RV9-List Digest Archive

Mon 04/28/03


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:17 AM - Re: glide ratio again, flight characteristics, and riteangle (Andy Karmy)
     2. 08:35 PM - Fuselage Bag 1973 (DLOMHEIM@aol.com)
     3. 09:24 PM - Fuel Lines (JVonDolen@aol.com)
     4. 10:46 PM - Re: Fuel Lines (Gary)
     5. 10:46 PM - Re: Fuselage Bag 1973 (Gary)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:17:58 AM PST US
    From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
    Subject: Re: glide ratio again, flight characteristics, and riteangle
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com> >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Welch, Ivo" <ivo.welch@yale.edu> >At 65mph, my plane seems to be in slow flight already >but when I flew yesterday at 80mph, my sink rate seemed to be >only about 200fpm. I think 200fpm is a bit low... I seem to remember Kevin originally posting about 500fpm was min on that plane. >Q: So, what is the best glide speed and glide ratio? In mine min FPM sink is about 600fpm at 70mph. I have verified my ASI at both low and high speed with GPS and another plane. >There is absolutely no way that you would not notice a stall >coming way, way, way ahead of time. I tend to agree. This is why I also did not think it necessary to put in the right angle. I think the place where it would be neat is to determine best LD for glide. At any weight and density altitude you can fly the best glide with an AOA instrument. As for stalls, if you want to have some fun with them. Roll over into a 80 degree 4G level turn, then pull back until it stalls. It happens at about 90mph and throws you to level. Or another fun one is fully cross controlled rudder & aileron, pull into a stall and bam you're inverted! Nice... Don't try this on the base to final turn that's for sure. But like Ivo said you have to really try to get this type of behaviour out of the RV9, it's not in the standard flight conditions that you will find it. >Q: Are any aerobatic maneuvers permitted in the 9A? >Has anyone tried some? Define permitted... Remember these are homebuilts, they have limits that must be obeyed, they don't have "restrictions" per say... :) Lots of sky turning can be had within +4.4G -1.7G Utility category limits that the RV9 is built to. - Andy


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    Time: 08:35:14 PM PST US
    From: DLOMHEIM@aol.com
    Subject: Fuselage Bag 1973
    --> RV9-List message posted by: DLOMHEIM@aol.com Did any of you by chance receive bag 1973 with your fuselage kits? Under the bag descriptions it lists bag 1973 as having a few washers (5702-75-60) that I need for the control stick hook up, but my pick list only shows bag 1973-1 (which only contains rubber washers). Thanks for any info. Doug Lomheim 90116 Fuselage


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    Time: 09:24:16 PM PST US
    From: JVonDolen@aol.com
    Subject: Fuel Lines
    --> RV9-List message posted by: JVonDolen@aol.com Well after mangling some perfectly good 3/8ths tubing I am starting to believe that it may actually be possible to make and install these lines. I have reversed the brake and fuel lines (or plan to) and am thinking the most difficult part are the little offsets you have to make as the two fuel lines twist around each other going to the opposite ports on the fuel valve. Of course this arrangement gives a pretty intuitive fuel valve handle interpetation, but if it was reversed (especially if I hadn't already ground off the little pointer) with some sort of pointer added or maybe a red arrow painted on the top of the handle directed at "left tank/right tank" decals positioned in the lower left and right quadrants of the fuel valve plate, that should be pretty brain dead too. And the two fuel lines would be way easier to do if the cross over was avoided. I can't help but believe that those ends are subjected to some trama as the offsets are put in. Is this heresy or has anyone actually done it reversed, ie, straight fuel line runs, and what is your opinion about this? Thanks, John Von Dohlen


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    Time: 10:46:22 PM PST US
    From: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lines
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net> I didn't have too much trouble making mine cross over so the valve is intuitive. I thought that crossing them over actually gave more room for the bends. I ground off the little pointer and use the handle for the pointer. I did switch the lines where they go through the little brackets and gear webs, as you say. I could send a photo off list if you want. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: JVonDolen@aol.com To: rv9-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: RV9-List: Fuel Lines --> RV9-List message posted by: JVonDolen@aol.com Well after mangling some perfectly good 3/8ths tubing I am starting to believe that it may actually be possible to make and install these lines. I have reversed the brake and fuel lines (or plan to) and am thinking the most difficult part are the little offsets you have to make as the two fuel lines twist around each other going to the opposite ports on the fuel valve. Of course this arrangement gives a pretty intuitive fuel valve handle interpetation, but if it was reversed (especially if I hadn't already ground off the little pointer) with some sort of pointer added or maybe a red arrow painted on the top of the handle directed at "left tank/right tank" decals positioned in the lower left and right quadrants of the fuel valve plate, that should be pretty brain dead too. And the two fuel lines would be way easier to do if the cross over was avoided. I can't help but believe that those ends are subjected to some trama as the offsets are put in. Is this heresy or has anyone actually done it reversed, ie, straight fuel line runs, and what is your opinion about this? Thanks, John Von Dohlen --- Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/11/03


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    Time: 10:46:22 PM PST US
    From: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuselage Bag 1973
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net> I got 'em with mine, #90263. I also ordered some extras later for places where the regular washers won't fit. Gary Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: DLOMHEIM@aol.com To: rv9-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: RV9-List: Fuselage Bag 1973 --> RV9-List message posted by: DLOMHEIM@aol.com Did any of you by chance receive bag 1973 with your fuselage kits? Under the bag descriptions it lists bag 1973 as having a few washers (5702-75-60) that I need for the control stick hook up, but my pick list only shows bag 1973-1 (which only contains rubber washers). Thanks for any info. Doug Lomheim 90116 Fuselage --- Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/11/03




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