---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/12/03: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:52 AM - Cowl Heat Protector (Steve Sampson) 2. 09:52 AM - Carb Heat (Steve Sampson) 3. 10:37 AM - Re: Carb Heat () 4. 02:41 PM - Re: Cowl Heat Protector (Ernest Kells) 5. 03:01 PM - Re: Carb Heat (Ernest Kells) 6. 03:11 PM - Re: Carb Heat () 7. 04:28 PM - Fuel line (Joe Wiza) 8. 06:11 PM - Re: Cowl Heat Protector (Andy Karmy) 9. 09:16 PM - MIL-T-43435B Lacing Cord at a 25% Cost Savings (Garey Wittich) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:53 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV9-List: Cowl Heat Protector --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" I need to order some cowl heat protector from VANS. This does not seem to be included in the FWF kit but I seem to remember was reccomended in RVator some time ago. Anyone got a clue how much I will need? (It sells 30" wide and by the foot.) Steve #90360 Cowl ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:53 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Some time ago there was a discussion about the parts provided in the FWF kit for carb heat. It ended (I think) with the conclusion that VANS do not provide parts to take air off the exhaust but just take air out of the lower cowl. Yet they sell a heat muff! If this is correct, my question is what is the concensus on the efficacy of this? I would have thought the air barely warm enough for this purpose? Steve #90360 Cowl. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:25 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: That is incorrect.Vans offers a carbheat muff that attaches to the front X-over exhaust pipe and supplies (somewhat) heated air to the airfilter box. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Sampson To: rv9-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Some time ago there was a discussion about the parts provided in the FWF kit for carb heat. It ended (I think) with the conclusion that VANS do not provide parts to take air off the exhaust but just take air out of the lower cowl. Yet they sell a heat muff! If this is correct, my question is what is the concensus on the efficacy of this? I would have thought the air barely warm enough for this purpose? Steve #90360 Cowl. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:31 PM PST US From: "Ernest Kells" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Cowl Heat Protector --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" Steve: I ordered 4 feet of the stuff. It was 'enough'. You have to cover those areas near the exhaust completely - I have the crossover pipes and 4 feet was enough. If you want to cover the entire lower cowl (for looks) then order 5 feet. If you want to cover the upper cowl (for whatever reason) then order 3 or 4 feet more. I am happy with 4 feet in total. However, I did prime both upper and lower cowls and painted them with white heat-tolerant paint before applying the cowl heat protector. Happy building. Ernest Kells - RV-9A O235-N2C, Wood Prop 90 plus % Complete - electrical > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" >> I need to order some cowl heat protector from VANS. This does not seem to be included in the FWF kit but I seem to remember was reccomended in RVator some time ago. Anyone got a clue how much I will need? (It sells 30" wide and by the foot.) << ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:08 PM PST US From: "Ernest Kells" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" Steve and Werner. Bear in mind that within two or three inches of the carb heat system is the degree temp. Vans has a lot of planes flying with this system. Being a northerner, I have more caution concerning the cabin heat. I am a Canadian who will be flying X-C in winter. This system looks weak for this. I may buy the end plates from ACS for constructing the second heat box - which includes BOTH exhaust pipes. If necessary, I may add a couple of Delorne seat heat/vibrator units. I may test one in my car. God luck. Ernest Kells - RV-9A O235-N2C, Wood Prop 90 plus % Complete - Wiring > --> RV9-List message posted by: >That is incorrect.Vans offers a carbheat muff that attaches to the front > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > Some time ago there was a discussion about the parts provided in the FWF kit > for carb heat. It ended (I think) with the conclusion that VANS do not > provide parts to take air off the exhaust but just take air out of the lower > cowl. Yet they sell a heat muff! > > If this is correct, my question is what is the concensus on the efficacy of > this? I would have thought the air barely warm enough for this purpose? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:40 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: Dear Ernest, Do these ACS endplates fit the Vetterman cross-over exhaust, considering the *center-to-center* dimensions/-distance of the two pipes? Thanks, Konrad do not archive Being a northerner, I have more caution concerning the cabin heat. I am a Canadian who will be flying X-C in winter. This system looks weak for this. I may buy the end plates from ACS for constructing the second heat box - which includes BOTH exhaust pipes. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:06 PM PST US Subject: RV9-List: Fuel line From: Joe Wiza --> RV9-List message posted by: Joe Wiza Thanks all for your comments on the fuel line. I ran the port side through the bottom hole on the first bracket and down under the outboard bracket with a stand off., Ran out of tubing for the starboard side,ordered some more from Vans (Pretzels in the trash can) Joe RV9A installing tail feathers. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:25 PM PST US From: "Andy Karmy" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Cowl Heat Protector --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" I got 4ft by the 30inch and have some left over. I think 3 foot would do ya. - Andy ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Steve Sampson" >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > >I need to order some cowl heat protector from VANS. This does not seem to be >included in the FWF kit but I seem to remember was reccomended in RVator >some time ago. Anyone got a clue how much I will need? (It sells 30" wide >and by the foot.) > >Steve >#90360 >Cowl > > >_- ====================================== ================================== Contributions other >_- ====================================== ================================== www.matronics.com/trouble-report >_- ====================================== ================================== subscription List.htm rv9-list rv9-list report contribution >_- ====================================== ================================== > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:10 PM PST US From: Garey Wittich Subject: RV9-List: MIL-T-43435B Lacing Cord at a 25% Cost Savings rv8-list@matronics.com, rv9-list@matronics.com --> RV9-List message posted by: Garey Wittich I have access to "Brand New" (in original packaging) MIL-T-43435B Lacing Cord, Type 2 (Polyester / Hi Temp), Finish C (Synthetic Rubber or Elastomer, NOT Waxed), Size 3 (50 lb min strength; 0.085" wide x 0.014" thick). 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