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1. 06:29 AM - Re: glide ratio again, flight characteristics, and riteangle (Welch, Ivo)
2. 09:19 AM - Re: Fuselage Bag 1973 (Dean)
3. 01:59 PM - Fuel Lines (JVonDolen@aol.com)
4. 02:54 PM - Ordering Wings - What else? (Matthew Brandes)
5. 03:57 PM - Re: Ordering Wings - What else? (John Oliveira)
6. 04:02 PM - Re: Ordering Wings - What else? (John Oliveira)
7. 06:26 PM - Re: Ordering Wings - What else? (Gary)
8. 07:01 PM - Re: Fuel Lines (DThomas773@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: glide ratio again, flight characteristics, and riteangle |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Welch, Ivo" <ivo.welch@yale.edu>
hi andy: I have minimal positive thrust even in idle, because my small prop
(little inertia) requires more RPM to reliably keep the engine alive.
However,
I am very surprised that you only get 500fpm minimal glide. My airplane
does
seem to have less FPM. I will check again with another prop in a month or
so,
and report back.
The AOA from Riteangle is not a precise instrument for glideslope flying.
It is
more of an advanced emergency warning. (It only has some LEDs as meter.) I
can
only repeat that I would rather spend the money on a Dynon EFIS or on a
trutrak
Altrak. Which reminds me: I still need to locate a good and affordable
avionics
shop on the east coast.
Hmmm...I have never tried any aerobatics, so I better start looking for a
good
instructor. I have no idea what +4.4G -1.7G really means in practice. Is
there
a list of "good idea maneuvers" and "bad idea maneuvers" within this range?
(Yes, I know that even in straight flight I could exceed this; still, some
guidelines here would help.)
Regards,
/iaw
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| Subject: | Re: Fuselage Bag 1973 |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
Doug
I received bag 1973 with my fuselage kit, S/N 90095, which was also
correctly listed on my pick list. It had to be some kind of hitch at Van's
in the pick list that caused the wrong bag to be pulled for your kit.
Dean Van Winkle
Fuselage/Finish Kit
----- Original Message -----
From: <DLOMHEIM@aol.com>
Subject: RV9-List: Fuselage Bag 1973
> --> RV9-List message posted by: DLOMHEIM@aol.com
>
> Did any of you by chance receive bag 1973 with your fuselage kits? Under
the
> bag descriptions it lists bag 1973 as having a few washers (5702-75-60)
that
> I need for the control stick hook up, but my pick list only shows bag
1973-1
> (which only contains rubber washers). Thanks for any info.
>
> Doug Lomheim
> 90116 Fuselage
>
>
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--> RV9-List message posted by: JVonDolen@aol.com
Thans Gary, actualy I've played with it some more and now feel that the
crossover arrangement might actually be easier--you've got more distance from
the snap bushing to make vertical adjustments.
John Von Dohlen
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| Subject: | Ordering Wings - What else? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Matthew Brandes <mbrandes@irr.com>
I'm going to be placing my order for wings early next week and I know not
everything I am going to need comes with. I'd like to see if I can get
lucky and order all the 'extra' parts in one shot from Van's. I'm
soliciting the groups ideas for the 'extra's' I need to purchase. I'll
compile a list and make it available for others.
Here's my short list so far.
- Fuel senders
- Landing lights?
- Conduit for wiring
- Pitot (if not using homemade version)
Surely there are other items I'm going to need. Any special tools that I
didn't need when building the empennage? (Already purchased tank dimple
dies.)
Matthew Brandes
RV-9A Wings soon
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| Subject: | Re: Ordering Wings - What else? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "John Oliveira" <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
Wing tip lights/strobes I also ordered the tip with flush lenses.
Plate nuts and screws for wing tip mounting if you plan to make them
removable.
I also ordered the fuel pick ups already made up. You might want to pick up
the ProSeal tank sealant depending on how long it will be. It theoretically
has a shelf life of 6 months, but is typically 2 months old (dated) when you
get it. I delayed my second tank until after the first wing was done and it
had expired. I ordered more. Testing showed the cure rates were the same
for both batches, but better safe than sorry. In the whole scheme of
things, what is another $35.
John Oliveira
Working of fuselage 90054 N909RV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Brandes" <mbrandes@irr.com>
Subject: RV9-List: Ordering Wings - What else?
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Matthew Brandes <mbrandes@irr.com>
>
> I'm going to be placing my order for wings early next week and I know not
> everything I am going to need comes with. I'd like to see if I can get
> lucky and order all the 'extra' parts in one shot from Van's. I'm
> soliciting the groups ideas for the 'extra's' I need to purchase. I'll
> compile a list and make it available for others.
>
> Here's my short list so far.
>
> - Fuel senders
> - Landing lights?
> - Conduit for wiring
> - Pitot (if not using homemade version)
>
> Surely there are other items I'm going to need. Any special tools that I
> didn't need when building the empennage? (Already purchased tank dimple
> dies.)
>
> Matthew Brandes
> RV-9A Wings soon
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ordering Wings - What else? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "John Oliveira" <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
Thought of a couple of tools.
1. Long Back Riveting set from Avery.
2. Mushroom Back Riveting bucking bar. I did backriveted all my upper wing
skins and definitely worth it.
3. If you have a rivet squeezer (pneumatic) get the long thin Jaws without
a hole. they get to a lot of places, and will do the whole rear spar as
they reach over the upper skin sticking out.
4 Also time to get a flaring tool or borrow it as you need it right away
for the tank vents. The one for about $75 from Avery is real nice. It does
multiple tube sizes.
John Oliveira
Working on Fuselage 90054 N909RV
Can hardly wait to be able to come back "niner Romeo Victor"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Brandes" <mbrandes@irr.com>
Subject: RV9-List: Ordering Wings - What else?
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Matthew Brandes <mbrandes@irr.com>
>
> I'm going to be placing my order for wings early next week and I know not
> everything I am going to need comes with. I'd like to see if I can get
> lucky and order all the 'extra' parts in one shot from Van's. I'm
> soliciting the groups ideas for the 'extra's' I need to purchase. I'll
> compile a list and make it available for others.
>
> Here's my short list so far.
>
> - Fuel senders
> - Landing lights?
> - Conduit for wiring
> - Pitot (if not using homemade version)
>
> Surely there are other items I'm going to need. Any special tools that I
> didn't need when building the empennage? (Already purchased tank dimple
> dies.)
>
> Matthew Brandes
> RV-9A Wings soon
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ordering Wings - What else? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
Proseal lasts for years kept in the freezer. Even the Military does this.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: John Oliveira
To: rv9-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Ordering Wings - What else?
--> RV9-List message posted by: "John Oliveira" <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
Wing tip lights/strobes I also ordered the tip with flush lenses.
Plate nuts and screws for wing tip mounting if you plan to make them
removable.
I also ordered the fuel pick ups already made up. You might want to pick up
the ProSeal tank sealant depending on how long it will be. It theoretically
has a shelf life of 6 months, but is typically 2 months old (dated) when you
get it. I delayed my second tank until after the first wing was done and it
had expired. I ordered more. Testing showed the cure rates were the same
for both batches, but better safe than sorry. In the whole scheme of
things, what is another $35.
John Oliveira
Working of fuselage 90054 N909RV
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--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
You will need a flaring tool for your fuel lines, fuel tank vent line and
pitotlines. Be sure you get a 37 degree aircraft tool and not the 45 degree
automotive type.
Dennis Thomas
fuselage
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