---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/04/03: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:46 AM - Wd716 (Steve Sampson) 2. 04:12 PM - Where to start in QB plans? (Roger Evenson) 3. 05:51 PM - Re: Where to start in QB plans? (Patrick E. Moseley) 4. 07:22 PM - Re: Wd716 (Gary) 5. 07:40 PM - Re: Where to start in QB plans? (DThomas773@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:02 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV9-List: Wd716 --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Anyone had problems with this weldement. It's the front component in the tipper canopy. I think it is welded wrongly. The problem is this. The aft tube is notched prior to welding, presumably so it fits into the end plate of the weldement for stabilisation during welding. However, when the welding was done this was not used and the tube was tucked under this plate with the notch performing no function. The result is that there is no way the C-702 can be pulled down flush against the tube for several of the last holes. The skin stands in excess of " above the tube half way around the bend, considerably too far away to use shims. Because the tube has been placed inside the end plate the distance along the surface of the tube is considerably less than along the skin. I have advised VANS but they are probably mostly away. Steve #90360 UK ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:05 PM PST US From: Roger Evenson Subject: RV9-List: Where to start in QB plans? --> RV9-List message posted by: Roger Evenson Van's won't say where in the instructions they stopped construction of quickbuild fuselage and wings. Can someone tell me where in section 7 (wings) and/or section 8 (fuselage) to begin? (Already checked the archives without success). Roger, Tucson, Arizona, 9A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV9-List: Where to start in QB plans? From: "Patrick E. Moseley" --> RV9-List message posted by: "Patrick E. Moseley" Roger, From what I have read, the best thing to do is to start at the beginning of the instructions and check that each thing is done and check it off as you go. I don't know that the quickbuild is just the kit completed up to some point, I think that there might be things that were skipped in the instructions that you need to complete; however, I don't know for sure since I have not built one. Patrick Moseley Tucson, AZ dreaming/planning 9A In message <200304050011.h350BmV19313@matronics.com>, on 4-Apr-2003, Roger Evenson writes: > --> RV9-List message posted by: Roger Evenson > > Van's won't say where in the instructions they stopped construction of quickb > uild fuselage and wings. > > Can someone tell me where in section 7 (wings) and/or section 8 (fuselage) to > begin? (Already checked the archives without success). > > Roger, Tucson, Arizona, 9A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:40 PM PST US From: "Gary" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wd716 --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" Hi, Steve. There is a huge gap between the skin and the tube on that curve, as you say. On each side, I made some thick shims of aluminum, curved to seat against the tube, for two or three of the holes, and just filled one hole with a rivet. There was a lot of shimming and fitting for the mating of the skin to the frame, not just on the curved tube, but the sides as well. I talked to Van's about it at the time, too. They said people fill in the gap in various ways, including fiberglass, but it is not necessary to fill it all in. I do feel that the tip-up reinforcement kit is not an option, but necessary. I would not build a tip-up without it. I fussed over this problem at first, too, but I was pleased with the rigidity and appearance of the frame when it was finished. Since it is welded aluminum made of channels, tubes, and formed sheet, I can see that it would be pretty difficult to build it so the skin would fit smoothly and tightly all over, without some shimming and fitting, and that a gap on the outside curve of the tube is quite unimportant. If you could send me a picture or two of yours off list, I'll see if it looks different than mine. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Sampson To: rv9-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:19 PM Subject: RV9-List: Wd716 --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Anyone had problems with this weldement. It's the front component in the tipper canopy. I think it is welded wrongly. The problem is this. The aft tube is notched prior to welding, presumably so it fits into the end plate of the weldement for stabilisation during welding. However, when the welding was done this was not used and the tube was tucked under this plate with the notch performing no function. The result is that there is no way the C-702 can be pulled down flush against the tube for several of the last holes. The skin stands in excess of " above the tube half way around the bend, considerably too far away to use shims. Because the tube has been placed inside the end plate the distance along the surface of the tube is considerably less than along the skin. I have advised VANS but they are probably mostly away. Steve #90360 UK --- Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/03 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:10 PM PST US From: DThomas773@aol.com Subject: Re: RV9-List: Where to start in QB plans? --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com Hi Roger, I was at one time considering a quickbuild fuselage and called Van's about the difference. They told me you use the same plane just start at the beginning and work through it. Ultimately I ordered a standard kit rather than wait the 6/7 months for the quickbuild. Dennis Thomas fuselage