---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/13/03: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:55 AM - Re: Carb Heat (Ernest Kells) 2. 12:16 PM - Re: Carb Heat (Steve Sampson) 3. 12:16 PM - Re: Cowl Heat Protector (Steve Sampson) 4. 01:52 PM - Re: Carb Heat () 5. 05:41 PM - carb heat (Bobdeva@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:50 AM PST US From: "Ernest Kells" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" Konrad: I will not decide on this question until after a couple of winter flights. You may wish to call ACS for an answer by them - or the fabricator (877-477-7823). Let us know if you find the answer (do engine models matter???). The product is shown on page 276 of the current ACS catalogue (bottom right hand corner). It is described well. It definitely has to fit well. If you have not installed your exhaust yet, believe me, there will be absolutely NO "wiggle room" in the exhaust. Good luck. do not archive Ernest Kells - RV-9A O235-N2C, Wood Prop 90 plus % Complete - Wiring > Do these ACS endplates fit the Vetterman cross-over exhaust, considering the *center-to-center* dimensions/-distance of the two pipes? Thanks, Konrad > > do not archive > Being a northerner, I have more caution concerning the cabin heat. I am a > Canadian who will be flying X-C in winter. This system looks weak for this. > I may buy the end plates from ACS for constructing the second heat box - > which includes BOTH exhaust pipes. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:33 PM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Werner, by saying "incorrect" are you saying I should have a carb heat muff in the FWF kit? Steve. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of klwerner@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: That is incorrect.Vans offers a carbheat muff that attaches to the front ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Sampson To: rv9-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Some time ago there was a discussion about the parts provided in the FWF kit for carb heat. It ended (I think) with the conclusion that VANS do not provide parts to take air off the exhaust but just take air out of the lower cowl. Yet they sell a heat muff! If this is correct, my question is what is the concensus on the efficacy of this? I would have thought the air barely warm enough for this purpose? Steve #90360 Cowl. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:33 PM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Cowl Heat Protector --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Ernest/Andy - thanks for the input. Steve. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernest Kells Subject: Re: RV9-List: Cowl Heat Protector --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ernest Kells" Steve: I ordered 4 feet of the stuff. It was 'enough'. PS Ernest, I didnt understand " Bear in mind that within two or three inches of the carb heat system is the degree temp." ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:56 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV9-List: Carb Heat --> RV9-List message posted by: Dear Steve, What I am saying is that they do not "... just take air out of the lower cowl ...", as that would be an insufficient source for carbheat. The various versions of the FWF-Kit in my older 2002-2003 Accessories Catalog do not differentiate between carbureted & fuel injected engines, but only between Size & Prop used (. . . their more up to date website now differentiates between F.I. & Carbs on the FWF-Kits) Do you have the part *EA CARB HEAT MUFF* on your specific inventory list for the FWF Kit ? Why not call Van's to make sure you didn't pay for something that you didn't get. Good Luck, Konrad SNIP . . . but just take air out of the lower cowl. Yet they sell a heat muff! . . . SNIP Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:40 PM PST US From: Bobdeva@aol.com Subject: RV9-List: carb heat --> RV9-List message posted by: Bobdeva@aol.com Someone posted some pictures of a heat muff that stradles both crossover pipes recently. I looked like a good idea to me and easy to make. I made a quick sketch in my brain. Maybe whoever posted the pictures could do so again. I don't think you could get enough heat just pulling free air from inside the cowl.