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1. 02:52 AM - Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? (John Oliveira)
2. 08:19 AM - Subaru Engine Prices (Ray L)
3. 11:59 AM - Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? (Terry Hobert)
4. 12:33 PM - Re: Subaru Engine Prices (Gary Newsted)
5. 01:57 PM - Re: Subaru Engine Prices (Ken Moak)
6. 06:21 PM - Re: Subaru Engine Prices (Sargentclt@cs.com)
7. 07:09 PM - Re: Subaru Engine Prices (Gary Newsted)
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| Subject: | Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "John Oliveira" <oliveira@frontiernet.net>
Blind rivets are easy to drill out. they have a built in "guide"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ????
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
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> My experience drilling out rivets so far is that its rarely
> "clean" and if you can avoid it you're better off going that
> way. Also there's two blind rivets between the tip rib and the
> end of the spar which, if I heed the many warnings I've seen,
> are very difficult to drill out. I'm not worried so much about
> the cosmetics of it, more the strength.
>
> I better call Vans and get the "official" line ... thanks all.
>
> g
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> >
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
> >
> > can you drill out the rivets and correct the problem?
> >
> > it will be good practice when you make the same kind of mistake later,d:
> > )
> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > The Rudder counterbalance skin overlaps the main skin and the
> > > spar and where it does - 8 rivets total - AN460AD3-4 rivets are
> > > called out. In my enthusiasm with that wicked Avery pneumatic
> > > squeezer (which I just got yesterday) I riveted all around the
> > > ribs and counterbalance skin, forgetting 6 of the rivets that
> > > secure the skin to the counterbalance skin to the rear spar -
> > > the inner ones ... if you're groaning with disgust at this
> > > point, you can imagine how I felt as the adolescent nature of
> > > my actions dawned on me.
> > >
> > > So since the inside of the counterbalance skin is no longer
> > > accessible I have two choices - blind rivet with MK-319-BS or
> > > call up vans with a parts list for a new rudder. Can I get
> > > away with the blind rivets ?
> > >
> > > g
> > >
> > > --
> > > RV-9 #90842
> > > ==========================================================
> > > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> > > Home (415) 239 4846
> > > Cell (415) 203 9177
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> --
> RV-9 #90842
> ==========================================================
> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Home (415) 239 4846
> Cell (415) 203 9177
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>
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| Subject: | Subaru Engine Prices |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Ray L" <Justplane@comcast.net>
Hello Listeners,
When looking at data from October 2001, I noticed the 2.5I engine package
went for $13,000 and it included a lot of accessories. Now I see the price
is $22,000 for the 2.5 XT variable valve timing firewall package. Can
somebody explain the $9,000 difference?
Respectfully,
Ray Lackwitz
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| Subject: | Re: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ???? |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Terry Hobert" <terhobey@hotmail.com>
If worried about increasing the hole then use oops rivets. an4 stems with
an3 heads. They work fine. With so much pratice, I can drill out rivets
perfectly. I don't know if thats a good thing or not, but tells you that
you'll be drilling out alot down the road, believe me!
Terry 9A fuselage
>From: DThomas773@aol.com
>Reply-To: rv9-list@matronics.com
>To: rv9-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV9-List: Gnash ... I goofed ... MK-319-BS vs AD ????
>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:29:14 EST
>
>--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
>
>If you are drilling out #3 rivets and planning to replace them with pop
>rivets, don't worry about drilling them out. You are drilling out a rivet
>that
>went into a number 40 hole, and replacing it with a rivet that needs to be
>drilled out to number 30, or 1/8 inch. So, if your drilling isn't perfect,
>it won't
>matter. You will be enlarging the hole anyway.
>
>Dennis Thomas
>
>
http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru Engine Prices |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
Ray, wrong newsgroup. Try "subaruaircraft" on Yahoo.
The short answer is that these are brand new, 2004 engines with many
refinements.
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| Subject: | Subaru Engine Prices |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Ken Moak" <airplanestuff@sbcglobal.net>
Gary
Thanks I was wondering that too. Been to lazy to check
Ken
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Newsted
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Subaru Engine Prices
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
Ray, wrong newsgroup. Try "subaruaircraft" on Yahoo.
The short answer is that these are brand new, 2004 engines with many
refinements.
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru Engine Prices |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Sargentclt@cs.com
It seems as though simple economics have trespassed into the art of
"New Engine Technology". I have two arguments. One, if you are the sort of
person to build an airplane, why not venture into building an engine ie. the
Titan kit for $14500 add a propeller (fixed) for $2000 and your done. Or call
Mattituck Engines and buy an already built one for $18000. Either way you save
money over the Subaru. And lets not forget that every mechanic knows how to
turn a wrench on the Lycoming. No offense to those who like the Subaru but you
are the mechanic in this choice like it or not. I've heard all the discussion
for the Soob and both it and the Lycoming are fine choices but not when price
is a factor.
Hey just my .02 worth.
Tad Sargent RV7A
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru Engine Prices |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
It could just be that we love our Subaru's enough to pay top dollar for
them.
I prefer to save money on fuel rather than on engine selection. Anyone
thinking
these powerplants should be less valuable than a Lyco, hasn't looked very
closely.
...my two cents...
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