RV9-List Digest Archive

Tue 12/02/03


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:05 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
     2. 09:37 AM - AFS Waterbourne painting (Andy Karmy)
     3. 07:00 PM - elevator spar riveting (Paul Eastham)
     4. 08:12 PM - Re: elevator spar riveting (BGCrook@aol.com)
     5. 09:09 PM - Re: elevator spar riveting (Albert Gardner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:05:14 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> RV9-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Lister, Please read over the RV9-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete RV9-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV9-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** RV9-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV9-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the RV9-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. RV9-List Policy Statement The purpose of the RV9-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.]


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    Time: 09:37:30 AM PST US
    From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
    "RV-9A @ Yahoo" <RV-9A@yahoogroups.com>
    Subject: AFS Waterbourne painting
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com> For those of you looking for a safer, more environmental friendly, good quality paint system... I have posted a detailed write up with pictures of the process of painting my fiberglass parts using AFS 2 part Polyurathane paint. I switched to AFS products a few years ago since I build in my attached garage and could not tollerate the solvent smell in the house and for my personal health. Here's the link: http://www.karmy.com/rv9a/pictures/Paint/AFS-Painting/ afs-paint.htm - Andy Karmy RV9A, Seattle WA


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    Time: 07:00:52 PM PST US
    From: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
    Subject: elevator spar riveting
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> Hi 9 builders, I took a stab at riveting the top side of the elevator today but didn't have very good luck. When I tried conventional riveting with the top side held up in the air with duct tape, I had trouble keeping both the rivet set and bucking bar on target without wandering off. I also tried back-riveting but couldn't get the skin pressed down onto the plate enough -- the bend in the skin kept the rivets from seating in the dimples properly no matter how hard I pressed down. Any hints on either approach? Paul


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    Time: 08:12:34 PM PST US
    From: BGCrook@aol.com
    Subject: Re: elevator spar riveting
    --> RV9-List message posted by: BGCrook@aol.com I'm about ready to rivet my spar to the elevator top skin as well. I'm very interested to hear any tips or advise as well. Thanks, Bryon Crook RV-9A (working on right elevator)


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    Time: 09:09:00 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <spudnut@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: elevator spar riveting
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <spudnut@worldnet.att.net> Are you using that back riveting set that has the spring loaded collar? If the spring tension isn't quite enough, you can increase it with your fingers while riveting. That should press the skin down tightly. Also, I taped the rivets in with a strip of Scotch packaging tape. I'm assuming that we are talking about the stiffener to skin rivets. Albert Gardner RV-9A 872RV Yuma, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> > Hi 9 builders, > I took a stab at riveting the top side of the elevator today but > didn't have very good luck. When I tried conventional riveting with > the top side held up in the air with duct tape, I had trouble keeping > both the rivet set and bucking bar on target without wandering off. I > also tried back-riveting but couldn't get the skin pressed down onto > the plate enough -- the bend in the skin kept the rivets from seating > in the dimples properly no matter how hard I pressed down. > Any hints on either approach? > Paul




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