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1. 11:40 AM - Re: Nosewheel fairing / Tyre pressure (Steve Sampson)
2. 01:35 PM - Re: Nosewheel fairing / Tyre pressure (Larry PERRYMAN)
3. 02:57 PM - Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? (Gerry Filby)
4. 03:09 PM - Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? (Glenn Brasch)
5. 03:09 PM - Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? (Larry PERRYMAN)
6. 03:21 PM - Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
7. 05:40 PM - Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? (Gerry Filby)
8. 07:29 PM - Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? (DThomas773@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Nosewheel fairing / Tyre pressure |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Larry/Andy - thanks once again. Larry, being an impecunious Brit I think I
will go your route. I even have an idle bit of spring stainless on my
workbench right now. I take it that the door pushes in and then rotates
along the inside surface of the pant around the hole you used the light
source to locate. Neat idea, I like it.
Thanks, Steve
#90360
UK
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| Subject: | Nosewheel fairing / Tyre pressure |
03/16/2004 10:34:57 PM,
Serialize complete at 03/16/2004 10:34:57 PM
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry PERRYMAN" <larry.perryman@atofina.com>
Steve,
That is exactly how it works. It also makes finding an air nozzle that
will work to air up the tire a bit easier as you can have a larger hole to
access the stem and still be able to close it for when you are in flight.
Net add to your airplane tool kit - 1 Phillips screwdriver and 1
nutdriver.
Regards,
Larry Perryman
"Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
<SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Larry/Andy - thanks once again. Larry, being an impecunious Brit I think I
will go your route. I even have an idle bit of spring stainless on my
workbench right now. I take it that the door pushes in and then rotates
along the inside surface of the pant around the hole you used the light
source to locate. Neat idea, I like it.
Thanks, Steve
#90360
UK
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| Subject: | Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
The Rudder counterbalance skin overlaps the main skin and the
spar and where it does - 8 rivets total - AN460AD3-4 rivets are
called out. In my enthusiasm with that wicked Avery pneumatic
squeezer (which I just got yesterday) I riveted all around the
ribs and counterbalance skin, forgetting 6 of the rivets that
secure the skin to the counterbalance skin to the rear spar -
the inner ones ... if you're groaning with disgust at this
point, you can imagine how I felt as the adolescent nature of
my actions dawned on me.
So since the inside of the counterbalance skin is no longer
accessible I have two choices - blind rivet with MK-319-BS or
call up vans with a parts list for a new rudder. Can I get
away with the blind rivets ?
g
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Home (415) 239 4846
Cell (415) 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Glenn Brasch" <gbrasch@earthlink.net>
I am not sure if I am missing something, but why not just drill out the
one's you already did and start over? Glenn in Arizona -9A wings, fuselage
ordered.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com>
Subject: RV9-List: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ????
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
> The Rudder counterbalance skin overlaps the main skin and the
> spar and where it does - 8 rivets total - AN460AD3-4 rivets are
> called out. In my enthusiasm with that wicked Avery pneumatic
> squeezer (which I just got yesterday) I riveted all around the
> ribs and counterbalance skin, forgetting 6 of the rivets that
> secure the skin to the counterbalance skin to the rear spar -
> the inner ones ... if you're groaning with disgust at this
> point, you can imagine how I felt as the adolescent nature of
> my actions dawned on me.
>
> So since the inside of the counterbalance skin is no longer
> accessible I have two choices - blind rivet with MK-319-BS or
> call up vans with a parts list for a new rudder. Can I get
> away with the blind rivets ?
>
> g
>
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> RV-9 #90842
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> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Home (415) 239 4846
> Cell (415) 203 9177
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? |
03/17/2004 12:09:40 AM,
Serialize complete at 03/17/2004 12:09:40 AM
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Larry PERRYMAN" <larry.perryman@atofina.com>
Gerry,
The short answer is YES. The best answer is to call VANS Support and ask
them.
Regards,
Larry Perryman
Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
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Subject: RV9-List: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ????
Can I get
away with the blind rivets ?
g
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RV-9 #90842
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Home (415) 239 4846
Cell (415) 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
can you drill out the rivets and correct the problem?
it will be good practice when you make the same kind of mistake later,d:
)
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
> The Rudder counterbalance skin overlaps the main skin and the
> spar and where it does - 8 rivets total - AN460AD3-4 rivets are
> called out. In my enthusiasm with that wicked Avery pneumatic
> squeezer (which I just got yesterday) I riveted all around the
> ribs and counterbalance skin, forgetting 6 of the rivets that
> secure the skin to the counterbalance skin to the rear spar -
> the inner ones ... if you're groaning with disgust at this
> point, you can imagine how I felt as the adolescent nature of
> my actions dawned on me.
>
> So since the inside of the counterbalance skin is no longer
> accessible I have two choices - blind rivet with MK-319-BS or
> call up vans with a parts list for a new rudder. Can I get
> away with the blind rivets ?
>
> g
>
> --
> RV-9 #90842
> ==========================================================
> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Home (415) 239 4846
> Cell (415) 203 9177
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
My experience drilling out rivets so far is that its rarely
"clean" and if you can avoid it you're better off going that
way. Also there's two blind rivets between the tip rib and the
end of the spar which, if I heed the many warnings I've seen,
are very difficult to drill out. I'm not worried so much about
the cosmetics of it, more the strength.
I better call Vans and get the "official" line ... thanks all.
g
>
> --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
>
> can you drill out the rivets and correct the problem?
>
> it will be good practice when you make the same kind of mistake later,d:
> )
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> >
> >
> > The Rudder counterbalance skin overlaps the main skin and the
> > spar and where it does - 8 rivets total - AN460AD3-4 rivets are
> > called out. In my enthusiasm with that wicked Avery pneumatic
> > squeezer (which I just got yesterday) I riveted all around the
> > ribs and counterbalance skin, forgetting 6 of the rivets that
> > secure the skin to the counterbalance skin to the rear spar -
> > the inner ones ... if you're groaning with disgust at this
> > point, you can imagine how I felt as the adolescent nature of
> > my actions dawned on me.
> >
> > So since the inside of the counterbalance skin is no longer
> > accessible I have two choices - blind rivet with MK-319-BS or
> > call up vans with a parts list for a new rudder. Can I get
> > away with the blind rivets ?
> >
> > g
> >
> > --
> > RV-9 #90842
> > ==========================================================
> > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> > Home (415) 239 4846
> > Cell (415) 203 9177
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Home (415) 239 4846
Cell (415) 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
If you are drilling out #3 rivets and planning to replace them with pop
rivets, don't worry about drilling them out. You are drilling out a rivet that
went into a number 40 hole, and replacing it with a rivet that needs to be
drilled out to number 30, or 1/8 inch. So, if your drilling isn't perfect, it
won't
matter. You will be enlarging the hole anyway.
Dennis Thomas
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