---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/12/03: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:23 AM - Re: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler (Pitner, Timothy) 2. 12:23 PM - Re: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler (Terry Hobert) 3. 03:43 PM - New Online Store (Stein Bruch) 4. 09:17 PM - Re: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler (Ken Moak) 5. 10:29 PM - Cautionary on Epoxy mixing cups (Leland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:14 AM PST US From: "Pitner, Timothy" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler --> RV9-List message posted by: "Pitner, Timothy" Larry, I agree with both, but would like to add one. If the hole is not the correct size for the rivet (wallered out) it will bend as well. Tim (on the wanna-be list, ex-aircraft mech) -----Original Message----- From: larry-perryman [mailto:larry-perryman@txucom.net] Subject: RE: RV9-List: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler --> RV9-List message posted by: "larry-perryman" Terry, There are two possible reasons for bending the rivets. 1. The rivets are to long for the application. 2. The squeezer is not square with the rivet. Either one would cause the problem you are describing. Regards Larry Perryman ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:11 PM PST US From: "Terry Hobert" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler --> RV9-List message posted by: "Terry Hobert" Thanks for the tips quys, yeah I figured all those reasons. However, the holes were drilled #30, I changed rivet dies (cause I though maybe one was not squared), I even used another squeezer, I purposely made sure to keep everything square and straight while squeezing slowly. You could almost see the point at which the rivet would head south! Anyway, I think a length of 4.5 instead of 5 may be the answer. There are not 470AD4-4.5 rivets in the emp or wing kit, so maybe I should just order a rivet cutter for these situations? I really think now it is the length, even when driving the rivets I had to be really careful and controled, they still wanted to bend! Thanks again All, Terry wings 90680 >From: "Pitner, Timothy" >Reply-To: rv9-list@matronics.com >To: "'rv9-list@matronics.com'" >Subject: RE: RV9-List: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler >Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:22:24 -0700 > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Pitner, Timothy" > >Larry, > >I agree with both, but would like to add one. If the hole is not the >correct size for the rivet (wallered out) it will bend as well. > >Tim >(on the wanna-be list, ex-aircraft mech) > >-----Original Message----- >From: larry-perryman [mailto:larry-perryman@txucom.net] >To: rv9-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV9-List: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler > > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "larry-perryman" > > >Terry, > >There are two possible reasons for bending the rivets. > >1. The rivets are to long for the application. > >2. The squeezer is not square with the rivet. > >Either one would cause the problem you are describing. > >Regards >Larry Perryman > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:33 PM PST US From: "Stein Bruch" "Rv8-List" , "Rv9-List" , "Rv-List" Subject: RV9-List: New Online Store --> RV9-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" Hi All, Sorry for the plug here, but I just finished the first part of my new online store. Items for sale include ATO blade fuses, fuse blocks, terminals, wire, and more to come. Same brand and quality of products, but %25-50 cheaper than most other places on the web (Van's, etc..). Wes able to negotiate some great deals with suppliers so we all can save money. The store is on my website at: http://www.steinair.com and click on "store". Cheers, Stein Bruch Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:55 PM PST US From: Ken Moak Subject: RE: RV9-List: Countersinking of rear wing spar doubler --> RV9-List message posted by: Ken Moak I have had a couple of problems and bought a rivet cutter from Avery. I found I can use a belt sander to shorten them just a bit. Use your gauge to make sure you don't get too short. Ken Wings 90508 --- Terry Hobert wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Terry Hobert" > > > Thanks for the tips quys, yeah I figured all those > reasons. However, the > holes were drilled #30, I changed rivet dies (cause > I though maybe one was > not squared), I even used another squeezer, I > purposely made sure to keep > everything square and straight while squeezing > slowly. You could almost see > the point at which the rivet would head south! > Anyway, I think a length of > 4.5 instead of 5 may be the answer. There are not > 470AD4-4.5 rivets in the > emp or wing kit, so maybe I should just order a > rivet cutter for these > situations? I really think now it is the length, > even when driving the > rivets I had to be really careful and controled, > they still wanted to bend! > > Thanks again All, > Terry wings 90680 > > > >From: "Pitner, Timothy" > >Reply-To: rv9-list@matronics.com > >To: "'rv9-list@matronics.com'" > > >Subject: RE: RV9-List: Countersinking of rear wing > spar doubler > >Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:22:24 -0700 > > > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Pitner, Timothy" > > > > >Larry, > > > >I agree with both, but would like to add one. If > the hole is not the > >correct size for the rivet (wallered out) it will > bend as well. > > > >Tim > >(on the wanna-be list, ex-aircraft mech) > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: larry-perryman > [mailto:larry-perryman@txucom.net] > >To: rv9-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RE: RV9-List: Countersinking of rear wing > spar doubler > > > > > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "larry-perryman" > > > > > >Terry, > > > >There are two possible reasons for bending the > rivets. > > > >1. The rivets are to long for the application. > > > >2. The squeezer is not square with the rivet. > > > >Either one would cause the problem you are > describing. > > > >Regards > >Larry Perryman > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV9-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:59 PM PST US From: Leland Subject: RV9-List: Cautionary on Epoxy mixing cups --> RV9-List message posted by: Leland Several months ago I bought a package of 3 oz "Epoxy Mixing Cups" from Aircraft Spruce, P/N 01-25600. Unfortunately these cups are "waxed", and wax prevents mixed epoxy from curing. I ruined three small batches of epoxy before determining that the problem was with the cups. Fortunately, cleaning the applied epoxy off the parts was easy. Leland in Pleasanton Firewall Forward Kit Do Not Archive