---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/05/03: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:52 AM - Re: OOPS Rivets ?? (John Oliveira) 2. 06:40 AM - matched holes (Peter Laurence) 3. 07:50 AM - Re: matched holes (DThomas773@aol.com) 4. 07:53 AM - Re: OOPS Rivets ?? (DThomas773@aol.com) 5. 08:29 AM - Parachutes for Sale (Ed Kowalski) 6. 11:11 AM - Re: OOPS Rivets ?? (JOHN KERR) 7. 02:40 PM - Rudder bottom fairing (Matthew Brandes) 8. 06:15 PM - Re: matched holes (fcs@jlc.net) 9. 06:19 PM - Re: Rudder bottom fairing (fcs@jlc.net) 10. 06:44 PM - Re: OOPS Rivets ?? (larry-perryman) 11. 07:21 PM - Re: Waterborne poly acrylic paint (JASON W SHEPHERD) 12. 09:47 PM - Re: matched holes (Ralph Cloud) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:23 AM PST US From: "John Oliveira" Subject: Re: RV9-List: OOPS Rivets ?? --> RV9-List message posted by: "John Oliveira" Try a 1/8, and shave the head. John Oliveira Fuselage 90054 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV9-List: OOPS Rivets ?? > --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com > > I need oops rivets longer than -6. 7 or 8's woulf be good. Van's and A/C > Spruce only stock them up to 6's. Anybody know where I can find them? > > Dennis Thomas > fuselage > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:23 AM PST US From: Peter Laurence Subject: RV9-List: matched holes --> RV9-List message posted by: Peter Laurence When placing the main ribs into the rear of the horizontal stab forward spar the forward most hole in the main rib tab (flange) does not line up with the"matched "hole in the flange of the forward spar. I'm off about a third of the hole diameter . The rib would have to be moved further forward to line up. Has anyone had this problem or is it a computer mismatch at Vans. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:54 AM PST US From: DThomas773@aol.com Subject: Re: RV9-List: matched holes --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com This seems to happen when the little tab gets bent a lttle as it is being pushed into position. Do the other holes in the rib line up? If so your little tab is probably just bent. Use your smallest centering pin, slip it in the hole and you should be able to re-align the tab. If all the holes in the rib are missaligned the same amount the rib is probably not all the way into it's proper position. Don't be shy about calling the tech people at Van'. They are really friendly and eager to help. They have had plenty of dumb questions from me and havn't laughed once. Good Luck. Dennis Thomas fuselage Do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:16 AM PST US From: DThomas773@aol.com Subject: Re: RV9-List: OOPS Rivets ?? --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com Thanks John, Good idea. I only need 2 so that would be a lot smarter than hunting a supplier and waiting a week for delivery. Dennis Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:09 AM PST US From: "Ed Kowalski" Subject: RV9-List: Parachutes for Sale --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ed Kowalski" Two new strong Parachutes for sale. $1200.00 each new. One back and One seat. $600.00 each plus shipping and handling. E-mail salned@msn.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:48 AM PST US From: JOHN KERR Subject: Re: RV9-List: OOPS Rivets ?? --> RV9-List message posted by: JOHN KERR is there a rivet that will eliminate my "oops"? ----- Original Message ----- From: DThomas773@aol.com Subject: RV9-List: OOPS Rivets ?? > --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com > > I need oops rivets longer than -6. 7 or 8's woulf be good. Van's > and A/C > Spruce only stock them up to 6's. Anybody know where I can find them? > > Dennis Thomas > fuselage > > > _- > ======================================================================_- = - The RV9-List Email Forum - > _- > ======================================================================_- = !! NEWish !! > _- > ======================================================================_- = List Related Information > _- > ====================================================================== > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:55 PM PST US From: "Matthew Brandes" Subject: RV9-List: Rudder bottom fairing --> RV9-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" Starting to play with the tips. So far it looks like I (we) will have to do some reworking on them to get them to fit and look good. Looking at the bottom fairing for the rudder and it appears that the scribe line is off by nearly 1/2". If I cut at the scribe line, the trailing edge of the fairing will be 1/2" behind the trailing edge of the rudder. (Rudder to far forward) For those of you that mounted your rudder bottom, did yours line up correctly? Did you cut at the scribe line? Matthew RV-9A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:27 PM PST US From: "fcs@jlc.net" Subject: RE: RV9-List: matched holes --> RV9-List message posted by: "fcs@jlc.net" Peter, You'll soon discover that your job as the builder is to make things fit. Don't be shy about bending, prying, and using friendly coersion to align the parts. If you can see through the pair of holes, they will fit. Obviously if you think something is seriously wrong, ask Vans or post a photo, but most of the "it doesn't fit" type reports are from empennage builders who either have something backwards (study the blueprints) or haven't reached the all important aluminum zen yet. Line it up, drill it, stick a rivet in it! Gary ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:19 PM PST US From: "fcs@jlc.net" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Rudder bottom fairing --> RV9-List message posted by: "fcs@jlc.net" I cut exactly on the scribe lines and the fit was perfect. You aren't by chance trying to slip the fairing over the rudder bottom are you? i.e. forgetting about the screw strips you have to make? I have heard many others report the lines to be accurate too. Any chance you got the wrong model tip? ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:14 PM PST US From: "larry-perryman" Subject: RE: RV9-List: OOPS Rivets ?? --> RV9-List message posted by: "larry-perryman" Dennis, Why not go ahead and drill it out for a 4 rivet. As I recall, the only places where you need a 3 that long are places that are not readily seen. Even so, one rivet out of size once painted will not be apparent. Regards Larry Perryman -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DThomas773@aol.com Subject: RV9-List: OOPS Rivets ?? --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com I need oops rivets longer than -6. 7 or 8's woulf be good. Van's and A/C Spruce only stock them up to 6's. Anybody know where I can find them? Dennis Thomas fuselage ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:30 PM PST US From: "JASON W SHEPHERD" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Waterborne poly acrylic paint --> RV9-List message posted by: "JASON W SHEPHERD" Jim, Sorry I've been off the net but I just got back from my yearly active duty. At least I'm now in legal services and not in the infantry. I did get to scrounge a great ride on a Blackhawk which was fun. As to the paint, do you think it is a product defect? Have you tracked down the source of the problem? If there is anything I can do to help let me know. Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "James R. Render" Subject: RV9-List: Waterborne poly acrylic paint > --> RV9-List message posted by: "James R. Render" > > I had read glowing reports of Aircraft Finishing Systems waterborne poly > acrylic paint, so I decided to try it on my cowl. The base coat was a > disaster, possibly mine, maybe not. Anyway I called the company to > discuss the problem. I got no sympathy, only accusations that I had > ordered the wrong primer. When I asked about returning the finish > coat, more accusations. The company could not accept returned paint; I > might have contaminated it. (The seal is still intact). They didn't > know where I had stored the paint; the temperature may have been wrong. > Finally I gave up and told them that. They then said to return the > paint and they would see if they could give me any refund. Didn't sound > promising; it wasn't worth the hassle of shipping it back. > > Caveat emptor! > > 90487 > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:47:56 PM PST US From: "Ralph Cloud" Subject: RE: RV9-List: matched holes --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ralph Cloud" Peter, Get an awl. You'll find it is great at getting the holes aligned when assembling parts. Ralph Wings (kindof) do not archive > > When placing the main ribs into the rear of the horizontal stab > forward spar the forward most hole in the main rib tab (flange) > does not line up with the"matched "hole in the flange of the forward spar. > I'm off about a third of the hole diameter . The rib would have > to be moved further forward to line up. > > Has anyone had this problem or is it a computer mismatch at Vans. > >