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1. 04:29 PM - Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib (Glenn Brasch)
2. 05:11 PM - Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib (Bob Hassel)
3. 05:23 PM - ATTENTION: Fuel Tank Rivet Problems (Richard E. Tasker)
4. 06:57 PM - Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib (Glenn Brasch)
5. 07:27 PM - Re: ATTENTION: Fuel Tank Rivet Problems (Merems)
6. 07:45 PM - Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib (John Oliveira)
7. 07:56 PM - Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib (Glenn Brasch)
8. 08:10 PM - Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib (Jen G)
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| Subject: | Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
I am waiting on an answer from Van's but thought I would check here. In putting
together the rudder skeleton and matching the skins, the bottom rib pre-punched
holes do not line up with the skin, they are off by about 1/4 inch. The rest
of the holes match perfectly along the spar and top rib. There is really
nowhere to make a mistake in the bottom skeleton assembly, i:e: putting together
the rudder horn/shim/spar/rib together. I had another builder look it over
also, and we are both convinced there must be an error in the way the holes were
punched in the flanges of the rib. Sorry to go on so long, and ideas or similar
experiences while I await Van's answer? Thanks, Glenn in AZ -9A Emp.
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| Subject: | Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
I had a problem with the holes lining up between the spar and the rudder
horn. The horn is made on a different machine so the alignment isn't as
perfect as the rest of the kit.
I didn't have any problems with the skin and the spar holes lining up
though. Do you have some pictures?
Bob
RV-9
Plano, Tx
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Glenn Brasch
Subject: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
I am waiting on an answer from Van's but thought I would check here. In
putting together the rudder skeleton and matching the skins, the bottom rib
pre-punched holes do not line up with the skin, they are off by about 1/4
inch. The rest of the holes match perfectly along the spar and top rib.
There is really nowhere to make a mistake in the bottom skeleton assembly,
i:e: putting together the rudder horn/shim/spar/rib together. I had another
builder look it over also, and we are both convinced there must be an error
in the way the holes were punched in the flanges of the rib. Sorry to go on
so long, and ideas or similar experiences while I await Van's answer?
Thanks, Glenn in AZ -9A Emp.
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| Subject: | ATTENTION: Fuel Tank Rivet Problems |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
I just received replacement closed end rivets from Van's (theoretically
AD41H and AD42H) contained in wing kit bags 810 and 821 respectively.
They were replacements for the rivets I received with my wing kit last
fall. The two previous bags both had the same rivets in them (AD41H
length I believe).
Well, the replacement bags had the same problem. So Van's has a problem
with at least some of the 810 and 821 bags (maybe all).
You should all check the contents of these two bags carefully to make
sure that they are correct, hopefully before you get the fuel tank all
gooped up with pro-seal like I did. :-(
From what I can determine (thanks to Curt Hoffman) the rivet lengths are:
41H- .25" from under the head to the end of the rivet
42H- .30" from under the head to the end of the rivet.
Dick Tasker, 90573
left wing
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
I don't have any pictures, but these holes are not even close, like I said,
at least 1/4 inch off, yet everything else lines up perfectly.
Forgot to say before- do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
Subject: RE: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
>
> I had a problem with the holes lining up between the spar and the rudder
> horn. The horn is made on a different machine so the alignment isn't as
> perfect as the rest of the kit.
>
> I didn't have any problems with the skin and the spar holes lining up
> though. Do you have some pictures?
>
> Bob
> RV-9
> Plano, Tx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Glenn Brasch
> To: rv9-list@matronics.com; RV-9A@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
>
>
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
>
> I am waiting on an answer from Van's but thought I would check here. In
> putting together the rudder skeleton and matching the skins, the bottom
rib
> pre-punched holes do not line up with the skin, they are off by about 1/4
> inch. The rest of the holes match perfectly along the spar and top rib.
> There is really nowhere to make a mistake in the bottom skeleton assembly,
> i:e: putting together the rudder horn/shim/spar/rib together. I had
another
> builder look it over also, and we are both convinced there must be an
error
> in the way the holes were punched in the flanges of the rib. Sorry to go
on
> so long, and ideas or similar experiences while I await Van's answer?
> Thanks, Glenn in AZ -9A Emp.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ATTENTION: Fuel Tank Rivet Problems |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
I am building an RV-7 and have the same problem. I just finished inventory
and found the bags contain the same rivets. It appears the "bins" over at
the factory have been loaded with the same rivets. I will be calling Van's
tomorrow with my list of MIA and "Battle" damaged wing parts.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
Subject: RV9-List: ATTENTION: Fuel Tank Rivet Problems
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker"
<retasker@optonline.net>
>
> I just received replacement closed end rivets from Van's (theoretically
> AD41H and AD42H) contained in wing kit bags 810 and 821 respectively.
> They were replacements for the rivets I received with my wing kit last
> fall. The two previous bags both had the same rivets in them (AD41H
> length I believe).
>
> Well, the replacement bags had the same problem. So Van's has a problem
> with at least some of the 810 and 821 bags (maybe all).
>
> You should all check the contents of these two bags carefully to make
> sure that they are correct, hopefully before you get the fuel tank all
> gooped up with pro-seal like I did. :-(
>
> From what I can determine (thanks to Curt Hoffman) the rivet lengths are:
> 41H- .25" from under the head to the end of the rivet
> 42H- .30" from under the head to the end of the rivet.
>
> Dick Tasker, 90573
> left wing
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "John Oliveira" <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
Silly question, but is the rib upside down?
John Oliveira
Fuselage Just Arrived 90054
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
>
> I don't have any pictures, but these holes are not even close, like I
said,
> at least 1/4 inch off, yet everything else lines up perfectly.
>
> Forgot to say before- do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
> To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
>
>
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
> >
> > I had a problem with the holes lining up between the spar and the rudder
> > horn. The horn is made on a different machine so the alignment isn't as
> > perfect as the rest of the kit.
> >
> > I didn't have any problems with the skin and the spar holes lining up
> > though. Do you have some pictures?
> >
> > Bob
> > RV-9
> > Plano, Tx
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Glenn Brasch
> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com; RV-9A@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
> >
> >
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
> >
> > I am waiting on an answer from Van's but thought I would check here. In
> > putting together the rudder skeleton and matching the skins, the bottom
> rib
> > pre-punched holes do not line up with the skin, they are off by about
1/4
> > inch. The rest of the holes match perfectly along the spar and top rib.
> > There is really nowhere to make a mistake in the bottom skeleton
assembly,
> > i:e: putting together the rudder horn/shim/spar/rib together. I had
> another
> > builder look it over also, and we are both convinced there must be an
> error
> > in the way the holes were punched in the flanges of the rib. Sorry to
go
> on
> > so long, and ideas or similar experiences while I await Van's answer?
> > Thanks, Glenn in AZ -9A Emp.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
No, I triple checked that and the cleckoed assembly. But thanks anyway, I
am open to anything! Glenn in AZ.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Oliveira" <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "John Oliveira" <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
>
> Silly question, but is the rib upside down?
>
> John Oliveira
> Fuselage Just Arrived 90054
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
> To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
>
>
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
> >
> > I don't have any pictures, but these holes are not even close, like I
> said,
> > at least 1/4 inch off, yet everything else lines up perfectly.
> >
> > Forgot to say before- do not archive
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
> >
> >
> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
> > >
> > > I had a problem with the holes lining up between the spar and the
rudder
> > > horn. The horn is made on a different machine so the alignment isn't
as
> > > perfect as the rest of the kit.
> > >
> > > I didn't have any problems with the skin and the spar holes lining up
> > > though. Do you have some pictures?
> > >
> > > Bob
> > > RV-9
> > > Plano, Tx
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Glenn Brasch
> > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com; RV-9A@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RV9-List: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib
> > >
> > >
> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
> > >
> > > I am waiting on an answer from Van's but thought I would check here.
In
> > > putting together the rudder skeleton and matching the skins, the
bottom
> > rib
> > > pre-punched holes do not line up with the skin, they are off by about
> 1/4
> > > inch. The rest of the holes match perfectly along the spar and top
rib.
> > > There is really nowhere to make a mistake in the bottom skeleton
> assembly,
> > > i:e: putting together the rudder horn/shim/spar/rib together. I had
> > another
> > > builder look it over also, and we are both convinced there must be an
> > error
> > > in the way the holes were punched in the flanges of the rib. Sorry to
> go
> > on
> > > so long, and ideas or similar experiences while I await Van's answer?
> > > Thanks, Glenn in AZ -9A Emp.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder 904 (bottom) Rib |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Jen G" <cfiijen@hotmail.com>
Glenn,
I had a HS rib that was stamped wrong. It seems to have been placed in the
die 180 degrees off, all of the holes ended up on top of the flutes. The
remaining ribs were correct. Van's was very good and sent me a new rib right
away. Everyone is away at Sun N Fun right now. It is possible that the rib
was stamped wrong.
Jennifer
RV9A
#90349
N349RV Reserved
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