RV9-List Digest Archive

Mon 11/17/03


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 12:26 AM - Re: Rivets and rivet guns, etc.  (Warren W Hurd)
     2. 09:15 AM - Re: RV9-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/16/03 (Ewinne@aol.com)
     3. 09:51 AM - Re: plans snafu (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     4. 10:26 PM - No subject as you will give it a new one shortly after you flame me (Lyle Peterson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:26:11 AM PST US
    From: Warren W Hurd <warren@ahyup.com>
    Subject: Re: Rivets and rivet guns, etc.
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Warren W Hurd <warren@ahyup.com> Folks use all sorts of stuff, I used a 2X gun, I like it, but found it too small for the spar to web rivets, had to drill em out! The spar is solid and does to let the bucking bar buck! I just posted how to drill out a rivet at http://ahyup.com/ReRivet/ Lurk around and check out different web sites , mine is http://ahyup.com It links to others that link to others. Get some good tools, you want them to be a joy to use. Warren > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap@access4less.net> > > I am in the process of setting up to start on an RV6. It is a very slow > build kit. I would appreciate some advice on rivet tools. > > What rivet gun seems to be the best all around as far as versatility and > longevity? Which seems to have the best trigger? Is a 1X enough? Is > 3X too much? > > What rivet sets are the most useful and which are useful in some limited > uses? Long sets, offset sets, C frame sets, swivel sets, cushioned > sets. Any other accessory that any of you found useful or would have > liked to have to make setting a particular rivet easier? > > What size yokes are useful or needed in some locations on a pneumatic > rivet squeezer or on a hand rivet squeezer? > > I apologize if you get several copies of this message. I am subscribed > to several RV lists. > > Thank all of you for the information and encouragement. > > Lyle Peterson


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    Time: 09:15:52 AM PST US
    From: Ewinne@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV9-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 11/16/03
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Ewinne@aol.com Lyle- You'll get LOTS of conflicting advice on these questions, but I suggest you start out with one of the standard "RV tool kits" from Avery or Cleaveland. They are the two best tool companies on the market and they understand RV's. Use the bars, sets, etc that come with the kit. Buy an organizer for your riveting and dimpling dies. You WILL buy more later (more dies, bucking bars, drills, etc), depending on how your kit progresses, etc. Most builders keep buying tools for a year or more after they start. This is not a bad thing, as different builders have differet styles and thus want different tools. Anything you buy from Avery or Cleaveland will be of excellent quality. I went to Sun-n-Fun last year and came home with a $275 pneumatic squeezer from the USATCO booth. Saved a bit from the usual $400 price. But Avery's and Cleaveland's hand squeezers do an excellent job, too. If you're building one of the older kits and will assemble the spar yourself, then a 3X gun is mandatory. If you get a pre-built spar, then a 2X will fit the bill. The rest is pure enjoyment. Ed Winne Jonestown PA


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    Time: 09:51:32 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: plans snafu
    --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net check dwg 44 > --> RV9-List message posted by: smbluthing@volexpress.com > > dwg 28 around area d4 "see f-824B cover plate detail dwg 26"..........i > go to dwg 26 and see no cover plate detail, my dwg26 is dated > 8/14/00......does anyone know where cover plate detail is on the plans > or could someone email the detail? thanking you in advance for your > assistance. > > > will i every finish or is the a test of patience! > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:26:26 PM PST US
    From: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap@access4less.net>
    <rv7-list@matronics.com>, <rv8-list@matronics.com>, <rv9-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: No subject as you will give it a new one shortly after you flame
    me SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS --> RV9-List message posted by: "Lyle Peterson" <lyleap@access4less.net> It is so disheartening to learn that aviators are so narrow minded and selfish. If you people had used one tenth of the energy you expended on blasting my question to providing useful information, you could have written a book. As is it you only demonstrated that you 1. Don't know the answers, 2. Think that your knowledge is so unique that it can't be shared, 3. You have an immense amount of time to waste, 4. You have absolutely no respect for other people, whether they be builders or not. Someone suggested that the question was 'stupid.' The only stupid question is one that you can't answer! I checked the archives for the "gazillion" answers to be found there. I found four and not all of them pertained directly to my question. None of them covered all the questions I had posed. A few responded off list. They probably did not want to be caught by the lords of the list giving information to a new builder. I do thank those few for the information they so generously shared. They are very unlike the rest of the listers. Some two thousand people on these lists and only a very few are willing to answer. Rather, several find the time to waste flaming the questioner. The thread continues under the guise of a 'Food Fight.' How charming! So many messages use an existing subject because so few of you have figured out how to start a new thread on the list. Shame, shame. Look at the bottom of the message for the information you need. You don't even have to ask a question of the list, and thus get flamed for a stupid question. I did envision one day flying it to Oshkosh. If I do, which is doubtful, I will park it in the Vintage area. There are some folks there that will talk decently to you about airplanes and lots of other things. If you get too many copies of this email, use the delete key. Thanks for nothing, Lyle Peterson




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