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1. 06:39 AM - FW: dimpling (Bill Repucci)
2. 06:57 AM - Re: dimpling (Bill Repucci)
3. 04:04 PM - Fw: priming wing ribs (MICK MULLER)
4. 04:20 PM - Re: Fw: priming wing ribs (Stein Bruch)
5. 06:20 PM - Re: Fw: priming wing ribs (Bill Repucci)
6. 07:39 PM - Re: Fw: priming wing ribs (Randy)
7. 08:15 PM - Re: Fw: priming wing ribs (MICK MULLER)
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
I thought I would forward this on for the others to follow. The picture
should help everyone understand how to get good dimples and as Tad said,
us a good hammer and hit each hole only once and hit it hard.
Bill R.
RV-9
SN: 90737
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Repucci [mailto:bill@repucci.com]
Subject: RE: dimpling
Randy,
Not a problem, the trick is to build some small tables that will rest on
either side of the C frame so the surface is level or just a little
above the height of the dimple die. If you don't do this you will put
smiley faces around each dimple because the skin isn't level. Then
lower the dimple by hand and hold it down in each hole before hitting it
with the hammer. If you don't do this, there is a good chance you will
miss the hole and punch a new one in the wrong place. (Don't ask how I
know this!)
See the picture on my web site:
http://www.repucci.com/bill/images/Dimpling%20the%20left%20HS%20skin001.
jpg
This should help explain how it works.
Bill R.
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy [mailto:rer51@lincsat.com]
Subject: dimpling
I am also a newbie. I have the hs to the point of dimpling and
riveting. I have looked at the dimpler riveter, and I am absolutely
perplexed on how to use it without damaging the other surface of the hs
skins. It appears that the stand would sit directly on the other
surface while dimpling the one side. I am a retired tool and die guy,
and this apparatus isn't logical to me. I looks like it would work on
the edges, but on the deep parts where the skin curves... HELP!!! Randy
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Randy and others,
One other thing, my work table.
I built it out of 2x4's with a 4x8 foot sheet of 3/4" particle board
rabbited into it so the edges of the particle board are protected by the
edge of the 2x4's. There are 2x4 "joists" 12 inch on center under the
particle board surface and it has six legs for stability. You can dance
on this thing and it won't move. Here's a picture:
http://www.repucci.com/bill/images/HS%20Spar%20
<http://www.repucci.com/bill/images/HS%20Spar%20&%20Ribs%20-%20Fitting%2
0and%20drilling014.jpg> &%20Ribs%20-%20Fitting%20and%20drilling014.jpg
The real beauty of it is the particle board surface, when match drilling
parts you can drill right into the surface and cleco your parts down.
When you completely trash the surface, the particle board will lift
right out and a replacement sheet will drop in, no screws or tools
required.
The other tip I would suggest is to build a painting table using chicken
wire, this will keep the paint from blowing back in your face or on the
parts. Here is a picture of my trim tab parts on the table waiting to
be primed:
http://www.repucci.com/bill/images/Trim%20tab%20and%20Eleveator%20traili
ng%20edge%20waiting%20to%20get%20primed001.jpg Since this picture was
taken, I've added a rack so I can suspend parts above it.
I sure hope all this helps.
Bill
RV-9
SN: 90737
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy [mailto:rer51@lincsat.com]
Subject: dimpling
I am also a newbie. I have the hs to the point of dimpling and
riveting. I have looked at the dimpler riveter, and I am absolutely
perplexed on how to use it without damaging the other surface of the hs
skins. It appears that the stand would sit directly on the other
surface while dimpling the one side. I am a retired tool and die guy,
and this apparatus isn't logical to me. I looks like it would work on
the edges, but on the deep parts where the skin curves... HELP!!! Randy
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| Subject: | Fw: priming wing ribs |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
> Greetings fellow builders,
> After aloding my wing ribs, I am about to prime them. The question I have
> is, should I rivet them onto the wing spar, and then prime the spar and
ribs
> together, or prime them beforehand?. The reason I am thinking thus is that
> by priming after fitting the ribs, I can fit the skins, drill out and
dimple
> the holes in the rib flanges and prime over the screw dimples in the wing
> spar flanges. Is there a problem with priming directly over the alodized
> spar?
> Thanks,
> Mick Muller
>
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| Subject: | Fw: priming wing ribs |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
OK,
I guess my question would be if you alodined the ribs and the spar is
anodized, why are you bothering priming??
Alodine and Anodize are both corrosion protectents by their very nature, so
IMHO priming over alodined/anodized parts is redundant at best.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis (Alodnied ribs, and bulkheads).
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MICK MULLER
Subject: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
--> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
> Greetings fellow builders,
> After aloding my wing ribs, I am about to prime them. The question I have
> is, should I rivet them onto the wing spar, and then prime the spar and
ribs
> together, or prime them beforehand?. The reason I am thinking thus is that
> by priming after fitting the ribs, I can fit the skins, drill out and
dimple
> the holes in the rib flanges and prime over the screw dimples in the wing
> spar flanges. Is there a problem with priming directly over the alodized
> spar?
> Thanks,
> Mick Muller
>
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| Subject: | Fw: priming wing ribs |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Mick,
I would do them off the spar so they are fully covered.
I am priming over alodined/anodized, I call it my belt, suspenders, and
duct tape approach to corrosion protection. Plus, I hope to put my RV-9
on floats sometime in the future so the extra protection should hurt a
bit.
Bill
RV-9
SN: 90737
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stein Bruch
Subject: RE: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
OK,
I guess my question would be if you alodined the ribs and the spar is
anodized, why are you bothering priming??
Alodine and Anodize are both corrosion protectents by their very nature,
so IMHO priming over alodined/anodized parts is redundant at best.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis (Alodnied ribs, and bulkheads).
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MICK MULLER
Subject: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
--> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
> Greetings fellow builders,
> After aloding my wing ribs, I am about to prime them. The question I
> have is, should I rivet them onto the wing spar, and then prime the
> spar and
ribs
> together, or prime them beforehand?. The reason I am thinking thus is
> that by priming after fitting the ribs, I can fit the skins, drill out
> and
dimple
> the holes in the rib flanges and prime over the screw dimples in the
> wing spar flanges. Is there a problem with priming directly over the
> alodized spar? Thanks,
> Mick Muller
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: priming wing ribs |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Randy" <rer51@lincsat.com>
Your help is invaluable. Thanks for the great tips. I will watch your
progress. Randy Russell Ontario, Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Subject: RE: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
>
> Mick,
>
> I would do them off the spar so they are fully covered.
>
> I am priming over alodined/anodized, I call it my belt, suspenders, and
> duct tape approach to corrosion protection. Plus, I hope to put my RV-9
> on floats sometime in the future so the extra protection should hurt a
> bit.
>
> Bill
> RV-9
> SN: 90737
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stein Bruch
> To: rv9-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
>
>
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> OK,
>
> I guess my question would be if you alodined the ribs and the spar is
> anodized, why are you bothering priming??
>
> Alodine and Anodize are both corrosion protectents by their very nature,
> so IMHO priming over alodined/anodized parts is redundant at best.
>
> Cheers,
> Stein Bruch
> RV6's, Minneapolis (Alodnied ribs, and bulkheads).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MICK MULLER
> To: rv9-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
>
>
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
>
>
> > Greetings fellow builders,
> > After aloding my wing ribs, I am about to prime them. The question I
> > have is, should I rivet them onto the wing spar, and then prime the
> > spar and
> ribs
> > together, or prime them beforehand?. The reason I am thinking thus is
> > that by priming after fitting the ribs, I can fit the skins, drill out
>
> > and
> dimple
> > the holes in the rib flanges and prime over the screw dimples in the
> > wing spar flanges. Is there a problem with priming directly over the
> > alodized spar? Thanks,
> > Mick Muller
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: priming wing ribs |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
Yep, couldn't agree more. I figure priming over alodining/anodising can't
hurt. I will still prime over them.
Mick Muller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy" <rer51@lincsat.com>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Randy" <rer51@lincsat.com>
>
> Your help is invaluable. Thanks for the great tips. I will watch your
> progress. Randy Russell Ontario, Canada
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
> To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
>
>
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
> >
> > Mick,
> >
> > I would do them off the spar so they are fully covered.
> >
> > I am priming over alodined/anodized, I call it my belt, suspenders, and
> > duct tape approach to corrosion protection. Plus, I hope to put my RV-9
> > on floats sometime in the future so the extra protection should hurt a
> > bit.
> >
> > Bill
> > RV-9
> > SN: 90737
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stein Bruch
> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
> >
> >
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
> >
> > OK,
> >
> > I guess my question would be if you alodined the ribs and the spar is
> > anodized, why are you bothering priming??
> >
> > Alodine and Anodize are both corrosion protectents by their very nature,
> > so IMHO priming over alodined/anodized parts is redundant at best.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Stein Bruch
> > RV6's, Minneapolis (Alodnied ribs, and bulkheads).
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MICK MULLER
> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV9-List: Fw: priming wing ribs
> >
> >
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
> >
> >
> > > Greetings fellow builders,
> > > After aloding my wing ribs, I am about to prime them. The question I
> > > have is, should I rivet them onto the wing spar, and then prime the
> > > spar and
> > ribs
> > > together, or prime them beforehand?. The reason I am thinking thus is
> > > that by priming after fitting the ribs, I can fit the skins, drill out
> >
> > > and
> > dimple
> > > the holes in the rib flanges and prime over the screw dimples in the
> > > wing spar flanges. Is there a problem with priming directly over the
> > > alodized spar? Thanks,
> > > Mick Muller
> > >
> >
> >
> > ==
> > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> >
> >
>
>
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