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1. 10:12 AM - Re: aileron spar countersink (Paul Eastham)
2. 11:21 AM - Re: aileron spar countersink (Paul Pflimlin)
3. 07:13 PM - F6111: baggage skin stiffener (Wayne Williams)
4. 07:44 PM - Re: F6111: baggage skin stiffener (Richard E. Tasker)
5. 10:07 PM - Fairings (Bryan Carr)
6. 10:23 PM - Re: Fairings (Andy Karmy)
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| Subject: | Re: aileron spar countersink |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
Hi group,
Reply from Van's was that I should only be countersinking to regular
depth, not dimple depth. Obviously... :| Gus claims that the dimple
will conform as it is riveted. Ok, so why have I been spending so much
time with dimple gauges then? :)
I pestered them about adding some warning to the manual here, just in
case they ever revise it..
I got a number of replies about csinking through the main skin+spar,
and if you read the part of the manual where they talk about
countersinking technique this does indeed seem like the right thing to
do.
Paul
On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 09:24:39AM -0400, Moxie wrote:
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Moxie" <rv9a@wideopenwest.com>
>
> Hello Paul,
>
> I suggest countersinking through the skin into the aileron then the nose
> skin will cover. If you have
> Countersunk the spar and came up with the enlarged hole, then use a strip of
> aluminum inside of the spar.
> I believe you could rivet the over enlarged holes and be okay, but I am not
> going that route. I over enlarge the left
> Aileron and could not get the clecos to hold, so I placed scrap pieces under
> every cleco to form a clamp. My kit
> Came with extra 1/2 inch strips the length of my aileron spar.
>
> The counter sinking of the sink/spar combo is similar to the tank skin to
> rear baffle.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Phil Johnston
>
>
> Hi all,
> Has anyone asked Van's yet about their crazy instructions for
> countersinking the aileron spar? They say to countersink it for skin
> dimples, since we don't want to warp that .040 spar. Problem is,
> .040 is too thin to countersink for a dimple. Enlarges the hole.
>
> Paul
> http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv
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>
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| Subject: | Re: aileron spar countersink |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Paul Pflimlin" <pablo@phonewave.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moxie" <rv9a@wideopenwest.com>
Subject: RE: RV9-List: aileron spar countersink
Hello namesake(Tocajo)
My suggestion: I dimpled the spar lightly, leaving some meat on the
backside, then countersunk removing a small amount of material; worked
great!
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Moxie" <rv9a@wideopenwest.com>
>
> Hello Paul,
>
> I suggest countersinking through the skin into the aileron then the nose
> skin will cover. If you have
> Countersunk the spar and came up with the enlarged hole, then use a strip
of
> aluminum inside of the spar.
> I believe you could rivet the over enlarged holes and be okay, but I am
not
> going that route. I over enlarge the left
> Aileron and could not get the clecos to hold, so I placed scrap pieces
under
> every cleco to form a clamp. My kit
> Came with extra 1/2 inch strips the length of my aileron spar.
>
> The counter sinking of the sink/spar combo is similar to the tank skin to
> rear baffle.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Phil Johnston
>
>
> Hi all,
> Has anyone asked Van's yet about their crazy instructions for
> countersinking the aileron spar? They say to countersink it for skin
> dimples, since we don't want to warp that .040 spar. Problem is,
> .040 is too thin to countersink for a dimple. Enlarges the hole.
>
> Paul
> http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv
>
>
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| Subject: | F6111: baggage skin stiffener |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
What's up with the F6111? Mine don't even come close to fitting the
pre-punched holes in the top skin that covers part of the baggage
compartment-- IF that's where it goes; I don't even see this part on the
plans! Interestingly, it does fit the curve of this top skin front edge
pretty close.
Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks!
Wayne Williams
RV-9A (slider)
Wings and fuse
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| Subject: | Re: F6111: baggage skin stiffener |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
Check the archives. This was covered in detail a few months ago.
Basically you have to trim a little and bend a little and it fits just
fine along the prepunched holes.
Dick Tasker
Wayne Williams wrote:
>--> RV9-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
>
>What's up with the F6111? Mine don't even come close to fitting the
>pre-punched holes in the top skin that covers part of the baggage
>compartment-- IF that's where it goes; I don't even see this part on the
>plans! Interestingly, it does fit the curve of this top skin front edge
>pretty close.
>Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Wayne Williams
>RV-9A (slider)
>Wings and fuse
>
>
>
>
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bryan Carr" <b.m.carr@telus.net>
Has anyone used the fairings from Fairings Etc. on their 9A?
I just mounted the wheel pants and hate fiberglass work.
Bryan Carr
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--> RV9-List message posted by: Andy Karmy <andy@karmy.com>
Yep, got the top intersection fairings from Bob at Fairings Etc. I did
a bit of bending with a heat gun to get them to fit like I wanted, fit
nice and much easier than doing layups upside down!
You can see pictures of them here:
http://www.karmy.com/rv9a/pictures/fuselage/Fairings/index.htm
- Andy
On May 10, 2004, at 10:03 PM, Bryan Carr wrote:
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bryan Carr" <b.m.carr@telus.net>
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> Has anyone used the fairings from Fairings Etc. on their 9A?
> I just mounted the wheel pants and hate fiberglass work.
> Bryan Carr
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