---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/23/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:29 AM - RV9A Stabilizer (Warren Smith) 2. 03:57 AM - Re: RV9A Stabilizer (MICK MULLER) 3. 06:37 AM - Re: RV9A Stabilizer (Sargentclt@cs.com) 4. 09:30 AM - Re: RV9A Stabilizer (DThomas773@aol.com) 5. 11:55 AM - Re: RV9-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 08/22/03 (James Murray) 6. 12:51 PM - ACS2002 (Steve Sampson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:55 AM PST US From: "Warren Smith" Subject: RV9-List: RV9A Stabilizer --> RV9-List message posted by: "Warren Smith" Hi Guys=0D =0D Horizontal Stabilizer RV9A=0D I don't know if any one else has came across this in the manual for the RV9a in section 6 /6-2 in paragraph 8 on this page it says to match drill the skins to the skeletal structure, enlarging the prepunched 3/32 inch holes to #40, this I think is a mistake as the rivets supplied for this are exact for the 3/32 hole if they are drilled out to #40 the rivets will fall straight through the holes, either I'm missing something or someone at Van's have goofed.=0D =0D The rivets supplied are: AN426AD3-4.=0D =0D As I have not drilled these holes as yet and don't intend to until this is clarified.=0D =0D Any comment or help in this regard will be most appreciated.=0D =0D Thanks Guys=0D =0D Warren Smith=0D Builder from Sydney, Australia.=0D adslf45i@tpg.com.au ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:22 AM PST US From: "MICK MULLER" Subject: Re: RV9-List: RV9A Stabilizer --> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" Warren, As another builder from Australia, trust me on this one. It is correct to drill out the holes to #40. You will have difficulty putting a rivet in this hole. The rivets expand significantly when you drive them. #40 drill is 0.098 inches , or 2.45 Ml (to put it into real measurements ;0), or 5/32 of an inch. Check that you really have a # 40 drill bit. I suggest you get some of the scrap aluminium sheets that Vans ship with the kit, and drill a 3/32 hole. Try putting the rivet in. Then drill it out to #40 and repeat the exercise. If you still have difficulty, email me off line . Mick Muller in Central Victoria. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Smith" Subject: RV9-List: RV9A Stabilizer > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Warren Smith" > > Hi Guys=0D > =0D > Horizontal Stabilizer RV9A=0D > I don't know if any one else has came across this in the manual for the RV9a > in section 6 /6-2 in paragraph 8 on this page it says to match drill the > skins to the skeletal structure, enlarging the prepunched 3/32 inch holes > to #40, this I think is a mistake as the rivets supplied for this are exact > for the 3/32 hole if they are drilled out to #40 the rivets will fall > straight through the holes, either I'm missing something or someone at Van's > have goofed.=0D > =0D > The rivets supplied are: AN426AD3-4.=0D > =0D > As I have not drilled these holes as yet and don't intend to until this is > clarified.=0D > =0D > Any comment or help in this regard will be most appreciated.=0D > =0D > Thanks Guys=0D > =0D > Warren Smith=0D > Builder from Sydney, Australia.=0D > adslf45i@tpg.com.au > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:16 AM PST US From: Sargentclt@cs.com Subject: Re: RV9-List: RV9A Stabilizer --> RV9-List message posted by: Sargentclt@cs.com Great news You are not alone. As I began building my RV7A which is similar to the RV9 I went through the same doubts as you. Just remember all the holes Van has drilled are one size too small by one size. Example the #40 hole you are to drill is actually a #41. Another reminder for me is the larger the number on the drill bit the small the hole diameter. And further, the spring depth stops I used reminded me of which size to use. The gold one is #30 or 1/8 inch and the silver is #40 or 3/32. Also the clecos are the same color. All of this becomes intuitive very quickly. But as always use the resources you have. There is not a dumb question, only dumb answers. Tad Sargent, finished the emp. and waiting for the wings ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:13 AM PST US From: DThomas773@aol.com Subject: Re: RV9-List: RV9A Stabilizer --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com Hi Warren, The advice you are getting is absolutly right. #40 drill for the little rivets, #30 for the big ones. All the rivets you will need to drive in the kit are one or the other of these sizes. And yes, if you place a 3/32 rivet in the hole drilled with a number 40 bit it will seem loose,but will expand to a nice tight fit when driven. Good luck and good fun with your project. Dennis Thomas wiring ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:29 AM PST US From: James Murray Subject: RV9-List: Re: RV9-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 08/22/03 --> RV9-List message posted by: James Murray I used the ACS2002. I ran a hose to the firewall and mounted the manifold pressure transducer using standard fittings. --- RV9-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete RV9-List Digest can be also be > found in either > of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file > includes the Digest > formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and > features Hyperlinked > Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file > includes the plain ASCII > version of the RV9-List Digest and can be viewed > with a generic > text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv9-list/Digest.RV9-List.2003-08-22.html > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv9-list/Digest.RV9-List.2003-08-22.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > > > RV9-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri > 08/22/03: 3 > > > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 11:50 AM - Re: RV9-List Digest: firewall > insulation (Bobdeva@aol.com) > 2. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: RV9-List Digest: firewall > insulation (Ralph Cloud) > 3. 01:02 PM - ACS2002 and manifold pressure > (Steve Sampson) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:50:46 AM PST US > From: Bobdeva@aol.com > Subject: RV9-List: Re: RV9-List Digest: firewall > insulation > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Bobdeva@aol.com > > I bought all my sound and heat insulation for > Skandia-inc.com. Large > selection, all fire-coded and FAA approved. Not > cheap, but like a lot of things, > > you get what you pay for. Also bought my Confor for > the seats there. > Bob Devaney > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:52:28 PM PST US > From: "Ralph Cloud" > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Re: RV9-List Digest: firewall > insulation > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ralph Cloud" > > > For more information on soundproofing, check this > website. It is a > storehouse of information > > http://www.soundproofing.org/ > > Ralph > Livermore > Wings > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On > Behalf Of Bobdeva@aol.com > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:49 AM > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV9-List: Re: RV9-List Digest: firewall > insulation > > > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Bobdeva@aol.com > > > > I bought all my sound and heat insulation for > Skandia-inc.com. Large > > selection, all fire-coded and FAA approved. Not > cheap, but like > > a lot of things, > > you get what you pay for. Also bought my Confor > for the seats there. > > Bob Devaney > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:02:01 PM PST US > From: "Steve Sampson" > Subject: RV9-List: ACS2002 and manifold pressure > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > > Can anyone tell me if the manifold pressure sensor > on the ACS2002 is in the > instrument or can be mounted remotely? > > The reason for this is that I am not sure if I need > to install the manifold > pressure pipe from the engine to the firewall > included in the FWF kit or > not. It would be easiest to take a transducer to a > cylinder but perhaps that > is not how it works. Also, is the ACS2002 typical of > these engine monitors? > I havnt yet made a final decision as to > instrumentation though the ACS is > the way I am leaning. > > Thanks, Steve. > > #90360 > Finish and FWF > UK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV9-List.htm > === message truncated === __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:49 PM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV9-List: ACS2002 --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" James - could the transducer fitted onto the engine itself? Thanks, Steve. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Murray Subject: RV9-List: Re: RV9-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 08/22/03 --> RV9-List message posted by: James Murray I used the ACS2002. I ran a hose to the firewall and mounted the manifold pressure transducer using standard fittings.