RV9-List Digest Archive

Tue 04/22/03


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 08:15 AM - Waterborne poly acrylic paint (James R. Render)
     2. 08:16 AM - Re: Flap miscellaneous questions... (Andy Karmy)
     3. 08:34 AM - Re: Waterborne poly acrylic paint (Andy Karmy)
     4. 09:24 AM - Re: Flap miscellaneous questions... (Richard Tasker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:15:12 AM PST US
    From: "James R. Render" <jimpattr@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Waterborne poly acrylic paint
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "James R. Render" <jimpattr@worldnet.att.net> I had read glowing reports of Aircraft Finishing Systems waterborne poly acrylic paint, so I decided to try it on my cowl. The base coat was a disaster, possibly mine, maybe not. Anyway I called the company to discuss the problem. I got no sympathy, only accusations that I had ordered the wrong primer. When I asked about returning the finish coat, more accusations. The company could not accept returned paint; I might have contaminated it. (The seal is still intact). They didn't know where I had stored the paint; the temperature may have been wrong. Finally I gave up and told them that. They then said to return the paint and they would see if they could give me any refund. Didn't sound promising; it wasn't worth the hassle of shipping it back. Caveat emptor! 90487


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    Time: 08:16:08 AM PST US
    From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
    Subject: Re: Flap miscellaneous questions...
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com> The twist issue is up to you and what level of "perfection" you want on your plane. It will fly just fine. You can raise and lower each flap a tad to adjust them and make it fly straight. It's only a tiny amount of drag being added and won't be noticed. As for the pivot bolts, I asked Vans this same question. They are to be finger tight, just tighten until they touch and then back off just a hair. They should pivot freely. If the cotter pin won't engage then use more washers until it fits properly. (this is standard procedure anytime you are using cotter pins) - Andy Karmy RV9A Seattle WA (52hrs TT)!


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    Time: 08:34:51 AM PST US
    From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
    Subject: Re: Waterborne poly acrylic paint
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com> Nice.... Sorry to hear that you had so much trouble. By the way, what primer did you use under the top coat? One thing that is critical with all paint systems (waterbourne or not) is to use compatible paints/primers/thinners/ etc etc etc. When I painted fiberglass (or metal) with AFS I used the 1 part poly primer/sealer (same as the interior skins) then spray the top coat over that. For the rest of us to learn, what was the "disaster" that you speak of? Maby some of us that have used it can help??? - Andy ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "James R. Render" <jimpattr@worldnet.att.net> >--> RV9-List message posted by: "James R. Render" <jimpattr@worldnet.att.net> > >I had read glowing reports of Aircraft Finishing Systems waterborne poly >acrylic paint, so I decided to try it on my cowl. The base coat was a >disaster, possibly mine, maybe not. Anyway I called the company to >discuss the problem. I got no sympathy, only accusations that I had >ordered the wrong primer. When I asked about returning the finish >coat, more accusations. The company could not accept returned paint; I >might have contaminated it. (The seal is still intact). They didn't >know where I had stored the paint; the temperature may have been wrong. >Finally I gave up and told them that. They then said to return the >paint and they would see if they could give me any refund. Didn't sound >promising; it wasn't worth the hassle of shipping it back. > >Caveat emptor! > >90487 > >


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    Time: 09:24:39 AM PST US
    From: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: Flap miscellaneous questions...
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net> Thanks. I suspected that was the answer. It is aggravating to not have the flap perfect :-) , but I did everything according to directions and it still turned out with the little twist. Oh well... I understand what you say about the washers. I just thought that Van's would have mentioned it on the plans rather than being so specific as to the quantity of washers used (two) and wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. Dick Do not archive Andy Karmy wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com> > >The twist issue is up to you and what level of "perfection" you want on your plane. It will fly just fine. You can raise and lower each flap a tad to adjust them and make it fly straight. It's only a tiny amount of drag being added and won't be noticed. > >As for the pivot bolts, I asked Vans this same question. They are to be finger tight, just tighten until they touch and then back off just a hair. They should pivot freely. If the cotter pin won't engage then use more washers until it fits properly. (this is standard procedure anytime you are using cotter pins) > >- Andy Karmy > RV9A Seattle WA (52hrs TT)! > > > >




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