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     1. 08:17 AM - Re: glide ratio again, flight characteristics, and riteangle (Andy Karmy)
     2. 08:35 PM - Fuselage Bag 1973 (DLOMHEIM@aol.com)
     3. 09:24 PM - Fuel Lines (JVonDolen@aol.com)
     4. 10:46 PM - Re: Fuel Lines (Gary)
     5. 10:46 PM - Re: Fuselage Bag 1973 (Gary)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: glide ratio again, flight characteristics, and riteangle | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
      
      >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Welch, Ivo" <ivo.welch@yale.edu>
      
      >At 65mph, my plane seems to be in slow flight already
      >but when I flew yesterday at 80mph, my sink rate seemed to be 
      >only about 200fpm. 
      
      I think 200fpm is a bit low... I seem to remember Kevin originally posting about
      500fpm was min on that plane.
      
      >Q: So, what is the best glide speed and glide ratio?
      
      In mine min FPM sink is about 600fpm at 70mph. I have verified my ASI at both low
      and high speed with GPS and another plane.
      
      >There is absolutely no way that you would not notice a stall 
      >coming way, way, way ahead of time.
      
      I tend to agree. This is why I also did not think it necessary to put in the right
      angle. I think the place where it would be neat is to determine best LD for
      glide. At any weight and density altitude you can fly the best glide with an
      AOA instrument. 
      
      As for stalls, if you want to have some fun with them. Roll over into a 80 degree
      4G level turn, then pull back until it stalls. It happens at about 90mph and
      throws you to level. Or another fun one is fully cross controlled rudder & aileron,
      pull into a stall and bam you're inverted! Nice... Don't try this on the
      base to final turn that's for sure. But like Ivo said you have to really try
      to get this type of behaviour out of the RV9, it's not in the standard flight
      conditions that you will find it.
      
      >Q: Are any aerobatic maneuvers permitted in the 9A?  
      >Has anyone tried some?
      
      Define permitted... Remember these are homebuilts, they have limits that must be
      obeyed, they don't have "restrictions" per say... :)
      
      Lots of sky turning can be had within +4.4G -1.7G Utility category limits that
      the RV9 is built to.
      
      - Andy
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fuselage Bag 1973 | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: DLOMHEIM@aol.com
      
      Did any of you by chance receive bag 1973 with your fuselage kits?  Under the 
      bag descriptions it lists bag 1973 as having a few washers (5702-75-60) that 
      I need for the control stick hook up, but my pick list only shows bag 1973-1 
      (which only contains rubber washers).    Thanks for any info.  
      
      Doug Lomheim
      90116 Fuselage  
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: JVonDolen@aol.com
      
      Well after mangling some perfectly good 3/8ths tubing I am starting to 
      believe that it may actually be possible to make and install these lines. I 
      have reversed the brake and fuel lines (or plan to) and am thinking the most 
      difficult part are the little offsets
      you have to make as the two fuel lines twist around each other going to the 
      opposite ports on the fuel valve. Of course this arrangement gives a pretty 
      intuitive fuel valve handle interpetation, but if it was reversed (especially 
      if I hadn't already ground off the little pointer) with some sort of pointer 
      added or maybe a red arrow painted on the top of the handle directed at "left 
      tank/right tank" decals positioned in the lower left and right quadrants of 
      the fuel valve plate, that should be pretty brain dead too. And the two fuel 
      lines would be way easier to do if the cross over was avoided.
      
      I can't help but believe that those ends are subjected to some trama as the 
      offsets are put in.
      
      Is this heresy or has anyone actually done it reversed, ie, straight fuel 
      line runs, and what is your opinion about this?
      
      Thanks,
      
      John Von Dohlen
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
      
      I didn't have too much trouble making mine cross over so the valve is intuitive.
      I thought that crossing them over actually gave more room for the bends.
      
       I ground off the little pointer and use the handle for the pointer.  I did switch
      the lines where they go through the little brackets and gear webs, as you
      say.
      
      I could send a photo off list if you want.
      
      Gary
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: JVonDolen@aol.com
        To: rv9-list@matronics.com
        Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:23 PM
        Subject: RV9-List: Fuel Lines
      
      
        --> RV9-List message posted by: JVonDolen@aol.com
      
        Well after mangling some perfectly good 3/8ths tubing I am starting to 
        believe that it may actually be possible to make and install these lines. I
        have reversed the brake and fuel lines (or plan to) and am thinking the most
        difficult part are the little offsets
        you have to make as the two fuel lines twist around each other going to the
        opposite ports on the fuel valve. Of course this arrangement gives a pretty
        intuitive fuel valve handle interpetation, but if it was reversed (especially
        if I hadn't already ground off the little pointer) with some sort of pointer
        added or maybe a red arrow painted on the top of the handle directed at "left
        tank/right tank" decals positioned in the lower left and right quadrants of
        the fuel valve plate, that should be pretty brain dead too. And the two fuel
        lines would be way easier to do if the cross over was avoided.
      
        I can't help but believe that those ends are subjected to some trama as the
        offsets are put in.
      
        Is this heresy or has anyone actually done it reversed, ie, straight fuel
        line runs, and what is your opinion about this?
      
        Thanks,
      
        John Von Dohlen
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage Bag 1973 | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
      
      I got 'em with mine, #90263.  I also ordered some extras later for places where
      the regular washers won't fit.
      
      Gary
      
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        ----- Original Message -----
        From: DLOMHEIM@aol.com
        To: rv9-list@matronics.com
        Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 9:34 PM
        Subject: RV9-List: Fuselage Bag 1973
      
      
        --> RV9-List message posted by: DLOMHEIM@aol.com
      
        Did any of you by chance receive bag 1973 with your fuselage kits?  Under the
        bag descriptions it lists bag 1973 as having a few washers (5702-75-60) that
        I need for the control stick hook up, but my pick list only shows bag 1973-1
        (which only contains rubber washers).    Thanks for any info. 
      
        Doug Lomheim
        90116 Fuselage 
      
      
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        Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/11/03
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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