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     1. 10:49 AM - Canopy Construction - Gluing it in place? (Dave Nicholson)
     2. 03:47 PM - wing j-stringer (Paul Eastham)
     3. 04:14 PM - Re: wing j-stringer (Glenn Brasch)
     4. 08:18 PM - Whither the shop head ... (Gerry Filby)
     5. 08:21 PM - Whither the shop head ... (Gerry Filby)
     6. 08:24 PM - Whither the shop head ... (Gerry Filby)
     7. 08:28 PM - Whither the shop head ... (Gerry Filby)
     8. 08:44 PM - installing wing LE ribs (Paul Eastham)
     9. 08:48 PM - Re: Whither the shop head ... (Jerry Calvert)
    10. 08:52 PM - Re: Whither the shop head ... (Richard E. Tasker)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Canopy Construction - Gluing it in place? | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dave Nicholson" <n347sd@insightbb.com>
      
      After reading the "Nuts & Bolts - Craft & Technique: Fitting Plexiglas Canopies"
      in the January 2004 issue of EAA Sport Aviation, I contacted the Sika Corporation
      for their recommendations.
      
      Here is what they said:
      
      
      Dave,
      
      I read the article about the RV canopy installation with Sikaflex. Let me
      start by noting that we have no experience with aircraft applications and
      any of the challenges found in such an application. That being said, the 
      following link is a set of installation instructions for using Sikaflex
      295UV for marine windows. The steps would be the same for your
      application.
      
      
      http://www.sikaindustry.com/ind/ipd-marine/ipd-marine-window.htm
      
      To purchase this product, contact Merritt Supply at 954-946-5350.
      
      Regards,
      
      Steve Padgett
      Sika Corp.
      
      
      Rather than use Blind Rivets to hold the Plexiglas to the Canopy Frame & Roll Bar,
      I decided to drill & tap all of these holes for #6 SS Flathead Bolts, so I
      intend to use the Sikaflex-295 UV in conjunction with the screws already installed.
      
      After the Sikafles-295 UV has cured, I will "back-off" the screws slightly to relieve
      any pressure they were applying to the Plexiglas.
      
      I will also use the same material as a "sealer" between all of the Canopy Skirts
      (side & aft) and the Plexiglas Canopy to prevent rain water from running into
      the cockpit.
      
      Dave
      
      90347
      
      N347SD (Res)
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
      
       Anybody else have trouble getting the j-stringer fastener line to
      line up with the holes in the skin?  The line, drawn 3/8" from the aft
      end as instructed, ends up pretty far forward on the stringer, near
      the bend, and the ribs don't allow me to push the stringer aft enough
      to line up with the holes.  It's not off by that much when the stringer
      is pushed firmly against the aft edge of the rib gap, but I can't imagine
      that's how it's meant to fit.
      
       I ought to just draw a line on the center of the face of the stringer
      and be done with it...
      
      Paul
      http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: wing j-stringer | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
      
      Go ahead, draw that center line, works great.  
      Glenn in Arizona -9A wings
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com>
      Subject: RV9-List: wing j-stringer
      
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
      > 
      >  Anybody else have trouble getting the j-stringer fastener line to
      > line up with the holes in the skin?  The line, drawn 3/8" from the aft
      > end as instructed, ends up pretty far forward on the stringer, near
      > the bend, and the ribs don't allow me to push the stringer aft enough
      > to line up with the holes.  It's not off by that much when the stringer
      > is pushed firmly against the aft edge of the rib gap, but I can't imagine
      > that's how it's meant to fit.
      > 
      >  I ought to just draw a line on the center of the face of the stringer
      > and be done with it...
      > 
      > Paul
      > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv
      > 
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Whither the shop head ... | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
      
      
      Folks,
      
      Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the 
      shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be.  If my reading of 
      the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward 
      side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some 
      people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up.
      
      Any big deciding factor here ?
      
      Regards,
      
      g
      
      
      ========================================================== 
      Gerry Filby                                  gerf@gerf.com 
                          Home (415) 239 4846
                          Cell (415) 203 9177
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Whither the shop head ... | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
      
      
      Folks,
      
      Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the 
      shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be.  If my reading of 
      the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward 
      side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some 
      people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up.
      
      Any big deciding factor here ?
      
      Regards,
      
      g
      
      
      ========================================================== 
      Gerry Filby                                  gerf@gerf.com 
                          Home (415) 239 4846
                          Cell (415) 203 9177
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Whither the shop head ... | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
      
      
      Folks,
      
      Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the 
      shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be.  If my reading of 
      the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward 
      side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some 
      people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up.
      
      Any big deciding factor here ?
      
      Regards,
      
      g
      
      
      ========================================================== 
      Gerry Filby                                  gerf@gerf.com 
                          Home (415) 239 4846
                          Cell (415) 203 9177
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Whither the shop head ... | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
      
      
      Folks,
      
      Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the 
      shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be.  If my reading of 
      the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward 
      side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some 
      people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up.
      
      Any big deciding factor here ?
      
      Regards,
      
      g
      
      
      ========================================================== 
      Gerry Filby                                  gerf@gerf.com 
                          Home (415) 239 4846
                          Cell (415) 203 9177
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | installing wing LE ribs | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
      
       So what's the secret?  My hands are black and blue from trying to
      press those guys into the skin.  I've been good about fluting and
      flanging...  I got one in with a lot of struggle but the rest require
      at least 100 pounds of pressure to get the bottom flange anywhere
      close after clecoing the top flange.  I've put some boelube on the
      flanges too.
       Can't imagine how the tanks are going to be...
      
      Paul
      http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Whither the shop head ... | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
      
      I believe as a general rule, the machined head goes on the side with thinner
      aluminum, but sometimes circumstances make that difficult.  So, shop head
      ,as general rule, goes on thicker material.
      
      Jerry Calvert
      Edmond Ok
      RV6
      N296JC
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com>
      Subject: RV9-List: Whither the shop head ...
      
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
      >
      >
      > Folks,
      >
      > Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the
      > shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be.  If my reading of
      > the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward
      > side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some
      > people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up.
      >
      > Any big deciding factor here ?
      >
      > Regards,
      >
      > g
      >
      >
      > ==========================================================
      > Gerry Filby                                  gerf@gerf.com
      >                     Home (415) 239 4846
      >                     Cell (415) 203 9177
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Whither the shop head ... | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
      
      Two possible deciding factors that I have found:
      1. Put the shop head on the side that is not normally visible if you 
      have a choice (if you are going for looks).
      2. Put the shop head on the side with the thickest material so it 
      doesn't tend to deform the metal as you form the head (if you are going 
      for function).
      3. Put it where it works (sometimes you really don't have a choice).
      
      My $0.02.
      
      Dick Tasker, RV9A 90573
      Finishing the fuselage (when it is warm enough...)
      
      Gerry Filby wrote:
      
      >--> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
      >
      >
      >Folks,
      >
      >Trying to figure out which side of the HS-903 rear spar the 
      >shop head of the AN470AD4 rivets should be.  If my reading of 
      >the drawings is right, the shop head should be on the forward 
      >side, but I've been scouring around the various blogs and some 
      >people take the opposite tack and some people mix it up.
      >
      >Any big deciding factor here ?
      >
      >Regards,
      >
      >g
      >
      >
      >========================================================== 
      >Gerry Filby                                  gerf@gerf.com 
      >                    Home (415) 239 4846
      >                    Cell (415) 203 9177
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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