---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/10/03: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:41 AM - Re: RV-9A Elevators and Rudder (Joe Wiza) 2. 08:26 AM - Re: Tail section (Ken Moak) 3. 11:01 AM - Wing tip lenses (Steve Sampson) 4. 11:27 AM - Re: Wing tip lenses (tchoug) 5. 04:18 PM - flared fittings (The Strong's) 6. 06:25 PM - Re: flared fittings (Chris) 7. 09:24 PM - 705 bulkhead alignment (Rob W M Shipley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV9-List: RV-9A Elevators and Rudder From: Joe Wiza --> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza I cut my tips dow so that they didn't bump up against the rivets. RV6A9 Joe On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:07:03 -0500 "Ted Strand" writes: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ted Strand" > > > I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. I am > currently > finishing up on the empennage kit and I have two things remaining. > > 1) I need to finish the trailing edges of the Rudder and elevators. > I > see in the drawings to use pro-seal on the edges of the skin. Do > they > just want this in the corners, or do they want us to put it the > whole > length? Is the Rudder the same? > > 2) I just received my fiberglass tips for the empennage (they were > backordered). Is there a trick to making them fit properly? Looks > like > they want to hang up on rivets that have already been installed in > some > places. > > Thanks in advance!!! > > -Ted Strand- > N371N > Finishing Empennage > (Wing Kit in Storage) > Clearwater, FL > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:52 AM PST US From: Ken Moak Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tail section --> RV9-List message posted by: Ken Moak I built the older (prepunched skin) 6A, I don't have any fond memories on all the aligning drilling, hard places to buck rivets. Probably me just remembering the frustration. ;) So far I like building the 9A. Wings are here waiting on me! Ken do not archive --- Joe Wiza wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza > > > Just finished the tail section, would have bet > the RV6A was easier > but then maybe I'm just remembering the easy stuff > > RV9A awaiting wings. > Joe. > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV9-List.htm > Digests:http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv9-list > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:44 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV9-List: Wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" What tools should I use to shape and drill the wing tip lenses. Its not clear to me what materials they are made of or that the canopy cutting rules apply to these. I divied the part into two with a cutting wheel but it largely achieved the task by melting rather than cutting. No problem so far, but I think I will take advice before I go further. Thanks, Steve #90360 N Yorks., UK ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:11 AM PST US From: tchoug Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: tchoug Steve, I used a cutting wheel just like you to grind/melt my way through the rough cuts. After cutting the lens in two, I fitted each half and marked out a rough cut closer to the desired cut. Then I re-fitted and cut a little closer, etc. I did the final trimming on a benchtop belt/disk sander to creep up on the desired fit. Final clean up with a bit of sandpaper. I didn't have any troble drilling, I'm not sure if they're as prone to cracking as the canopy. Todd RV9A -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sampson [mailto:SSampson.SLN21@london.edu] Subject: RV9-List: Wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" What tools should I use to shape and drill the wing tip lenses. Its not clear to me what materials they are made of or that the canopy cutting rules apply to these. I divied the part into two with a cutting wheel but it largely achieved the task by melting rather than cutting. No problem so far, but I think I will take advice before I go further. Thanks, Steve #90360 N Yorks., UK ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:14 PM PST US From: "The Strong's" Subject: RV9-List: flared fittings --> RV9-List message posted by: "The Strong's" I am working on the plumbing for my tanks and was wondering if it is necessary to use a torque wrench for getting the flared fittings correct? Is there maybe another technique that works just as well? Thanks, Tom Strong Idaho Falls, ID ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:17 PM PST US From: Chris Subject: Re: RV9-List: flared fittings --> RV9-List message posted by: Chris If you go to www.parker.com and download their catalog for the 37 degree flair fittings (I think they call them triple lock), in there you will find a detailed description of the FFFT method which stands for Flats From Finger Tight. And for -4 and -5 fittings the number is 2 for -6 fittings it is 1.5 for tube connections and 1.25 for Swivel Nut or Hose Connections. They also list Torque values for each size fitting but they do NOT recommend using the Torque method if the fittings have different types of plating or there is any lubrication on the fittings and I think the aluminum tube has a different value than the normal steel tubing. Chris The Strong's wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "The Strong's" > > I am working on the plumbing for my tanks and was wondering if it is > necessary to use a torque wrench > for getting the flared fittings correct? Is there maybe another technique > that works just as well? > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:44 PM PST US From: "Rob W M Shipley" Subject: RV9-List: 705 bulkhead alignment --> RV9-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" My thanks to Dean and Gary for the input. I called Vans today for their .02 on this topic and spoke to Ken ? (not Krueger). He was unaware of this phenomenon and gave the usual "if the holes line up it must be O.K." quote. Well, they do. Gary's observation on the design of this section makes sense to me and I'm now confident that all is well. Thanks again guys. Rob Rob W M Shipley RV9A N919RV Fuselage.