---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/06/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:46 AM - #6 & #8 dimple dies (Richard Scott) 2. 09:27 AM - Re: #6 & #8 dimple dies (Dave Nicholson) 3. 09:28 AM - Re: #6 & #8 dimple dies (Richard Tasker) 4. 10:23 AM - Re: #6 & #8 dimple dies (Al Cherry) 5. 11:29 AM - Re: #6 & #8 dimple dies (Albert Gardner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:15 AM PST US From: Richard Scott Subject: RV9-List: #6 & #8 dimple dies --> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Scott Found out I need #6 dimple dies for screw holes on the elevator. How often are these needed? Is it worth it to buy them or should I plan on borrowing them for a once in a blue moon need? Or is there another way? Called Van's & they suggested I just use a #6 screw into a countersunk hole in a chunk of steel. Rather than use a chunk of steel, I used washers & screwed into a nut. Bent the aluminum badly. Glad I tried it on a piece of scrap. Richard Scott Emp. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:20 AM PST US From: "Dave Nicholson" Subject: Re: RV9-List: #6 & #8 dimple dies --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dave Nicholson" I used the #6 dies quite a bit since I screwed on the wing tips as well as the canopy (rather than use blind rivets). Therre were also several other places I used a #6 Screw. The #8 die was not lused as much. Dave Nicholson 90347 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Scott" Subject: RV9-List: #6 & #8 dimple dies > --> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Scott > > Found out I need #6 dimple dies for screw holes on the elevator. How > often are these needed? Is it worth it to buy them or should I plan on > borrowing them for a once in a blue moon need? Or is there another way? > > Called Van's & they suggested I just use a #6 screw into a countersunk hole > in a chunk of steel. Rather than use a chunk of steel, I used washers & > screwed into a nut. Bent the aluminum badly. Glad I tried it on a piece > of scrap. > > Richard Scott > Emp. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:54 AM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV9-List: #6 & #8 dimple dies --> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Tasker It's easier if you go ahead and buy the dies. But if you would rather not spend the money, you can take a chunk (reasonable heft) of steel and drill and countersink it a little deeper than the head of the screw. Put the screw through the hole and into the steel piece in back of the screw. Then take your rivet gun and give it a few whacks. Or alternately take a hammer or your c-frame and whack it. I do have a #6 set, but I do not have a #10 set and there are even fewer #10s than #6s. This is what I did for the #10s and it worked just fine. You can also do the same with rivets if you end up with a hole that needs to be dimpled with no way to do it with any normal tool - like if you need a dimpled hole in the fuselage after everything is riveted together. Dick Tasker, 90573 Richard Scott wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Scott > >Found out I need #6 dimple dies for screw holes on the elevator. How >often are these needed? Is it worth it to buy them or should I plan on >borrowing them for a once in a blue moon need? Or is there another way? > >Called Van's & they suggested I just use a #6 screw into a countersunk hole >in a chunk of steel. Rather than use a chunk of steel, I used washers & >screwed into a nut. Bent the aluminum badly. Glad I tried it on a piece >of scrap. > >Richard Scott >Emp. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:37 AM PST US From: "Al Cherry" Subject: RE: RV9-List: #6 & #8 dimple dies --> RV9-List message posted by: "Al Cherry" Richard, I found both 6 and 8's were used often. In the Wing they are needed for the tanks , inspection covers and wingtips(if you make them removable). They are also used in the fuselage. A good investment. Al Cherry 90269 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Scott Subject: RV9-List: #6 & #8 dimple dies --> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Scott Found out I need #6 dimple dies for screw holes on the elevator. How often are these needed? Is it worth it to buy them or should I plan on borrowing them for a once in a blue moon need? Or is there another way? Called Van's & they suggested I just use a #6 screw into a countersunk hole in a chunk of steel. Rather than use a chunk of steel, I used washers & screwed into a nut. Bent the aluminum badly. Glad I tried it on a piece of scrap. Richard Scott Emp. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:22 AM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: Re: RV9-List: #6 & #8 dimple dies --> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" After messing around with 2 different diameters of screws, I threw away all the #6 nutplates and used only #8 (which have the same hole pattern for the rivets). Albert Gardner RV-9A 872RV Yuma, AZ