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1. 12:05 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
2. 02:44 AM - Re: Wings (Dale Larsen)
3. 08:15 AM - Re: Panel Removal (Leland)
4. 10:46 AM - Re: Panel Removal (Albert Gardner)
5. 01:47 PM - Re: Re: Panel Removal ()
6. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Panel Removal (Bill Repucci)
7. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: Panel Removal (Albert Gardner)
8. 08:36 PM - Re: Panel Removal (DThomas773@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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--> RV9-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Lister,
Please read over the RV9-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV9-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV9-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RV9-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV9-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV9-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Dale Larsen" <slickrock@been-there.com>
Todd,
You're right, the early manuals did not include wing installation
instructions. I searched this archive, and found the missing instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=1251239?KEYS=wing_&_install_&_fax?LISTNAME=RV9?HITNUMBER=5?SERIAL=13545111103?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
Thanks!
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bartrim, Todd" <Steve.Bartrim@canfor.com>
Subject: RE: RV9-List: Wings
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bartrim, Todd" <Steve.Bartrim@canfor.com>
>
> Hi Dale;
> If you have one of the early wing manuals, there was a few pages
missing which detail this step. I found this as well and since it was a
Saturday I couldn't phone Vans, so I asked an identical question and some
kind soul on the list immediately sent me a .PDF file with the missing
pages. These pages have some fairly important info, so I wouldn't advise
that you just "wing it" :-). I'm at work right now and don't have the info,
but a quick call to Vans or possibly look for it on their web site should
get it for you.
>
> S. Todd Bartrim
> Turbo 13B
> RX-9endurance
> C-FSTB
> http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
>
> "Imagination is more important than knowledge"
> -Albert Einstein
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Evenson [SMTP:revenson@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:03 PM
> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV9-List: Wings
> >
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net>
> >
> > Look again, I think you will find some written advice on mounting the
wings.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dale Larsen" <slickrock@been-there.com>
> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV9-List: Wings
> >
> >
> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Dale Larsen"
<slickrock@been-there.com>
> > >
> > > Now that I am ready to mount the wings, I looked through the
instruction
> > > manual to find out just how to proceed. No luck. There are no
> > instructions
> > > to mount the wings. Just some cryptic measurements on one of the
> > drawings.
> > > There are some instructions on Van's site, but these are generic.
> > >
> > > Anyone got advice on the easisest way to proceed?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Removal |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Leland <Federigo@pacbell.net>
Tod, thank you for your input, both online and off. I have already
punched, painted and begun wiring my panel and cannot easily start over
with a segmented panel. I am already regretting my action.
Leland in Pleasanton
Adding the EGT's & CHT's to the Grand Rapids EIS
(ordered a Dynon D10A on Friday with a planned June delivery)
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Removal |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <spudnut@worldnet.att.net>
Another 9A builder (still in progress) and I were looking at our panels
thinking about this issue. I have the map box in mine and it is quite
deep-extends through the sub-panel so that complicates removal a lot. Also,
my radio trays are riveted to the panel and were intended to stay that way
while his are bolted and meant to stay with the plane-clearly a better plan.
Both of us made extensive use of multipin connectors so that almost all
panel wires go through these connectors on the subpanel to make removal
easier. If I ever do it again, I think all wires will go through connectors
in this way and the map box-if I put one in-will bolt to the panel. The last
big impediment to removal is the corners of the panel. We could have made
the corners part of the structure and I think a much narrower panel with no
structures like radio trays or map boxes would come right out.
Albert Gardner
RV-9A 872RV
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Removal |
--> RV9-List message posted by: <fablef@bellsouth.net>
The one drawback about bolting the mapbox to the sub-panel bulkhead is that you
will have to use screws to attach the mapbox flanges to the panel. Not a problem
at all, but the flush look of rivets makes for a better finish.
Fabian
>
> From: "Albert Gardner" <spudnut@worldnet.att.net>
> Date: 2004/05/02 Sun PM 01:46:29 EDT
> To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV9-List: Panel Removal
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Removal |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Why not rivet flanges with p-nuts to the panel and then use screws to
attach the map box to these flanges from the inside. Then you could use
a stubby screwdriver to remove the screws, thus allowing the panel to
come out while leaving the map box behind.
Just my $.02 worth.
Bill R.
Huntersville, NC
RV-9
SN: 90737
Just finished my 2nd fuel tank today! 554 hours and counting.
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
fablef@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Re: RV9-List: Panel Removal
--> RV9-List message posted by: <fablef@bellsouth.net>
The one drawback about bolting the mapbox to the sub-panel bulkhead is
that you will have to use screws to attach the mapbox flanges to the
panel. Not a problem at all, but the flush look of rivets makes for a
better finish.
Fabian
>
> From: "Albert Gardner" <spudnut@worldnet.att.net>
> Date: 2004/05/02 Sun PM 01:46:29 EDT
> To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV9-List: Panel Removal
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Removal |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <spudnut@worldnet.att.net>
In my mind the biggest drawback to making the mapbox removable from the
panel is having to find a new type of hinge. The door could also be
removable from the hinge but currently Vans use a piano hinge riveted to
both the door and the mapbox. The mapbox is handy and deep enough for
sectionals but too deep for other uses unless you want to reach waaay in.
BTW, consider taking the corners off of the panel that surounds the fuel
selector valve (F-983C). I did and both my leg and my passengers leg thank
me after every flight.
Albert Gardner
RV-9A 872RV
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Removal |
--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
Hi Guys,
You know what?
A better place for a map box, than the instrument panel, is between the seats
just forward of the flap drive motor housing.
Dennis Thomas
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