RV9-List Digest Archive

Sun 02/01/04


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:12 AM - tank skin gaps (Paul Eastham)
     2. 09:24 AM - wing twist (Paul Eastham)
     3. 10:53 AM - Re: RV-9A Kit For Sale (Roger Evenson)
     4. 11:14 AM - Re: RV-9A Kit For Sale (Glenn Brasch)
     5. 11:34 AM - Re: RV-9A Kit For Sale (Fabian Lefler)
     6. 03:12 PM - Re: wing twist (Dean)
     7. 03:55 PM - Re: wing twist (Dale Larsen)
     8. 08:07 PM - Re: wing twist (Paul Eastham)
     9. 08:15 PM - [ Chalkie Stobbart+ ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
    10. 08:21 PM - Re: wing twist (Mike Hoover)
    11. 08:27 PM - [ Chalkie Stobbart ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
    12. 09:30 PM - Re: wing twist (Paul Eastham)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:12:22 AM PST US
    From: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
    Subject: tank skin gaps
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> Hi All, I've got my first tank clecoed together and on the wing, but after clecoing through the attach angles and skin-spar platenuts, I still have about 1/32" gap between the tank skin and top/bottom main skins. My LE is butting up perfectly by comparison. Should I try to tighten this up before drilling, or not? Seems like the platenut-cleco setup is not pulling the skins as tight as they could be. And then some people in the archives say a gap is good...? And now for a gotcha I didn't see in the archives anywhere... I used to have a 1/8" gap, but it was due to the inside of a few skin-baffle clecoes just barely impacting the top spar reinforcing bar. I'm pretty slow, it took me about an hour to realize what was going on! Tanks, :) Paul http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv


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    Time: 09:24:51 AM PST US
    From: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
    Subject: wing twist
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> Oh, another random question: I checked my wing for twist as instructed and found that it had a little more than allowed, about 1/4". Unfortunately the manual doesn't say what to do about it...just clamp it in a better position on the rear spar supports and move on? Paul http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv


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    Time: 10:53:54 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-9A Kit For Sale
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net> Are you keeping Affordable Panels going? Roger. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net> <RV-9A@yahoogroups.com>; <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RV9-List: RV-9A Kit For Sale > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net> > > It is with a heavy heart I post this message to the various lists. Personal > issues (not financial) are forcing me to sell my beloved RV-9A kit. I have > labored over this kit for the past 3 years, and consider it to be a very > well built and good looking airplane. I would love to sell it to someone in > the area who can appreciate some occasional, and FREE, help from me to > complete the kit. > > THIS AIRPLANE COULD BE FLYING IN LESS THAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. > > You can see some photos and detailed description here: > > http://www.affordablepanels.com/rv9aforsale.htm > > The Kit Includes: > > -Eggenfellner Firewall Forward Package - Normally Aspirated (Installed). > -MT 3 Blade Propeller (Still in Crate). > -Altrak Altitude Hold (Installed). > -Trio Avionics Autopilot (Installed). > -Aeroflash Nav and Strobe Lighting. > -Interior by Cleveland Tools with plenty of extra fabric. > -Fuselage is on its gear and Canopy Work is finished with all skirts > installed. > -Modular Panel (Installed), but no instrument holes have been cut out. > -Much more. > > Please NO E-MAILS. If you are interested, please call me at 561-641-9737 > > Thank You > > Fabian > >


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    Time: 11:14:45 AM PST US
    From: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-9A Kit For Sale
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net> It was going to be a top choice for me, just wanted to double check and see if you still liked it, and look at yours. Back to skin dimpling! (lots of holes you QB guy!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net> Subject: Re: RV9-List: RV-9A Kit For Sale > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net> > > Are you keeping Affordable Panels going? > Roger. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>; <rv9-list@matronics.com>; > <RV-9A@yahoogroups.com>; <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RV9-List: RV-9A Kit For Sale > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net> > > > > It is with a heavy heart I post this message to the various lists. > Personal > > issues (not financial) are forcing me to sell my beloved RV-9A kit. I > have > > labored over this kit for the past 3 years, and consider it to be a very > > well built and good looking airplane. I would love to sell it to someone > in > > the area who can appreciate some occasional, and FREE, help from me to > > complete the kit. > > > > THIS AIRPLANE COULD BE FLYING IN LESS THAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. > > > > You can see some photos and detailed description here: > > > > http://www.affordablepanels.com/rv9aforsale.htm > > > > The Kit Includes: > > > > -Eggenfellner Firewall Forward Package - Normally Aspirated (Installed). > > -MT 3 Blade Propeller (Still in Crate). > > -Altrak Altitude Hold (Installed). > > -Trio Avionics Autopilot (Installed). > > -Aeroflash Nav and Strobe Lighting. > > -Interior by Cleveland Tools with plenty of extra fabric. > > -Fuselage is on its gear and Canopy Work is finished with all skirts > > installed. > > -Modular Panel (Installed), but no instrument holes have been cut out. > > -Much more. > > > > Please NO E-MAILS. If you are interested, please call me at 561-641-9737 > > > > Thank You > > > > Fabian > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:34:51 AM PST US
    From: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-9A Kit For Sale
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net> Yes. As far as assets, Affordable Panels is small so there is no problem there. Fabian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net> Subject: Re: RV9-List: RV-9A Kit For Sale > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net> > > Are you keeping Affordable Panels going? > Roger. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>; <rv9-list@matronics.com>; > <RV-9A@yahoogroups.com>; <RV7and7A@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RV9-List: RV-9A Kit For Sale > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net> > > > > It is with a heavy heart I post this message to the various lists. > Personal > > issues (not financial) are forcing me to sell my beloved RV-9A kit. I > have > > labored over this kit for the past 3 years, and consider it to be a very > > well built and good looking airplane. I would love to sell it to someone > in > > the area who can appreciate some occasional, and FREE, help from me to > > complete the kit. > > > > THIS AIRPLANE COULD BE FLYING IN LESS THAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. > > > > You can see some photos and detailed description here: > > > > http://www.affordablepanels.com/rv9aforsale.htm > > > > The Kit Includes: > > > > -Eggenfellner Firewall Forward Package - Normally Aspirated (Installed). > > -MT 3 Blade Propeller (Still in Crate). > > -Altrak Altitude Hold (Installed). > > -Trio Avionics Autopilot (Installed). > > -Aeroflash Nav and Strobe Lighting. > > -Interior by Cleveland Tools with plenty of extra fabric. > > -Fuselage is on its gear and Canopy Work is finished with all skirts > > installed. > > -Modular Panel (Installed), but no instrument holes have been cut out. > > -Much more. > > > > Please NO E-MAILS. If you are interested, please call me at 561-641-9737 > > > > Thank You > > > > Fabian > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:12:13 PM PST US
    From: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
    Subject: Re: wing twist
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net> Paul I concur with your approach to clamp your rear spar supports in a better position to remove as much wing twist as possible. I was able to get my twist down to about 1/2 of the 3/32 allowable. It is difficult to measure any closer than that. Dean Van Winkle RV-9A Fuselage/Finish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> Subject: RV9-List: wing twist > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> > > Oh, another random question: I checked my wing for twist as instructed > and found that it had a little more than allowed, about 1/4". > Unfortunately the manual doesn't say what to do about it...just clamp > it in a better position on the rear spar supports and move on? > > Paul > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv > >


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    Time: 03:55:53 PM PST US
    From: "Dale Larsen" <slickrock@been-there.com>
    Subject: Re: wing twist
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dale Larsen" <slickrock@been-there.com> Are your skins clecoed on? Once the skins go on, there should be very little twist (washout) in the wing. Mine measured .060. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> Subject: RV9-List: wing twist > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> > > Oh, another random question: I checked my wing for twist as instructed > and found that it had a little more than allowed, about 1/4". > Unfortunately the manual doesn't say what to do about it...just clamp > it in a better position on the rear spar supports and move on? > > Paul > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv > >


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    Time: 08:07:18 PM PST US
    From: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
    Subject: Re: wing twist
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> Well, the point in the directions where it told me to measure it had the top skins, LE, and tank on, but bottom skins off. There is quite a lot of flex still possible in the wing in that configuration. Paul On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 04:52:42PM -0700, Dale Larsen wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dale Larsen" <slickrock@been-there.com> > > Are your skins clecoed on? Once the skins go on, there should be very > little twist (washout) in the wing. Mine measured .060. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV9-List: wing twist > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> > > > > Oh, another random question: I checked my wing for twist as instructed > > and found that it had a little more than allowed, about 1/4". > > Unfortunately the manual doesn't say what to do about it...just clamp > > it in a better position on the rear spar supports and move on? > > > > Paul > > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:15:32 PM PST US
    Subject: [ Chalkie Stobbart+ ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Chalkie Stobbart+ <cajole76@ispwest.com> Subject: Canopy and winshield attachment with Sika adhesive. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/cajole76@ispwest.com.02.01.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 08:21:49 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Hoover" <mikehoover@sc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: wing twist
    --> RV9-List message posted by: "Mike Hoover" <mikehoover@sc.rr.com> Paul, Mine was off a bit more than I liked (1/4") so I put a .025 thick piece of aluminum about 1" square under the inboard spar under the top spar reinforcing bar where the spar contacts my support angle iron to make it straighten up. Raising one flange of the spar only a little bit makes a big difference two feet down to the rear spar This worked just fine. I'm within 3/64" now. Hope this helps. Mike SC 90709 wings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> Subject: Re: RV9-List: wing twist > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> > > Well, the point in the directions where it told me to measure it had > the top skins, LE, and tank on, but bottom skins off. There is quite a lot > of flex still possible in the wing in that configuration. > > Paul > > On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 04:52:42PM -0700, Dale Larsen wrote: > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dale Larsen" <slickrock@been-there.com> > > > > Are your skins clecoed on? Once the skins go on, there should be very > > little twist (washout) in the wing. Mine measured .060. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> > > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: RV9-List: wing twist > > > > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> > > > > > > Oh, another random question: I checked my wing for twist as instructed > > > and found that it had a little more than allowed, about 1/4". > > > Unfortunately the manual doesn't say what to do about it...just clamp > > > it in a better position on the rear spar supports and move on? > > > > > > Paul > > > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:27:44 PM PST US
    Subject: [ Chalkie Stobbart ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com> A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Chalkie Stobbart <chalkboy@mweb.co.za> Subject: RV-List article applicable to all RV's and all Plexiglas canopies. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/chalkboy@mweb.co.za.02.01.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com


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    Time: 09:30:47 PM PST US
    From: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
    Subject: Re: wing twist
    --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> Hi Mike, That's probably a better idea, especially since I just realized that my wing stand arms may not be perfectly parallel with each other any more. My stand has gotten bumped out of it's original position, and the wood has been drying and warping for a couple of months now... Thanks Paul On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 11:16:43PM -0500, Mike Hoover wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Mike Hoover" <mikehoover@sc.rr.com> > > Paul, > > Mine was off a bit more than I liked (1/4") so I put a .025 thick piece of > aluminum about 1" square under the inboard spar under the top spar > reinforcing bar where the spar contacts my support angle iron to make it > straighten up. Raising one flange of the spar only a little bit makes a big > difference two feet down to the rear spar This worked just fine. I'm within > 3/64" now. Hope this helps. > > Mike > SC > 90709 wings > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV9-List: wing twist > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> > > > > Well, the point in the directions where it told me to measure it had > > the top skins, LE, and tank on, but bottom skins off. There is quite a > lot > > of flex still possible in the wing in that configuration. > > > > Paul > > > > On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 04:52:42PM -0700, Dale Larsen wrote: > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dale Larsen" <slickrock@been-there.com> > > > > > > Are your skins clecoed on? Once the skins go on, there should be very > > > little twist (washout) in the wing. Mine measured .060. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com> > > > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: RV9-List: wing twist > > > > > > > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com> > > > > > > > > Oh, another random question: I checked my wing for twist as instructed > > > > and found that it had a little more than allowed, about 1/4". > > > > Unfortunately the manual doesn't say what to do about it...just clamp > > > > it in a better position on the rear spar supports and move on? > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >




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