RV9-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/25/03


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:53 AM - WORM SWEN_A (L. Mark Thomasson)
     2. 10:29 AM - EFIS & IFR (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
     3. 02:07 PM - Re: Oil door catches (Steve Sampson)
     4. 02:28 PM - Re: Real tear jerker (Mark Schrimmer)
     5. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: Real tear jerker (Joe Wiza)
     6. 06:40 PM - Trim Tab Lower Bend (Douglas A. Fischer)
     7. 06:57 PM - Fw: [RV-9A] Re: AFS Primer (Douglas A. Fischer)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:53:59 AM PST US
    From: "L. Mark Thomasson" <lmthomasson@adelphia.net>
    Subject: WORM SWEN_A
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "L. Mark Thomasson" <lmthomasson@adelphia.net> My anti-virus is catching 8 to 10 messages a day with the Worm SWEN_A attached. Will everybody please at least run the free virus checker at www.antivirus.com and remove the worm from your system if you have it.


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    Time: 10:29:34 AM PST US
    From: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
    "Rv9-List@Matronics. Com" <rv9-list@matronics.com>, "Rv8-List@Matronics. Com" <rv8-list@matronics.com>, "Rv7-List@Matronics. Com" <rv7-list@matronics.com>, "Rv6-List@Matronics. Com" <rv6-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: EFIS & IFR
    SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS --> RV9-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net> It appears that these FAA regs alone are not enough. My FAA representative and our FAA DAR (who is a homebuilder, too!) has told me that it is not sufficient to follow all the rules; instead, an FAA rep or DAR needs to positively approve it. If the instrument avionics are not TSO'ed or equivalent, then they will not sign off on it. Period. Without the FAA positive approval, even if you do not violate any FAA regs, you cannot fly IFR. I think the FAA inspectors/DAR do not want to risk their jobs, and there is no specific instruction to them that non TSO'ed instruments are ok in experimentals, so they just refuse. If you can find one FAA inspector/DAR who is willing to sign off e.g., a bluemountainavionics EFIS for IFR use, then please let me know. Sincerely, Noel Simmons


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    Time: 02:07:15 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
    Subject: Oil door catches
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu> Stein/ Andy / Leland - thanks for the oil door /glove box replies. I will probably go the standard route on the oil door, but not the glove box. Steve.


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    Time: 02:28:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Real tear jerker
    From: Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer@pacbell.net>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer@pacbell.net> > Time: 01:32:20 PM PST US > Subject: RV9-List: Real tear jerker > From: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com> > > Just tried to fit my wing spar into the fuselage. Wont fit, the wing spar > is to wide by almost a 16th. the wood spacers were cut to size out of fur > or pine.What happened was my helper thightned the spar bolts down to hard > and crushed the wood. I talked to Vans they suggested drilling out all > the appropriate rivets redrilling for over sized rivets for the proper > widthand re riviting. I would suggest using alum for spacers.BE SURE TO > CHECK YOUR SPAR WIDTH BEFORE RIVITING. > > Joe RV9A the deep Sob. > Joe, Sorry to hear about your spar not fitting. So those of us who are behind you in the building process don't run into the same problem, I'm hoping you or someone else can answer some questions. 1. With all the pre-punched holes in the F-904 assembly, how could the spar not fit? 2. Does Van's recommend making the spacers just a few thousandths wider than the spar so you can easily slide the spar between the two halves of the F-904? 3. Which rivets will you have to drill out to correct the problem? Thanks in advance for your help. Mark Schrimmer Working on F-904 assembly


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    Time: 05:53:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Real tear jerker
    From: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:31:03 -0700 Mark Schrimmer <mschrimmer@pacbell.net> writes: > --> RV9-List message posted by: Mark Schrimmer > <mschrimmer@pacbell.net> > > > Time: 01:32:20 PM PST US > > Subject: RV9-List: Real tear jerker > > From: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com> > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza <planejoel@juno.com> > > > > Just tried to fit my wing spar into the fuselage. Wont fit, the > wing spar > > is to wide by almost a 16th. the wood spacers were cut to size out > of fur > > or pine.What happened was my helper thightned the spar bolts down > to hard > > and crushed the wood. I talked to Vans they suggested drilling out > all > > the appropriate rivets redrilling for over sized rivets for the > proper > > widthand re riviting. I would suggest using alum for spacers.BE > SURE TO > > CHECK YOUR SPAR WIDTH BEFORE RIVITING. > > > > Joe RV9A the deep Sob. > > > > Joe, > > Sorry to hear about your spar not fitting. So those of us who are > behind you > in the building process don't run into the same problem, I'm hoping > you or > someone else can answer some questions. > > 1. With all the pre-punched holes in the F-904 assembly, how could > the spar > not fit? Actually I followed the instructions They call for a one and 7/16" block where the spar fits.Measiuring my spar widt it is actually about 3 thousand wider then 1 and 7/16". Which really is the builders problem I should have checked the width. I buil an RV6A prior to this and did not give it a thought because spar width was not a problem. We'll I drilled out a couple dozen rivetsand spread it to the poper width plus a couple thouants every thing seems to be working out ok. I wouldn't wory to much about this Just dont forget to measure 4 times and cut once. Good luck. PS check your helpers work. Joe RV6A Back on track. s. You'll never see banner ads or any other > = > http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > ========================================================== > = > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:40:53 PM PST US
    From: "Douglas A. Fischer" <dfischer@iserv.net>
    "RV-9 Matronics List" <rv9-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Trim Tab Lower Bend
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Douglas A. Fischer" <dfischer@iserv.net> The plans (and the parts) show a need for bending the forward edge of the lower tab skin for downward travel clearance. Any suggestions for making a nice straight bend line across the width of the tab? Doug Fischer 90706 Emp


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    Time: 06:57:58 PM PST US
    From: "Douglas A. Fischer" <dfischer@iserv.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: [RV-9A] Re: AFS Primer
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Douglas A. Fischer" <dfischer@iserv.net> I am looking for additional info on this string of messages. I am working on the Emp (VS, HS, Rudder done) and have also been using the AFS Primer/ Sealer but all this talk of non-water-based exterior paint not being compatable with the AFS stuff makes me nervous. I am planning solvent-based exterior due to ability to sand, repair, etc., but I have very little (read: none) painting experience. If the exterior primer eats through AFS Sealer, I am wondering if I need to switch to an epoxy primer and trash-can the AFS. My concern is that using laquer thinner or MEK to remove all that exposed Sealer may seep through and ruin the sealer inside the structure. I guess I have a choice ahead - Stick with AFS and avoid spraying Sealer on areas that will eventually get exterior exposure and removing the Sealer from exterior areas I've already done, or switch to epoxy (or whatever primer that is compatable with non-water-based exterior) and stop using AFS altogether. Any suggestions / experiences out there? Thanks in advance for any info! Doug Fischer 90706 Emp




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