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1. 06:19 AM - Re: Still on List (Andy Karmy)
2. 07:50 AM - Fw: [RV-9A] Westport WA RV-9A Accident (Andy Karmy)
3. 10:55 AM - Re: 9A gear weldment (Paul Eastham)
4. 11:35 AM - Re: 9A gear weldment (Dean)
5. 07:29 PM - A little help please (Bill Repucci)
6. 07:56 PM - Re: A little help please (Bob Kelly)
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| Subject: | Re: Still on List |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Andy Karmy <andy@karmy.com>
No, we are here, It's just quiet now... I was just sitting here
thinking about the RV9 accident at Westport, and how that must really
suck!
You would think that 28 gallons would get you from Eugene to Westport,
however in this case it didn't (or wasn't there in the first place).
This is the second 9A that we have lost due to fuel management, let's
all be careful out there!
- Andy Karmy
RV9A - 250hrsTT!
andy@karmy.com
On Aug 17, 2004, at 11:49 AM, Terry Hobert wrote:
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Terry Hobert" <terhobey@hotmail.com>
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> I haven't recieved any RV9 mail in days. Just quiet or did I get
> disconnected?
>
> Terry Hobert RV9A Fuselage/finish kit
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| Subject: | Fwd: [RV-9A] Westport WA RV-9A Accident |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Andy Karmy <andy@karmy.com>
Just realized that my last post was referring to a post on the Yahoo
list... Here it is for those that didn't see it.
- Andy Karmy
andy@karmy.com
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Pilot" <dhugunin@comcast.net>
> Date: August 17, 2004 7:50:05 AM PDT
> To: <RV-9A@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [RV-9A] Westport WA RV-9A Accident
> Reply-To: RV-9A@yahoogroups.com
>
> NTSB Identification: SEA04LA157
> 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
> Accident occurred Saturday, August 07, 2004 in Westport, WA
> Aircraft: Headrick Vans RV9A, registration: N3086J
> Injuries: 1 Serious, 1 Minor.
>
> This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain
> errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final
> report has been completed.
>
> On August 7, 2004, about 1500 Pacific daylight time, an experimental
> Headrick Vans RV9A, N3086J, registered to and operated by the pilot as
> a 14 CFR Part 91 personal flight, experienced a loss of engine power
> while on downwind for landing at the Westport Airport, Westport,
> Washington. During the forced landing, the aircraft collided with
> trees and the terrain short of runway 30. Visual meteorological
> conditions prevailed at the time and no flight plan was filed. The
> aircraft was substantially damaged. The private pilot was seriously
> injured and the passenger received minor injuries. The aircraft
> departed from Eugene, Oregon, about one hour and thirty minutes prior
> to the accident.
>
> During a telephone interview, the pilot reported that he departed from
> Eugene with about 28 gallons of fuel. About 30 miles out from landing,
> the pilot noted that the fuel gage for the right tank (tank selected)
> was indicating about 2.5 gallons of fuel. When the flight reached the
> airport, the pilot flew a low downwind to check out the sand bar north
> of the airport as he and his passenger were planning on fishing in
> that area. The pilot then turned back to the airport and set-up for a
> landing on runway 30. The pilot reported that while on downwind, the
> engine started running rough, the rpm decreased, and the engine
> subsequently quit. The pilot initiated a forced landing just short of
> the runway. During the descent, the aircraft collided with trees and
> the ground.
>
> A Federal Aviation Administration Inspector from the Seattle,
> Washington, Flight Standards District Office responded to the accident
> site. The inspector reported that the right fuel tank was empty of
> fuel, while the left fuel tank still contained some fuel. The pilot
> reported that he had been operating off of the right fuel tank at the
> time of the loss of power.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wfdeane
> To: RV-9A@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:43 AM
> Subject: [RV-9A] Westport WA RV-9A Accident
>
>
> There was a landing accident with one of our 9A group on the west
> coast Saturday, August 7, 2004. A little blurb on the TV news (via
> internet)had very little information about the seriousness of the
> accident. Similarly the accident report on the NTSB site was devoid
> of much hard info. Anybody out in WA and OR know the extent of
> damage, cause and condition of occupants?
>
> Bill Deane
> 70 Hours on 90346
>
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| Subject: | Re: 9A gear weldment |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
The response from Van's is that the weldment should be ground down to
avoid the rivet. This is not in the plans or manual but will apply to
all 9As, so make a note of it. Do it before you even attempt to
place the weldment since it is hard to remove even without the dozens
of hard-to-reach bolts I've already torqued on... :(
Paul
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 10:06:57AM -0700, Paul Eastham wrote:
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
>
> Hi all,
> Has anyone noticed an interference problem on the main gear weldments?
> The bottom-most rivet on the side skins through the center section
> seems to intersect with the weldment flange that takes the 5 bolts.
> Here's a picture:
> http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv/images/20040813_IMG_1219.JPG
>
> Seems like the safest thing to do is remove it and relieve the
> weldment -- wish I hadn't bolted it in yet! Those bolts at the bottom
> sure are hard to work on, and the seat pan platnuts make removal very
> difficult.
>
> If you haven't gotten this far yet I'd highly recommend
> figuring this out before installation...I'll post Van's response
> as well when they get back to me.
>
> Paul
> http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 9A gear weldment |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
Paul
This is probably too late to help you now, but I believe this tip came from
another builder some time ago. I have noted on both side skins to flush this
particular rivet from the inside to preclude the gear weldment interference
that you have experienced. Other 9A builders might want to take note of
this to avoid the problem. This may also apply to 7A builders as well.
Dean Van Winkle
RV-9A Fuselage/Finish
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Eastham" <eastham@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: RV9-List: 9A gear weldment
> --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
>
> The response from Van's is that the weldment should be ground down to
> avoid the rivet. This is not in the plans or manual but will apply to
> all 9As, so make a note of it. Do it before you even attempt to
> place the weldment since it is hard to remove even without the dozens
> of hard-to-reach bolts I've already torqued on... :(
>
> Paul
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 10:06:57AM -0700, Paul Eastham wrote:
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: Paul Eastham <eastham@netapp.com>
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Has anyone noticed an interference problem on the main gear weldments?
> > The bottom-most rivet on the side skins through the center section
> > seems to intersect with the weldment flange that takes the 5 bolts.
> > Here's a picture:
> > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv/images/20040813_IMG_1219.JPG
> >
> > Seems like the safest thing to do is remove it and relieve the
> > weldment -- wish I hadn't bolted it in yet! Those bolts at the bottom
> > sure are hard to work on, and the seat pan platnuts make removal very
> > difficult.
> >
> > If you haven't gotten this far yet I'd highly recommend
> > figuring this out before installation...I'll post Van's response
> > as well when they get back to me.
> >
> > Paul
> > http://hmb.dyndns.org/~eastham/rv
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | A little help please |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Now that I have ordered the fuselage kit for my -9, I am starting to
dream about the instrument panel and electrical system.
Please take a look at my panel layout and let me know what you think.
(I would like to hear positive and negative comments.) Remember, this
is going to be a simple VFR aircraft, thus the simple layout and lack of
fancy equipment, like auto-pilot, VOR, etc.
Note the switch placement, I figure I'll be using them less than I the
radio, intercom, and transponder, thus the positioning of them. Plus, I
won't have to switch (no pun intended) hands to reach them.
You can find the layout on my web page,
http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html.
Thanks for your comments, good and bad.
Bill R.
RV-9
SN: 90737
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| Subject: | Re: A little help please |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Bob Kelly <mmpi@missionmedia.org>
Bill,
Obviously, you subscribe to the "Less is More" newsgroup! I like your
layout for what you are doing. I would consider adding an airspeed
indicator as a backup (not that a Dynon will ever fail) and I will say I
really liked what I saw and heard in the XCOM 760 at Oshkosh. It would
replace the com unit and intercom, simplifying wiring a bit and costing
perhaps a little less. See www.xcom760.com for more (I plan on being a
customer, not associated with them.)
I think your switch placement is right on.
Bob Kelly, 90854, fuselage (okay, I just got it out of the boxes)
On 08/19/04, Bill Repucci wrote:
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
>
> Now that I have ordered the fuselage kit for my -9, I am starting to
> dream about the instrument panel and electrical system.
>
> Please take a look at my panel layout and let me know what you think.
> (I would like to hear positive and negative comments.) Remember, this
> is going to be a simple VFR aircraft, thus the simple layout and lack of
> fancy equipment, like auto-pilot, VOR, etc.
>
> Note the switch placement, I figure I'll be using them less than I the
> radio, intercom, and transponder, thus the positioning of them. Plus, I
> won't have to switch (no pun intended) hands to reach them.
>
> You can find the layout on my web page,
> http://www.repucci.com/bill/instruments.html.
>
> Thanks for your comments, good and bad.
>
> Bill R.
> RV-9
> SN: 90737
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