RV9-List Digest Archive

Tue 01/27/04


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 10:49 AM - Canopy Construction - Gluing it in place? (Dave Nicholson)
     2. 03:47 PM - wing j-stringer (Paul Eastham)
     3. 04:14 PM - Re: wing j-stringer (Glenn Brasch)
     4. 08:18 PM - Whither the shop head ... (Gerry Filby)
     5. 08:21 PM - Whither the shop head ... (Gerry Filby)
     6. 08:24 PM - Whither the shop head ... (Gerry Filby)
     7. 08:28 PM - Whither the shop head ... (Gerry Filby)
     8. 08:44 PM - installing wing LE ribs (Paul Eastham)
     9. 08:48 PM - Re: Whither the shop head ... (Jerry Calvert)
    10. 08:52 PM - Re: Whither the shop head ... (Richard E. Tasker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:49:44 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Nicholson" <n347sd@insightbb.com>
    Subject: Canopy Construction - Gluing it in place?
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dave Nicholson" <n347sd@insightbb.com> After reading the "Nuts & Bolts - Craft & Technique: Fitting Plexiglas Canopies" in the January 2004 issue of EAA Sport Aviation, I contacted the Sika Corporation for their recommendations. Here is what they said: Dave, I read the article about the RV canopy installation with Sikaflex. Let me start by noting that we have no experience with aircraft applications and any of the challenges found in such an application. That being said, the following link is a set of installation instructions for using Sikaflex 295UV for marine windows. The steps would be the same for your application. http://www.sikaindustry.com/ind/ipd-marine/ipd-marine-window.htm To purchase this product, contact Merritt Supply at 954-946-5350. Regards, Steve Padgett Sika Corp. Rather than use Blind Rivets to hold the Plexiglas to the Canopy Frame & Roll Bar, I decided to drill & tap all of these holes for #6 SS Flathead Bolts, so I intend to use the Sikaflex-295 UV in conjunction with the screws already installed. After the Sikafles-295 UV has cured, I will "back-off" the screws slightly to relieve any pressure they were applying to the Plexiglas. I will also use the same material as a "sealer" between all of the Canopy Skirts (side & aft) and the Plexiglas Canopy to prevent rain water from running into the cockpit. Dave 90347 N347SD (Res)


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    Time: 03:47:00 PM PST US
    From: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
    Subject: wing j-stringer
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> Anybody else have trouble getting the j-stringer fastener line to line up with the holes in the skin? The line, drawn 3/8" from the aft end as instructed, ends up pretty far forward on the stringer, near the bend, and the ribs don't allow me to push the stringer aft enough to line up with the holes. It's not off by that much when the stringer is pushed firmly against the aft edge of the rib gap, but I can't imagine that's how it's meant to fit. I ought to just draw a line on the center of the face of the stringer and be done with it... Paul http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv


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    Time: 04:14:04 PM PST US
    From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: wing j-stringer
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net> Go ahead, draw that center line, works great. Glenn in Arizona -9A wings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> Subject: RV9-List: wing j-stringer > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> > > Anybody else have trouble getting the j-stringer fastener line to > line up with the holes in the skin? The line, drawn 3/8" from the aft > end as instructed, ends up pretty far forward on the stringer, near > the bend, and the ribs don't allow me to push the stringer aft enough > to line up with the holes. It's not off by that much when the stringer > is pushed firmly against the aft edge of the rib gap, but I can't imagine > that's how it's meant to fit. > > I ought to just draw a line on the center of the face of the stringer > and be done with it... > > Paul > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv > >


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    Time: 08:18:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Whither the shop head ...
    From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com> Folks, Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be. If my reading of the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up. Any big deciding factor here ? Regards, g ========================================================== Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com Home (415) 239 4846 Cell (415) 203 9177


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    Time: 08:21:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Whither the shop head ...
    From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com> Folks, Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be. If my reading of the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up. Any big deciding factor here ? Regards, g ========================================================== Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com Home (415) 239 4846 Cell (415) 203 9177


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    Time: 08:24:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Whither the shop head ...
    From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com> Folks, Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be. If my reading of the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up. Any big deciding factor here ? Regards, g ========================================================== Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com Home (415) 239 4846 Cell (415) 203 9177


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    Time: 08:28:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Whither the shop head ...
    From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com> Folks, Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be. If my reading of the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up. Any big deciding factor here ? Regards, g ========================================================== Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com Home (415) 239 4846 Cell (415) 203 9177


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    Time: 08:44:19 PM PST US
    From: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
    Subject: installing wing LE ribs
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> So what's the secret? My hands are black and blue from trying to press those guys into the skin. I've been good about fluting and flanging... I got one in with a lot of struggle but the rest require at least 100 pounds of pressure to get the bottom flange anywhere close after clecoing the top flange. I've put some boelube on the flanges too. Can't imagine how the tanks are going to be... Paul http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv


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    Time: 08:48:53 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Whither the shop head ...
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net> I believe as a general rule, the machined head goes on the side with thinner aluminum, but sometimes circumstances make that difficult. So, shop head ,as general rule, goes on thicker material. Jerry Calvert Edmond Ok RV6 N296JC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com> Subject: RV9-List: Whither the shop head ... > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com> > > > Folks, > > Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the > shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be. If my reading of > the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward > side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some > people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up. > > Any big deciding factor here ? > > Regards, > > g > > > ========================================================== > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > Home (415) 239 4846 > Cell (415) 203 9177 > >


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    Time: 08:52:26 PM PST US
    From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: Whither the shop head ...
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net> Two possible deciding factors that I have found: 1. Put the shop head on the side that is not normally visible if you have a choice (if you are going for looks). 2. Put the shop head on the side with the thickest material so it doesn't tend to deform the metal as you form the head (if you are going for function). 3. Put it where it works (sometimes you really don't have a choice). My $0.02. Dick Tasker, RV9A 90573 Finishing the fuselage (when it is warm enough...) Gerry Filby wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com> > > >Folks, > >Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the >shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be. If my reading of >the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward >side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some >people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up. > >Any big deciding factor here ? > >Regards, > >g > > >========================================================== >Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > Home (415) 239 4846 > Cell (415) 203 9177 > > > >




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