flaps. No.: V3L-30D9 or 4604-1100 US$ 9.19/pc I include a few pictures and a wiring diagram. Remember that drawing wiring diagrams was not part of my education. One more improvement could be considered: When you want to raise the flaps for touch and goes, you may not want to spent the required 6 sec to do the job. The Grumman tiger switch works as follows: when you put it in the up position, you do not have to hold the switch. It will proceed until the flaps are up completely. Switch No.: 6GM5B-50X123 a little pricier at US$ 67.12 There is very little room between the control arm of the flap actuator assembly and the elevator controll rod, but it is just enough. The wiring diagram does not give indication re polarity and which switch controls up movement and which one down movement. That will have to be done emperically. Have fun, Goz Vlasblom 90171 vlasblom@ripnet.com


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    Time: 06:04:53 PM PST US
    From: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com>
    Subject: flap actuator
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com> Having owned and flown a Tiger for several years the only caveat is that the Grumman flap switches are infamous for springing all way back up if you just let go of them ... leaving you very fast with no flaps on final! You just can't figure why you're still going so fast till you look at the wing and see the flaps up! Regards, David W. Schaefer RV6-A -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gozewijn Vlasblom Subject: RV9-List: flap actuator --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gozewijn Vlasblom" <vlasblom@ripnet.com> Hi Folks, I have just finished installing the electric flap actuator assembly. I started off with the hardware provided by Van's and installed it according instructions. When I tried it out the motor kept on running although the actuator arm had reached the end of its travel. I did not like that. What followed was two weeks of puzzling, designing, redesigning. countless errors and mistakes and finely a product I was happy with. Building airplanes certainly is a learning experience. The micro switches come from Fletchair Inc.in Houston Tx tel 713 641 2023. They are used in a Grumman Tiger, for the electric flaps. No.: V3L-30D9 or 4604-1100 US$ 9.19/pc I include a few pictures and a wiring diagram. Remember that drawing wiring diagrams was not part of my education. One more improvement could be considered: When you want to raise the flaps for touch and goes, you may not want to spent the required 6 sec to do the job. The Grumman tiger switch works as follows: when you put it in the up position, you do not have to hold the switch. It will proceed until the flaps are up completely. Switch No.: 6GM5B-50X123 a little pricier at US$ 67.12 There is very little room between the control arm of the flap actuator assembly and the elevator controll rod, but it is just enough. The wiring diagram does not give indication re polarity and which switch controls up movement and which one down movement. That will have to be done emperically. Have fun, Goz Vlasblom 90171 vlasblom@ripnet.com


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    Time: 08:44:54 PM PST US
    From: "guy" <gvotuc@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Aeroflash Strobe Unit
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "guy" <gvotuc@direcway.com> Someone mentioned a while back that a lot of the "other" strobes out there didn't meet the FAA requirements for night because of the Lumens ( or lack of ) I never verified this I just spent the bucks....=0D =0D guy=0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: rv9-list@matronics.com=0D Subject: RV9-List: Aeroflash Strobe Unit=0D =0D --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>=0D =0D Has anyone looked at using the considerably cheaper aeroflash strobe/tail=0D light part #153-0011 in place of the similar Whelen unit? I am trying to=0D check the dimensions are such that they will fit the fibreglass rudder=0D bottom. I assume the dimensions are the same as the Whelen unit but am=0D having trouble confirming this. Thanks, Steve.=0D #90360=0D UK=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =2E




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